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Why I repaid my ESO+ subscription..... how about you?

Parrot1986
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Since ZoS loves all things balanced and there’s a few of the same threads but of an opposite nature starting. Please don’t say anything negative or your being toxic.

Love the craft bag and making a healthy amount of gold from selling the crowns :)
  • SirDopey
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    Crafting bag & double storage space - it's my skooma, I can't live without it
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    xx Doc Holliday xx
  • kargen27
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    If you play more than three hours a month it is cheaper than a movie and all kinds of other entertainment out there. Crafting bag gives me more time to play because I don't have to spend as much time managing inventory. Also allows me to support the game without supporting the crownstore.
    and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."
  • Judas Helviaryn
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    Well, I just dropped my sub, because there's no real point in supporting the game anymore.

    I can deal with the inventory issues, but ZOS is just not worth investing in.
    Edited by Judas Helviaryn on August 29, 2018 10:12PM
  • HighKinlady
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    I didn’t :# there’s some balance for you .
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    PC : Kinlady

  • kojou
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    I sub because ZOS employees need to eat and pay their bills.
    Playing since beta...
  • Judas Helviaryn
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    kojou wrote: »
    I sub because ZOS employees need to eat and pay their bills.

    They get paid before anything else. I promise you they won't go hungry just because you dropped your subscription.
  • Salvas_Aren
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    kojou wrote: »
    I sub because ZOS employees need to eat and pay their bills.

    This sounds more like the reason you pay taxes. B)
  • Waffennacht
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    Nerp, no more plus 4 me
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    Waffennacht' Builds
  • Hal_Moore
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    Storage space and craft bag is life plus all the free dlc's i've yet to explore <3 Thank you ZOS.
  • HighKinlady
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    Glad my original post could trigger such a post .. since we all know ZOS doesn’t care about anything balanced . But .. it’s always good to see both sides B)
    XB NA
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    PC : Kinlady

  • AnonomissX
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    Because the 350 to 700 jump in items for my Guild House, Earthtear cavern, the bottomless bag and that I need it for running my part of guild responsibilities. Otherwise, if a company does not deliver, they don't get my coin.

    But lets face it ...if you ARE playing, it's a pittance vs the pain in the rear to remember to cancel...if you have moved on, cancelling will be performed double quick.

    End game PvP players need to be satisfied because the need to freshen gear for that real live battle and one-up-manship is what drives the economy, and now housing and battlegrounds.

    So it is still important to me to fix the long sloading times, crap lag and disconnect issues even if I don't quite get all the way to killing my plus subscription.
    Ebonheart Pact, Nord Templar/healer on NA Xbox server. My main toon WAS a tall and foxy redhead - now she has been gamma-irradiated and has green skin and black hair. 3 other characters I only use for writs. Can't be bothered to create multiple toons - EXCEPT now my WW is getting spooled up for Cyrodiil - Blood For The Pact! IRL cranky sometimes redhead chick at large in Las Vegas, NV
  • Sevn
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    I find it highly irritating trying to play without the crafting bag and added bank space. Takes up way too much of my playtime micromanaging every single day for at least an hour or two before I can dive into the content I'm interested in.

    Honestly, if I was Zos I'd restrict forum access to subbers, at least then they'd know the folks who are complaining are actually supporting them and be more likely to take more of the complaints seriously. I wouldn't give a *** about complaints coming from non-subbers quite frankly.
    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man, true nobility is being superior to your former self
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  • jedtb16_ESO
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    £0.25 a day for great entertainment.

    what else could i get for that princely sum?
  • HighKinlady
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    Sevn wrote: »
    I find it highly irritating trying to play without the crafting bag and added bank space. Takes up way too much of my playtime micromanaging every single day for at least an hour or two before I can .

    It’s not hard . Like at all. If you’re having issues managing that’s on you . Rest assure , we non subs don’t spend an hour or two of our days trying to manage .
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    PC : Kinlady

  • Salvas_Aren
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    £0.25 a day for great entertainment.

    what else could i get for that princely sum?

    Half a nespresso. Sounds petty, I know. But the nespresso works every day. It has no bugs and the machine is not offline for 8 hours during prime time.
    Edited by Salvas_Aren on August 29, 2018 10:31PM
  • Davor
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    I thought I had a 6 month sub, but it was only 3 months. For 2 days I WAS GOING BAT CRAZY without my craft bag. I had to wait 2 days till money came in and resubbed. This time I know it's 3 months. Just a bit upset that ESO is not working for me properly the day after resubbing.

    So why I resubbed? Mostly for the Craft bag. But also the DLC since I don't have any. I thought I did but I bought them on Xbox One and didn't want to re buy again on PC. Also I have the OPTION to sub and not forced so as weird as that sounds, I don't mind having a sub.

    I am enjoying the game except for what I said already. :)
    Not my quote but I love this saying

    "I would pay It for support. But since they choosed we are just numbers and not customers, i dont mind if game and zos goes to oblivion"
  • Valrien
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    £0.25 a day for great entertainment.

    what else could i get for that princely sum?

    Half a nespresso. Sounds petty, I know. But the nespresso works every day. It has no bugs and the machine is not offline for 8 hours during prime time.

    Prime time is not the same everywhere.

    Do you even online game?
    Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
    Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)
    Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake
  • ArchMikem
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    Parrot1986 wrote: »
    Since ZoS loves all things balanced and there’s a few of the same threads but of an opposite nature starting. Please don’t say anything negative or your being toxic.

