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What will a free 100k teach us and Zos? (daily rewards)
generalmyrick
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What will a free 100k teach us and Zos?
I was curious! For me, if i had access to the data, it would give me an idea of what a good gold sink price for crates would be. so that's one prediction i have! crown crates will be coming soon to buy with gold AND they will not be de-conaable for the gems that give the apex awards.
What do yall think?
Edited by generalmyrick on September 5, 2018 2:08PM I was curious! For me, if i had access to the data, it would give me an idea of what a good gold sink price for crates would be. so that's one prediction i have! crown crates will be coming soon to buy with gold AND they will not be de-conaable for the gems that give the apex awards.
What do yall think?
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Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
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Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"
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Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.
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DeadlyRecluse✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭generalmyrick wrote: »What will a free 100k teach us and Zos?
I was curious! For me, if i had access to the data, it would give me an idea of what a good gold sink price for crates would be. so that's one prediction i have! crown crates will be coming soon to buy with gold AND they will not be de-conaable for the gems that give the apex awards.
What do yall think?
I don't see how giving out free gold will inform any kind of future decision to make crates gold-purchasable.
And I REALLY don't see any kind of change to the crate model that would ever make them gold-purchasable.Thrice Empress, Forever Scrub33 -
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✭I think the only thing zos will be learning is how many dead accounts they can get to log in for twenty eight days to get the reward.37 -
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✭if you could give demand a quantity?
if you could convert between currencies?
if??? ;-)"The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:
Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"
Insight to Agree to Awesome Ratio = 1:6.04:2.76 as of 1/25/2019
Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.0 -
Grayfax✭✭✭I think it would be interesting to see the percentage of players that normally complete the monthly daily logins versus the 100K. To a lot of people on the forums, this is apparently chump change. To a lot of us new players it is a big deal. But will people actually login every day when they haven't been for loot crates? I pretty much do anyway, I'm just hoping life doesn't interfere for more than a couple of days this month (or that my wife hogs the game past the daily cutover time).
Mostly, I would be interested in the stats... and how it breaks out versus PC / Xbox / PS4 and if there is any difference in region. I'll never see that data, but it would be interesting.4 -
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✭✭✭✭generalmyrick wrote: »if you could give demand a quantity?
if you could convert between currencies?
if??? ;-)
What part of giving free money gives them any indication of that, though?
"Oh, a bunch of people claimed free gold! Looks like we should sell crates for gold!"
See how that makes...no sense? The two statements are unrelated. There's nothing there testing a currency exchange, or a demand for gold-purchased crates. They'll learn that...some people have more gold now. And maybe how strong of an incentive to log in 100k gold is. That's it.
If there was a reward that let people CHOOSE between gold and crates, or a reward that gave you a limited opportunity to buy crates with gold, that would be kinda relevant. But free gold has nothing to do with selling crates for gold. At all.Thrice Empress, Forever Scrub7 -
yiasemi✭✭✭✭I started a NA account a month ago and I'd love the cash. I'm already saving to buy my second house, fancying one of the other Reapers march houses this time away from Rawl'kha, this one is just burned out walker.0 -
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✭100k gold only caters to the casual gamer not their concrete long term gamer. so it really shows who they truly care about.2 -
Hostee✭✭✭You new players got it sooooo easy! I had to suck golf balls through a garden hose for my first 100k! Now that’s an addiction!7
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I don't think its there to teach us anything .. I just think it's part of the monthly, daily rewards program ..
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✭✭✭✭✭Given so little wiggle room was provided this month, it is likely many (if not most) players won't cash in on the gold. On xbox this week, we already had some down time due to issues with xbox live. That by itself has probably destroyed one of the two days many xbox players can afford to miss. If we have more down time like that, we can all kiss that 100k goodbye entirely. It makes me question why they made the login requirement so stiff this time around.4 -
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Well I mean if you don't want yours... @Turelus on PC EU.DuskMarine wrote: »100k gold only caters to the casual gamer not their concrete long term gamer. so it really shows who they truly care about.
@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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jaschacasadiob16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭I think the only thing zos will be learning is how many dead accounts they can get to log in for twenty eight days to get the reward.
Would you log in once a day for a month only to get 100.000 gold? Kinda sad."Yesterday while searching a barrel in vVoM I found a lemon. Best drop of the whole run."
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✭DeadlyRecluse wrote: »generalmyrick wrote: »if you could give demand a quantity?
if you could convert between currencies?
if??? ;-)
What part of giving free money gives them any indication of that, though?
"Oh, a bunch of people claimed free gold! Looks like we should sell crates for gold!"
See how that makes...no sense? The two statements are unrelated. There's nothing there testing a currency exchange, or a demand for gold-purchased crates. They'll learn that...some people have more gold now. And maybe how strong of an incentive to log in 100k gold is. That's it.
