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Welkynar Motif Crown Store
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Thrusts-His-Spear wrote: »Oh god who cares
This. New styles (from in game) in the crown store always cost 5k. You didn’t call anything if you merely guess the obvious.24 -
NorthernNightmare✭✭✭✭✭Dont worry. You can grind for weeks on end and be at the mercy of rng! Nothing to complain about /s11 -
Jhalin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭It’s required for Master Writs so no it isn’t just cosmetic anymore. This is such transparent *** and it’s sickening how little ZOS cares about putting the full extent of their greed on display to their player base27 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Are you people just now realizing this?
Because people started seeing this around Imperial City with the Alliance motifs, and especially the old Glass grind.Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake8 -
wenchmore420b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭At least people can do the Master Writs that they released a month ago that requires Welknar.
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Hal_Moore✭✭✭Yes lets not fund the game you play...smart.
Servers require upkeep and employees require paychecks. . .Surprise!8 -
Inarre✭✭✭✭✭
✭Everyone is already wearing sirorias/relequen/olorime anyway. Just click on the "show gear" tab and gg. Free Welkynar Motif!Edited by Inarre on August 29, 2018 5:31PM6 -
kathandira✭✭✭✭✭
✭Looks like i'll be spending 5,000 crowns tonight! This will look great on my healer.
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Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭kathandira wrote: »Looks like i'll be spending 5,000 crowns tonight! This will look great on my healer.
It's not the 12th lolValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake3 -
Jhalin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »
For the vast majority of players, no, it’s not.
All previous data from PTS and otherwise says is bind on pickup. Players won’t be able to buy it with gold earned through other gameplay options. And asking players to grind out vCR over and over and over and over is neither reasonable, nor is the suggestion is even feasible. Most guilds still struggle with vHoF, vAS doesn’t even have a real place for melee classes in +2.
These “mini trials” have been poorly designed, and now have been loaded with RNG and a grind to match Jewelryrcrafting in their motif obtainment. It’s not reasonable by any stretch of the imaginationEdited by Jhalin on August 29, 2018 10:54PM18 -
jbjondeaueb17_ESO✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »
He isn't :
Wolfhunter patch notes :
Note that the Welkynar Style Motif will become available in a future patch, starting September 12 at 2pm UTC.
Patch 4.1.7 :
Fixed an issue where Welkynar Motif Fragments were dropping from Veteran Cloudrest Trial when two (and only two) of the three bosses fought alongside Z’Maja. The Motif Fragments will no longer drop until September 12th, when they are scheduled to begin dropping from all Veteran configurations of the Cloudrest Trial (and Normal Cloudrest, when Z’Maja has all her allies)
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generalmyrick✭✭✭✭✭
✭Called it ages ago. 5000 crowns. Shame on ZOS
5k crowns! good looooord that's a lot of crowns. i could by so much with 5k crowns!"The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:
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Wreuntzylla✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes lets not fund the game you play...smart.
Servers require upkeep and employees require paychecks. . .Surprise!
Basic math using ZoS' own number can tell you how far from reality you are. It's all profit and has been for quite a long time.
I am constantly surprised that people argue that game companies need money. Some game releases are approaching $1B...13 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭generalmyrick wrote: »
Not really. Everything is overpriced so you could buy like 2 or 3 things that aren't 5k.
Even that new costume is 2k. Then again I think so were the Alliance Hero outfitsValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake2 -
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✭✭✭Thrusts-His-Spear wrote: »Oh god who cares
If the people able to farm vet CR for the fragments and bindings don't care then no one should. This is lessening the gold they will make off of selling the pages, as many of us will simply just get it from the crown store instead.
Anyone who can join normal CR+3 can farm too, but at 1 frag per I think I would rather shoot myself in the foot first.Runs| Orc Nightblade • Chim-el Adabal| Dunmer Templar • M'air the Honest| Khajiit Templar
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kvlou79✭✭✭Lmao. This is so shady! Introduce ultra-gfy-grind, but, immediately available for cash.
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MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »
For the vast majority of players, no, it’s not.
All previous data from PTS and otherwise says is bind on pickup. Players won’t be able to buy it with gold earned through other gameplay options. And asking players to grind out vCR over and over and over and over is neither reasonable, nor is the suggestion is even feasible. Most guilds still struggle with vHoF, vAS doesn’t even have a real place for melee classes in +2.
These “mini trials” have been poorly designed, and now have been loaded with RNG and a grind to match Jewelryrcrafting in their motif obtainment. It’s not reasonable by any stretch of the imagination
I haven't seen any confirmation that they are BoP, just rampant rumours.0 -
MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lmao. This is so shady! Introduce ultra-gfy-grind, but, immediately available for cash.
It's not shady. It's a way for raiders to make gold (as raiding isn't profitable at all right now).
If it turns out that the pages are BoP, then it would be shady, but nothing so far indicates that will be the case.3 -
Minyassa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Tsaesci was actually cheaper than I expected, I guess this is how they make it up. I'm not surprised. Even without people feeling obligated to do all the master writs ever, it's got wings. Ra Gada used to be super expensive before the anniversary event, wings are popular. That's the only reason I'll be getting it. Crown store is my only chance to have it, really.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭At current exchange rates for PC/NA, that's 1 million for the full book if you have it gifted to you. That somewhat limits what a page can be sold for. Will people pay 100k a page (times 14) and spend the time hunting them down spending 1.4 million in the process? Some will, but if you have 1 million on you and are comfortable with gifting for gold, it will most definitely be a cheaper, faster and easier route to go with and I'm betting that's exactly what ZOS is thinking as well.Edited by redspecter23 on August 30, 2018 12:35AM8 -
Jhalin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »
For the vast majority of players, no, it’s not.