    Love the craft bag and making a healthy amount of gold from selling the crowns :)

    The sub makes me run out of cash...oh crap am i being toxic?
    CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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  • Linaleah
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    I can live without craft bag (even if I would rather not) I cannot live with furnishing limits. its bad enough as ESO plus, having HALF that space without subscription is just.. eeek. just try nicely furnishing a manor house with only 350 slots. its hard enough with 700, especially those large crown only houses.
    dirty worthless casual.
    Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***
    Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"
  • qbit
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    I’m only a couple of months into the game. My main only has 10 days play time. So I’m still subbing! Love this game.
  • Elsonso
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    Parrot1986 wrote: »
    Since ZoS loves all things balanced and there’s a few of the same threads but of an opposite nature starting. Please don’t say anything negative or your being toxic.

    Love the craft bag and making a healthy amount of gold from selling the crowns :)

    Balance... Here's both sides of my story.

    I am a long time subscriber going back to 2014, and I have been pretty reliable, but not perfect. I have dropped my subscription twice because of stuff ZOS was doing, or not doing, related to the operation of the game. I am sensitive to two things with this studio... lack of attention to cheating and bots, and too much attention to what's in my wallet. The second one is a persistent one, like a mosquito buzzing around you that you can hear but can't catch. In any case, I have allowed my subscription to run out twice for those two reasons.

    ZOS earns my money, not with the Crafting Bag and extra bank space, which I can take or leave, or even the Crowns, but by producing quality additions to the game. Story DLC and Chapters. Art, stories, music, places to go, and things to do. This is what I pay for with my subscription, and ZOS delivers. This is why I am currently subscribing to ESO Plus, and why I am planning to allow it to renew in December.

    I've never really considered turning my Crowns into gold. I have a lot of gold. I pay very little attention to the Crown Store, not even really caring if I miss one of the limited time offers. I don't think my happiness would improve with more gold, or more time spent in the Crown Store.

    Although... gifting Crown Store items to randoms, with no strings attached, might be fun once in a while. :open_mouth:
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  • Salvas_Aren
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    Valrien wrote: »
    £0.25 a day for great entertainment.

    what else could i get for that princely sum?

    Half a nespresso. Sounds petty, I know. But the nespresso works every day. It has no bugs and the machine is not offline for 8 hours during prime time.

    Prime time is not the same everywhere.

    Do you even online game?

    Oh, you got me. I got this account without actually owning a copy of ESO. My bad.

    Wait ... they check for an actual play account, don't they?
  • Parrot1986
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Parrot1986 wrote: »
    Since ZoS loves all things balanced and there’s a few of the same threads but of an opposite nature starting. Please don’t say anything negative or your being toxic.

    Love the craft bag and making a healthy amount of gold from selling the crowns :)

    The sub makes me run out of cash...oh crap am i being toxic?

    Yes please refrain from doing so.
  • madchuska83
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    I can live without the extra space for now. They get nothing from me until this HDR issue is resolved. Which doesn't seem like a priority to them. And there are some really nice looking games coming out this fall. Hell, I may just take a few months break.
  • Parrot1986
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    Glad my original post could trigger such a post .. since we all know ZOS doesn’t care about anything balanced . But .. it’s always good to see both sides B)

    Thanks for the inspiration although my flight being delayed and being bored played a small part. think this proves this balance stuff is pretty easy though.
  • theyancey
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    Craft bag, free DLC, cost mostly refunded in crown jewels, etc, etc. It is a no brainer for me.
  • Valrien
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    Valrien wrote: »
    £0.25 a day for great entertainment.

    what else could i get for that princely sum?

    Half a nespresso. Sounds petty, I know. But the nespresso works every day. It has no bugs and the machine is not offline for 8 hours during prime time.

    Prime time is not the same everywhere.

    Do you even online game?

    Oh, you got me. I got this account without actually owning a copy of ESO. My bad.

    Wait ... they check for an actual play account, don't they?

    Well, if you knew how...you know...the world works, then you'd know that prime time isn't the same everywhere. ZOS does maitinence during their business hours (U.S. Eastern time zone). And in that part of the world, that is not prime time.

    They cannot ever have maitinence if they were worried about not screwing anyone over.
    Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
    Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)
    Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake
  • Salvas_Aren
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    Valrien wrote: »
    Well, if you knew how...you know...the world works, then you'd know that prime time isn't the same everywhere. ZOS does maitinence during their business hours (U.S. Eastern time zone). And in that part of the world, that is not prime time.

    They cannot ever have maitinence if they were worried about not screwing anyone over.

    Tbh I don't have a clue how the world works. I don't even think it's round. Enlighten me.

    Poor stupid little me thought, that having a physical server in Europe would grant more advantages than just that stupid ping. I have been so wrong all the time. Forgive me, master.

    Try to find the irony, maybe you can cast some ingots from it.
  • HighKinlady
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    Parrot1986 wrote: »
    Glad my original post could trigger such a post .. since we all know ZOS doesn’t care about anything balanced . But .. it’s always good to see both sides B)

    Thanks for the inspiration although my flight being delayed and being bored played a small part. think this proves this balance stuff is pretty easy though.

    You’re welcome
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    PC : Kinlady

  • Valrien
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    Valrien wrote: »
    Well, if you knew how...you know...the world works, then you'd know that prime time isn't the same everywhere. ZOS does maitinence during their business hours (U.S. Eastern time zone). And in that part of the world, that is not prime time.

    They cannot ever have maitinence if they were worried about not screwing anyone over.

    Tbh I don't have a clue how the world works. I don't even think it's round. Enlighten me.

    Poor stupid little me thought, that having a physical server in Europe would grant more advantages than just that stupid ping. I have been so wrong all the time. Forgive me, master.

    Try to find the irony, maybe you can cast some ingots from it.

    Considering the people that make and update the game are still American, idk why you expected that at all
    Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
    Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)
    Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake
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