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Why are custom guild chat colors per character and not per account?

weedgenius
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Is this an oversight or intended? I appreciate this QoL improvement for console users but this is a stupid implementation. I spent a long time making all my colors perfect, swapped toons and they're all back to the default green again... what's the point? It's not like I'm going to make each guild a different color for each of my characters.... Am I supposed to just recreate the color as closely as possible again? Lol...

AOE custom colors are account-wide, why not these? @ZOS_GinaBruno
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  • essi2
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    Because chat settings are from 2014 and AoE settings are from 2018(Possibly 2017, can't remember).

    Point is they didn't retroactively apply this change to all setting categories.
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  • weedgenius
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    essi2 wrote: »
    Because chat settings are from 2014 and AoE settings are from 2018(Possibly 2017, can't remember).

    Point is they didn't retroactively apply this change to all setting categories.

    @essi2 Do you think it's because they can't? Or they just didn't bother...?
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  • essi2
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    @weedgenius Most likely a bigger investment of time then they want to invest atm.

    Might get there eventually, but probably not a high priority
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  • Starlock
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    Does this feature exist on console at all? I've never heard of custom chat colors.
  • Krayl
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    Why is there no option for any custom text colors on console? Let alone account wide.

    it's ridiculous that after years, chats for different guilds are the same exact color and there is no way to change them, let alone filter.
    Edited by Krayl on August 28, 2018 6:41PM
  • Beardimus
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    @Starlock @Krayl there is, we got it today!
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  • weedgenius
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    @Starlock It was added with the newest patch
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  • Starlock
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    Woah, sweet! I haven't looked at patch notes yet. I read them when PC dropped, but sometimes a few things are different on console versions.
  • snegurd
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    Account wide guild chat colors would be great - I know it's a pain but getting the exact same colors across 8 toons is a pain and having different ones on different toons is confusing.
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  • Krayl
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    oh good. Didn't know that was part of this update.
  • LadyNalcarya
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    Ikr. It's really annoying.
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  • Starlock
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    snegurd wrote: »
    Account wide guild chat colors would be great - I know it's a pain but getting the exact same colors across 8 toons is a pain and having different ones on different toons is confusing.

    Yeah, it'll be one more thing to remember to set. There are several other preferences that are not account wide. There doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to it. I've just gotten used to having to review all settings every time I make a new character.
  • weedgenius
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    Starlock wrote: »
    snegurd wrote: »
    Account wide guild chat colors would be great - I know it's a pain but getting the exact same colors across 8 toons is a pain and having different ones on different toons is confusing.

    Yeah, it'll be one more thing to remember to set. There are several other preferences that are not account wide. There doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to it. I've just gotten used to having to review all settings every time I make a new character.

    But it's not even like you can copy and paste the hex for the color you're using.. you have to literally use the sliders to try to make the colors as similar as possible. So stupid.
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  • Kanar
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    Wow console just got this now?
    Maybe you guys can make enough noise to get it changed to account wide; obv PC had been unable to do it.
  • Left4Daud
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    I do like how some settings are character specific, and others are account wide. However regarding this issue, the guild chat colors really should be account wide.

    But the best possible solution imo would be to add a toggle for guild tab colors for either being character specific, or account wide. Even though I’m not sure anyone uses different colors for different characters, I mean you never know.

    Just add a toggle, everybody wins.
  • driosketch
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    Can you see the 0-255 values for RGB on consoles, or otherwise note position of sliders? Write it the down or mark the relative postition on a post-it. Yes it's a pain, probably should be account wide, but this is the work around I've used in the past. (Last time it was because my saved variables file mysteriously erased.)
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  • Rittings
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    15 characters... having to remember the exact color I changed each toon too... not fun... lol. Great addition, poor implementation lol.
  • TheShadowScout
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    It would be really nifty to have a "player settings" thing where you can save all your chat colors, keybinds, and so on across all your characters... but alas... no joy so far.
  • XxCaLxX
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    driosketch wrote: »
    Can you see the 0-255 values for RGB on consoles, or otherwise note position of sliders? Write it the down or mark the relative postition on a post-it. Yes it's a pain, probably should be account wide, but this is the work around I've used in the past. (Last time it was because my saved variables file mysteriously erased.)