All previous data from PTS and otherwise says is bind on pickup. Players won’t be able to buy it with gold earned through other gameplay options. And asking players to grind out vCR over and over and over and over is neither reasonable, nor is the suggestion is even feasible. Most guilds still struggle with vHoF, vAS doesn’t even have a real place for melee classes in +2.
These “mini trials” have been poorly designed, and now have been loaded with RNG and a grind to match Jewelryrcrafting in their motif obtainment. It’s not reasonable by any stretch of the imagination
I haven't seen any confirmation that they are BoP, just rampant rumours.
Every bit of the pages in game on the PTS was BoP. I’ll hold out hope the pages themselves are not, but given ZOS’s track record, I’m not counting on it0 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Normal Plus 3 isn't that hard. I'll probably just grind it out.
As I recall, on n+3, only 1 person in the group gets a drop. On v+0 it's 3 people, v+3 everyone gets one. I'm not sure about v+1 and v+2, but they have their own payouts as well.
Then you get a page fragment, not a full motif. So, you have a 1 in 12 chance of getting 10% of one random page. Meaning you'd need to run n+3 roughly 120 times to get a single page. 1680 times to get each page, assuming that you never see a duplicate page, and you get one fragment every 12 runs. It's possible you could, theoretically complete it in as little as 140 runs if you have innhumanly good luck, but even the v+3 guys are looking at 140 runs minimum to put the motif together. Realistically, you're probably looking at more like 5k runs to complete the motif on n+3. So... yeah, that's a little extreme.Edited by starkerealm on August 30, 2018 12:46AM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭You don't have to buy the crowns yourself, you can buy them with gold from someone selling crowns as if you were buying it on a guild trader. So who cares lol. Smart move on ZOS's part and if you hate buying crowns well good news for you isn't it.#MOREORBS1 -
Runs✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »
For the vast majority of players, no, it’s not.
All previous data from PTS and otherwise says is bind on pickup. Players won’t be able to buy it with gold earned through other gameplay options. And asking players to grind out vCR over and over and over and over is neither reasonable, nor is the suggestion is even feasible. Most guilds still struggle with vHoF, vAS doesn’t even have a real place for melee classes in +2.
These “mini trials” have been poorly designed, and now have been loaded with RNG and a grind to match Jewelryrcrafting in their motif obtainment. It’s not reasonable by any stretch of the imagination
I haven't seen any confirmation that they are BoP, just rampant rumours.
Every bit of the pages in game on the PTS was BoP. I’ll hold out hope the pages themselves are not, but given ZOS’s track record, I’m not counting on it
I can't speak for the motif pages, or the bindings... But the fragments are not BoP, I have been mailed 3 of them from them dropping before they were removed from the drop table till official release on the 12th. I personally can't see the motif pages being BoP on live though, as no other motif has been this way with the exception of crown/crate pages/books.Runs| Orc Nightblade • Chim-el Adabal| Dunmer Templar • M'air the Honest| Khajiit Templar
Oddity| Altmer Sorceror • Drizlo| Orc DragonKnight • Lady Ra Gada| Redguard Sorceror
Taste-of-Hist-Sap| Argonian Nightblade • War'den Peace| Khajiit Warden • Little Warden Annie Altmer Warden
Ports with Blood| Breton Templar • Dirty-Old-Man| Dunmer DragonKnight • Eyes-of-the-Sun| Argonian DragonKnight
Bleak Mystique| Nord Warden • Polychronopolous| Imperial Sorceror • Bullcrit| Khajiit Nightblade
PC NA CP 1250+ and still a noob
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Don't think it's extreme I think ZOS are finally adding rewarding content. About time.starkerealm wrote: »Normal Plus 3 isn't that hard. I'll probably just grind it out.
As I recall, on n+3, only 1 person in the group gets a drop. On v+0 it's 3 people, v+3 everyone gets one. I'm not sure about v+1 and v+2, but they have their own payouts as well.
Then you get a page fragment, not a full motif. So, you have a 1 in 12 chance of getting 10% of one random page. Meaning you'd need to run n+3 roughly 120 times to get a single page. 1680 times to get each page, assuming that you never see a duplicate page, and you get one fragment every 12 runs. It's possible you could, theoretically complete it in as little as 140 runs if you have innhumanly good luck, but even the v+3 guys are looking at 140 runs minimum to put the motif together. Realistically, you're probably looking at more like 5k runs to complete the motif on n+3. So... yeah, that's a little extreme.
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Oakmontowls_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭starkerealm wrote: »Normal Plus 3 isn't that hard. I'll probably just grind it out.
As I recall, on n+3, only 1 person in the group gets a drop. On v+0 it's 3 people, v+3 everyone gets one. I'm not sure about v+1 and v+2, but they have their own payouts as well.
Then you get a page fragment, not a full motif. So, you have a 1 in 12 chance of getting 10% of one random page. Meaning you'd need to run n+3 roughly 120 times to get a single page. 1680 times to get each page, assuming that you never see a duplicate page, and you get one fragment every 12 runs. It's possible you could, theoretically complete it in as little as 140 runs if you have innhumanly good luck, but even the v+3 guys are looking at 140 runs minimum to put the motif together. Realistically, you're probably looking at more like 5k runs to complete the motif on n+3. So... yeah, that's a little extreme.
you forgot the part where you can only combine one fragment set per week per character3