If there was a reward that let people CHOOSE between gold and crates, or a reward that gave you a limited opportunity to buy crates with gold, that would be kinda relevant. But free gold has nothing to do with selling crates for gold. At all.
mmm...
well, sorry, my intention wasn't to be contentious.
if log-ins are greater by 3x for 100k than they are for 5 free crates that does hint at, at least for me, that, 100k is 3x more valuable than 5 crates...setting the price of a single crate to be roughly 6666 gold. THESE ARE JUST EXAMPLE NUMBERS."The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:
Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"
Insight to Agree to Awesome Ratio = 1:6.04:2.76 as of 1/25/2019
Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.0 -
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✭✭✭✭100k is a big deal for new players. I'd prefer the crates any day, but I'm sure there's a lot of newbies that can't wait to be 100k richer7 -
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Well I mean if you don't want yours... @Turelus on PC EU.DuskMarine wrote: »100k gold only caters to the casual gamer not their concrete long term gamer. so it really shows who they truly care about.
oh im still taking it but its still only catering really to the newbie casuals who never have money0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭DuskMarine wrote: »
Well I mean if you don't want yours... @Turelus on PC EU.DuskMarine wrote: »100k gold only caters to the casual gamer not their concrete long term gamer. so it really shows who they truly care about.
oh im still taking it but its still only catering really to the newbie casuals who never have money
How do you figure? Many players who are neither newbies nor casuals don't consider 100k to be chump change and greatly appreciate the gesture.0 -
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✭DuskMarine wrote: »
Well I mean if you don't want yours... @Turelus on PC EU.DuskMarine wrote: »100k gold only caters to the casual gamer not their concrete long term gamer. so it really shows who they truly care about.
oh im still taking it but its still only catering really to the newbie casuals who never have money
How do you figure? Many players who are neither newbies nor casuals don't consider 100k to be chump change and greatly appreciate the gesture.
to anyone in a trading guild 100k is the equivilent to a penny0 -
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100k is still an item to legendary quality. It's not something to scoff at as a free gift.DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »
Well I mean if you don't want yours... Turelus on PC EU.DuskMarine wrote: »100k gold only caters to the casual gamer not their concrete long term gamer. so it really shows who they truly care about.
oh im still taking it but its still only catering really to the newbie casuals who never have money
How do you figure? Many players who are neither newbies nor casuals don't consider 100k to be chump change and greatly appreciate the gesture.
to anyone in a trading guild 100k is the equivilent to a penny
Would you rather we just get more 1.5k additions?
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100k is still an item to legendary quality. It's not something to scoff at as a free gift.DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »
Well I mean if you don't want yours... Turelus on PC EU.DuskMarine wrote: »100k gold only caters to the casual gamer not their concrete long term gamer. so it really shows who they truly care about.
oh im still taking it but its still only catering really to the newbie casuals who never have money
How do you figure? Many players who are neither newbies nor casuals don't consider 100k to be chump change and greatly appreciate the gesture.
to anyone in a trading guild 100k is the equivilent to a penny
Would you rather we just get more 1.5k additions?
id rather we get pets >_>0 -
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✭✭✭✭generalmyrick wrote: »DeadlyRecluse wrote: »generalmyrick wrote: »if you could give demand a quantity?
if you could convert between currencies?
if??? ;-)
What part of giving free money gives them any indication of that, though?
"Oh, a bunch of people claimed free gold! Looks like we should sell crates for gold!"
See how that makes...no sense? The two statements are unrelated. There's nothing there testing a currency exchange, or a demand for gold-purchased crates. They'll learn that...some people have more gold now. And maybe how strong of an incentive to log in 100k gold is. That's it.
If there was a reward that let people CHOOSE between gold and crates, or a reward that gave you a limited opportunity to buy crates with gold, that would be kinda relevant. But free gold has nothing to do with selling crates for gold. At all.
mmm...
well, sorry, my intention wasn't to be contentious.
if log-ins are greater by 3x for 100k than they are for 5 free crates that does hint at, at least for me, that, 100k is 3x more valuable than 5 crates...setting the price of a single crate to be roughly 6666 gold. THESE ARE JUST EXAMPLE NUMBERS.
I don' think we're being contentious! Just chatting about something that we don't exactly agree on. That's okay in my book.
That's actually an interesting theory--I don't entirely buy it, as I think there would be faster, more direct ways to get that data (pilot a program where everyone can buy up to 5 crates for 20k each--do people bite? Or offer a choice of gold or crate, etc. etc.). But I get what you're saying.
I'd think they'd want to parallel their "test" a little better if you were right about their intention. Previously we only had to log on like 20 times to get the 5 crate bundle, then an extra crate each day past that for like 5 days, right? Now you have to do all 28 to get the 100k. Just doesn't seem like they are trying to compare the results of each, or they'd just have put the big crate reward on the last day last month.Thrice Empress, Forever Scrub0 -
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✭✭✭DuskMarine wrote: »
100k is still an item to legendary quality. It's not something to scoff at as a free gift.DuskMarine wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »
Well I mean if you don't want yours... Turelus on PC EU.DuskMarine wrote: »100k gold only caters to the casual gamer not their concrete long term gamer. so it really shows who they truly care about.
oh im still taking it but its still only catering really to the newbie casuals who never have money
How do you figure? Many players who are neither newbies nor casuals don't consider 100k to be chump change and greatly appreciate the gesture.
to anyone in a trading guild 100k is the equivilent to a penny
Would you rather we just get more 1.5k additions?
id rather we get pets >_>
From a gaming pov and applying your logic, pets are useless. They add zero value to gameplay. 100k allows you to gold 1 or 2 pieces of gear depending which type of gear you're improving.5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭DuskMarine wrote: »to anyone in a trading guild 100k is the equivilent to a penny
Also not true. Being in a trading guild doesn't mean someone is making gold hand over first, or that they fail to recognize the value of 100k gold. Remember, your experiences are not that of all players. Many players, trading guild or no, are not as good at making gold as you are.5 -
Kilcosu✭✭✭I already missed days enough to not get the 100k.
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