    The values aren’t there for me on xbox

  • swippy
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    driosketch wrote: »
    Can you see the 0-255 values for RGB on consoles, or otherwise note position of sliders? Write it the down or mark the relative postition on a post-it. Yes it's a pain, probably should be account wide, but this is the work around I've used in the past. (Last time it was because my saved variables file mysteriously erased.)

    it's not numbers; we have a color wheel with white in the middle, and the slider on the right makes the shade darker. there's no adjustment for transparency, but i didn't expect one and that's just incidental; just saying for the sake of completeness.

    i love that it's a wheel and not a list like the dyes. but yeah, it'd be nice not to have to do this several times. as it is i'd be taking photographs of my screen for 5 guilds, say, yell, zone, whisper in and out, and system messages (i may have forgotten some) and trying to approximate crom there for as many characters as i care to...

    i love the option. i'll do it if i have to, but i'll also wait for an official response before i go through all that.
  • driosketch
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    swippy wrote: »
    i love the option. i'll do it if i have to, but i'll also wait for an official response before i go through all that.

    If you're looking a response like, "it's a bug" or "we'll make it account wide with next patch," well I wouldn't spend too much time waiting. It's been like that for the past 4 years on PC. Only thing is we have value input boxes, so hopefully you eventually get at least that much, if not an outright update to make them account wide.
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  • Danikat
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    I could never understand this on PC either. I get why some options are character specific but I can't imagine why anyone would want their guilds to be different colours just because they're playing a different character.

    But that's how it's been on PC at least since 2015 when I started. The only difference is we can install addons to automatically copy the settings across to new characters, which saves a huge amount of time when setting one up or changing the colours.
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  • swippy
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    driosketch wrote: »
    swippy wrote: »
    i love the option. i'll do it if i have to, but i'll also wait for an official response before i go through all that.

    If you're looking a response like, "it's a bug" or "we'll make it account wide with next patch," well I wouldn't spend too much time waiting. It's been like that for the past 4 years on PC. Only thing is we have value input boxes, so hopefully you eventually get at least that much, if not an outright update to make them account wide.

    yes! that's exactly what i meant. thank you so much. alright then, i guess i won't hold my breath...

    (wow, PC could customize chat colors this whole time? how did it take so many years to give console half a feature?)
  • idk
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    This issue is we don’t want all setting per account and as such where does one draw the line. We all have differing oppinions.
  • swippy
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    that might be true, but i think this particular one seems very straightforward concerning which side of the line it should be on. the way people (i study things like this; it isn't just me) perceive colors and their connotations, especially in text, is a tough thing to go back and forth on. it feels like re-wiring your brain to switch something around that's become natural to instantly perceive a certain way and then change it to a different thing. if the color indicators on item quality suddenly went red>orange>yellow>green>blue i'm sure there would be an uproar. luckily this is something we can fix; it just feels like a silly amount of work to do.

    have you ever met someone who spent years of their adult life not using sunglasses, but then (maybe out of concern for protecting their vision) felt the need to start wearing them? the level of frustration and stress regarding the forced shift in understanding their new perception is difficult to ignore, though difficult to communicate. this is similar.

    again, luckily i can ameliorate this by changing it on all my characters at once. the initial shift will be jarring but worthwhile, but it's much better to do it only once. it's time for work now, but i know that once i get home tonight i'll be spending about an hour taking photos of my main's preferences and then trying to approximate those on all the other characters.

    then i'll probably never talk about it again until they fix it and it's my turn again to say "good idea!"
  • weedgenius
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    How are you guys holding up on this? Did people end end up just recreating colors across their accounts?

    I was really excited about this when it launched but after I realized it wasn't account-wide I just switched everything back to default and haven't used this feature at all :confused:
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  • swippy
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    that's a bummer. yeah i was excited too, but i hope they change it to account settings. i haven't done the thing yet about copying it across all my characters. it's kind of kept me from spending much time on alts except for real quick the thing i switched over for. i'm lazy though. but i haven't heard anybody express anything but disappointment that it isn't account-wide, and i've talked with a few dozen people about it in chat.

    i hope it's in the Murkmire update, but i didn't see any PTS gamepad notes.
  • xshatox
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    You can custom color chat guild? never now that. might wanna try it later.
  • SHADOW2KK
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    xshatox wrote: »
    You can custom color chat guild? never now that. might wanna try it later.

    Ye on every character, plus keybindings/other settings, unless you use an addon.

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    For PC I recommend PChat addon. Though I still prefer to do the settings per character.
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