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Bullies in the DUNGEONS
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starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Sadly there is little ZOS can do about people being jerks if they're not breaking any rules.
They could try to overhaul how the group finder system works but at the end of the day if players take it upon themselves to police groups to their standards ZOS can't do much to stop them.
Best advice I can give is try and find an active and friendly guild and make groups for dungeons via that, even if you just get one more person from your guild with you it makes vote kicks harder to achieve.
I was under the impression that abusing the kick function and kicking people for no reason - in short using it as a method for trolling others - was against the rules.
But does ZOS have a way to actually see if someone is "abusing" the kick function? I would imagine it would probably be difficult to prove you were kicked unjustly (unless you record/screenshot every pug run).
I would imagine they could investigate the chat and/or combat information of the situation to figure it out.
Some incidents might be difficult to conclude from. Others should be obvious though.
Perhaps, but I can't imagine they would invest any more than a cursory glance.
As I added in my last post: if you have the same three people talking crap and kicking everyone who joins their group a cursory glance is probably all it would take.
I will refer back to my post saying that if you record/SS your pug runs you may having a better leg to stand on, but that's assuming there was a conversation to begin with. Most will simply initiate a kick and you'll find yourself looking at a load screen. True trolls don't always engage their target in a verbal exchange. Sometimes the simple process of causing an inconvenience is more than enough. It's those "drive by" kicks that are harder to prove malicious intent.
That's true. But I'm not talking about "drive by" kicks.
I"m referring to bully groups where you have 3 less than nice individuals who know each other and who group up with the explicit purpose of grieving what ever player is unlucky enough to be matched with them.
That should be easy enough to recognize with minimum effort on their part. The random group of _____ who just likes to kick people for stupid reasons is going to be a lot harder to deal with. So if that is your point, I won't dispute it.
Wait, what? I've never seen this before, and I don't know how many dungeons I've queued into. I have accidentally queued back into the same group before. One of them was running a Frost Staff and S&B as DPS... so, not happiness. But, otherwise, what?
Is this some weird thing that only happens to DPS?1 -
Jeremy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »Sadly there is little ZOS can do about people being jerks if they're not breaking any rules.
They could try to overhaul how the group finder system works but at the end of the day if players take it upon themselves to police groups to their standards ZOS can't do much to stop them.
Best advice I can give is try and find an active and friendly guild and make groups for dungeons via that, even if you just get one more person from your guild with you it makes vote kicks harder to achieve.
I was under the impression that abusing the kick function and kicking people for no reason - in short using it as a method for trolling others - was against the rules.
But does ZOS have a way to actually see if someone is "abusing" the kick function? I would imagine it would probably be difficult to prove you were kicked unjustly (unless you record/screenshot every pug run).
I would imagine they could investigate the chat and/or combat information of the situation to figure it out.
Some incidents might be difficult to conclude from. Others should be obvious though.
Perhaps, but I can't imagine they would invest any more than a cursory glance.
As I added in my last post: if you have the same three people talking crap and kicking everyone who joins their group a cursory glance is probably all it would take.
I will refer back to my post saying that if you record/SS your pug runs you may having a better leg to stand on, but that's assuming there was a conversation to begin with. Most will simply initiate a kick and you'll find yourself looking at a load screen. True trolls don't always engage their target in a verbal exchange. Sometimes the simple process of causing an inconvenience is more than enough. It's those "drive by" kicks that are harder to prove malicious intent.
That's true. But I'm not talking about "drive by" kicks.
I"m referring to bully groups where you have 3 less than nice individuals who know each other and who group up with the explicit purpose of grieving what ever player is unlucky enough to be matched with them.
That should be easy enough to recognize with minimum effort on their part. The random group of _____ who just likes to kick people for stupid reasons is going to be a lot harder to deal with. So if that is your point, I won't dispute it.
Wait, what? I've never seen this before, and I don't know how many dungeons I've queued into. I have accidentally queued back into the same group before. One of them was running a Frost Staff and S&B as DPS... so, not happiness. But, otherwise, what?
Is this some weird thing that only happens to DPS?
It's rare for me but I've seen it a few times. One group in particular I had to deal with still comes to mind. So be glad you have never had the misfortune of coming across one. Because they are very irritating..
I don't play as a DPS.Edited by Jeremy on September 4, 2018 10:21AM1 -
zaria✭✭✭✭✭
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Some very explicit chat comments could get you into trouble.Sadly there is little ZOS can do about people being jerks if they're not breaking any rules.
They could try to overhaul how the group finder system works but at the end of the day if players take it upon themselves to police groups to their standards ZOS can't do much to stop them.
Best advice I can give is try and find an active and friendly guild and make groups for dungeons via that, even if you just get one more person from your guild with you it makes vote kicks harder to achieve.
I was under the impression that abusing the kick function and kicking people for no reason - in short using it as a method for trolling others - was against the rules.
But does ZOS have a way to actually see if someone is "abusing" the kick function? I would imagine it would probably be difficult to prove you were kicked unjustly (unless you record/screenshot every pug run).
I would imagine they could investigate the chat and/or combat information of the situation to figure it out.
Some incidents might be difficult to conclude from. Others should be obvious though. For example: if you have the same three people talking crap and kicking everyone who joins their group it should be obvious what they are doing.
Simply farming the dungeon queue is not and yes if some farms for an high dps player as they suck you are happy to get kicked, its likely to be three fools in an harder vet dungeon, all three on fake roles.Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
Takes-No-Prisoner✭✭✭✭✭
✭Was it Normal Dark Shade Caverns 1? I can run it with you if you are on PS4 NA0 -
Itzmichi✭✭✭✭✭Man this is so cancer. They obviously worked on their masters in toxicology. Little you can do, just don't take it to your heart.Here, have a chill pill 💊!1 -
erliesc✭✭✭LordSkyKnight wrote: »Can’t help but think this thread is a fishhook....
LIFE is a fish hook?
Why does the chicken cross the road? To get to the other side....
You're here...you do what you have to do...to get across the road....
If you get stuck in the middle of the road and start running in circles...oh no...here comes that truck...I know nutting....1 -
erliesc✭✭✭Valera Progib wrote: »For how long did they do this dungeon if you managed to get in three times after being kicked? According to your comments you did 45k dps, so you did manage to kill some mobs, assuming that - you are either lying or strongly exaggerating.
P.S. I don’t believe that if you que as damage you can get in such situation.
In the six times I've played...the last one I had to re-enter about 3xs...I'd guess they were kicking me...but I just keep saying "put me in". Got in and finished it.I know nutting....0 -
Icy_Waffles✭✭✭✭✭
✭This doesn’t add up. 45k FPS don’t get kicked from dark shade 1. Lol he prolly has like 6k dps and got kicked.1 -
MerlinPendragon✭✭✭✭Icy_Waffles wrote: »This doesn’t add up. 45k FPS don’t get kicked from dark shade 1. Lol he prolly has like 6k dps and got kicked.
This ^^^
I have my doubts the OP was posting 45k DPS. You can pretty much solo Darkshade1 at that rate._____________________________________
Merlin Pendragon - Uther Pendragon - The Lady of the Lake - Sir Lancelot1
