Why are healer queue times so long?

generalmyrick · August 2018

I used to get 30 second q times as a healer, last night (during what i call "event time!") my q time was 6 minutes 41 seconds before going to cyrodiil (no q during primetime)....i was Qed for new dlc dungeons and wgt.

Why are healer queue times so long?

Ardan147 · August 2018

Only allowing players to select one role for dungeons has done absolutely nothing to address the problem of people queueing as healers or tanks to cheat the queue when they are unable to adequately perform those roles, but has only served to punish those players with characters who CAN perform multiple roles.

And what about this possible scenario: a group ends up with a healer who ends up doing a *** poor job and needs to be kicked. One of the DPS is more than capable of being the healer, if necessary; meaning that either a healer or a DPS would be needed to reconstitute a full group. But because said player can't also select healer as their role, the group is forced to wait for a healer to enter the queue. (With no guarantee that said healer is actually a healer, or another DPS trying to cheat the queue.)

Tryxus · August 2018

Influx of (fake) healers?

I queued yesterday for vWGT as a healer, took me a good 15 mins before until my 1st ready check. I must've accepted that one over a dozen times, but it always bugged out when "forming group" so I gave up. Queued a second time, happened again: same wait time and same bug.

Joined a group manually, but they alrdy had a healer so I changed to DPS...

So maybe there are too many healers queuing up with this event?

keevil111 · August 2018

I've noticed this as well. It used to pop as soon as I joined Q. Oh well, at least my tank still has no issues with it.

zaria · August 2018

If you get lots of "some refused the invite" its an group finder problem.
People got this even on pre formed groups the days after the new dungeons.

jypcy · August 2018

Probably because of the restriction to only select one role now. I would expect that dps who wanted to skip the queue before would queue as every role, or heals and dps and so could just as easily get placed as a dps. Now if they want to skip the queue, they can only choose one, and I’d guess that they choose heals more often than tank (tmk people sub the healer out for a third dps more than they do the tank). Since they’re now only healers instead of healers plus whatever else, the queue for specifically healers is longer.

At least, assuming the queue system itself is working the same as before the patch, I’d assume that’s the difference.

zaria · August 2018

jypcy wrote: »

Probably because of the restriction to only select one role now. I would expect that dps who wanted to skip the queue before would queue as every role, or heals and dps and so could just as easily get placed as a dps. Now if they want to skip the queue, they can only choose one, and I’d guess that they choose heals more often than tank (tmk people sub the healer out for a third dps more than they do the tank). Since they’re now only healers instead of healers plus whatever else, the queue for specifically healers is longer.

At least, assuming the queue system itself is working the same as before the patch, I’d assume that’s the difference.

Problem is that if you selected healer+ DD in the old system you would get in as healer as healer queues are shorter.
Exception is if you got sent to the front of queue, now you have an decent chance of getting in as DD if finder assigned another as healer.

But its likely you got more fake healer than tanks now, its also very easy to make an real healer out of any magic build.

LadyNalcarya · August 2018

I dont think it's related to fake healers or anything, I've had the same issue with a premade group, it just wouldnt port us in and when we tried to port manually, everyone got a long loading screen and disconnected.

Inarre · August 2018

My dps queues were over two hours long yesterday and the day before. No idea what they would have been because I gave up and never got to run any dungeons. 6 minutes is nothing.

alainjbrennanb16_ESO · August 2018

its all this fake role queuing thats causes the probs

Inarre · August 2018

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

its all this fake role queuing thats causes the probs

If there were fake healers/tanks i think it would lessen the issues for everyone. The only reason healer would have been waiting is if there was no tank for their content. There were certainly dps.

weedgenius · August 2018

SAME! I run dungeons on my healer every day through the group finder. I can honestly say there has only been one time in the past month that I had to wait more than 10 minute for the queue to pop, but since the new dungeons dropped I've sat and waited 30+ mins on multiple occasions now.

My guess is that everyone is doing the new dungeons so any queue for something other than MHK or MoS is taking a long time.

idk · August 2018

Pretty much most every magicka character can heal a dungeon fairly easily. Just slot an rStaff and a couple heals and go.

molecule · August 2018

Inarre wrote: »

My dps queues were over two hours long yesterday and the day before. No idea what they would have been because I gave up and never got to run any dungeons. 6 minutes is nothing.

Yep, DPS que times are terrible, 45mins/1hour for any dungeon.

adeptusminor · August 2018

As a dps I always thought the group finder was just an ingame timer. I didn't realize something was supposed to actually happen when I click "Join Queue"

yurimodin · August 2018

idk wrote: »

Pretty much most every magicka character can heal a dungeon fairly easily. Just slot an rStaff and a couple heals and go.

as someone who mains a healer you need to add orb/shards to that list.........your tank will thank you.

Hookgrin · August 2018

It appeared to me that the Wolfhunter dungeons have harder hitting mechanics to punish and discourage fake tanks with the intent of putting an end to this problem, and all that did was cause them to start queuing as fake healers.

Guppet · August 2018

Hookgrin wrote: »

It appeared to me that the Wolfhunter dungeons have harder hitting mechanics to punish and discourage fake tanks with the intent of putting an end to this problem, and all that did was cause them to start queuing as fake healers.

Easier to survive with a fake healer than a fake tank.

mocap · August 2018

same here. Playing mostly as tank this days. I think it started after Wolfhunter update.
UPD: Also i see A LOT more players in Ebon set in Deshaan. If ZOS wants players to play more as tanks, then, well, they did it in synthetic forced way, but they did it )

DMuehlhausen · August 2018

If you are queing for just one specific dungeon that's why.

I que'd last night for a vRandom and popped before I could turn my toon around.

KraziJoe · August 2018

because no Tank queued.

YamiKuruku · August 2018

because fake healers (: that can't be bothered to slot one heal but will take the queue place for a real healer

well, i noticed it too. I now need to wait really long IF i get a pop up at all on my healers... meh.
Atleast i have my tank when i want some quick queue but still not optimal

zaria · August 2018

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

I dont think it's related to fake healers or anything, I've had the same issue with a premade group, it just wouldnt port us in and when we tried to port manually, everyone got a long loading screen and disconnected.

My experience with groups lately, lots of issues with the dungeon finder.
I understand it right after the new dungeon dropped as all wanted to try them but weeks after ?

zaria · August 2018

DMuehlhausen wrote: »

If you are queing for just one specific dungeon that's why.

I que'd last night for a vRandom and popped before I could turn my toon around.

Yes. First if you want one specific dungeon wait for it to be pledge, this also tend to increase quality of group.

If you lack some dungeons queue for all, DD queues are shorter in vet but vet is obviously harder also if you want to listen to quest that is for normal. Still find I always end up in vet if queue for both normal and vet on DD.
Makes sense, normals are filled with skill point starved players leveling and casuals.
If you have enough skill points its trivial to make an real healer setup for all magic builds.

brandonv516 · August 2018

My healer's dungeon queue feels like my main's BG queue.

raj72616a · August 2018

because tanks are fed up with fake dps and don't pug?

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