Sales is one thing, profit is quite another. In order to have actual profit you must sell things at about 10% higher price than the craft cost, provided you bought the materials, since guild fees are 7%. But a 3% profit margin barely makes sense.

From my experience crafted items have quite low profit margins and gear sells very slowly compared to consumables. For potions that profit margin is almost nil, since Alchemy is extremely easy to level, and you'll probably do it for Medicinal Use anyway; you are better off selling the plants outright. Even glyphs have profit margins of 10% or lower, although Enchanting is quite slow to level. For provisioning Dubious Camoran Throne - recipe is a seasonal drop so some people won't have it - Clockwork Citrus File & Arthaeum Takeaway Broth - both recipes are account bound - are pretty much the few that have good profit margins, although the latter is currently bugged in more than one way. Jewelry Crafting is probably the only one that's still profitable, because it's locked behind a chapter purchase, most people haven't had time to research enough traits even if they purchased the chapter, and upgrades are expensive right now - they will decrease in price next patch since the requirements will be decreased. I expect the window of profitability on that to close quite fast over the next few months.

I don't know about furniture but more exclusive blueprints are expensive so the initial investment is high and unlikely to be recovered; most people simply learn motifs and blueprints for the sale of completion. Another category is stuff bought with vouchers and resold for gold, but the profitability of that is harder to asses due to the variable price of vouchers, craft cost, and demand for the respective item. For example I was able to make quite a bit of gold on Dragon Bones launch selling the purple Morrowind blueprints that came from the envelopes that had just been added to the voucher vendor, before people realized where they came for and the price crashed. I also know someone who sells transmute stations, but at 1250 vouchers a pop, they're quite a gamble, even for a strong guild that has had a merchant in Belkarth almost every week for the last 2+ years.

Counter-intuitively, the best profit margin is simply doing the daily writs at maximum tier - that means basically selling to NPCs - then selling the upgrade materials on guild stores. Overall that has a profit margin of 65-70% but does require sustained effort and a dozen level 50, maximum tier characters to work.

I am quite surprised to find out that people make 500k-1M a week from crafting.

How many chars do you play to achieve this? I have one char that is a good crafter (furnishings and traits/styles), and I am clueless about what furniture to sell, because the stuff I put for sale sits there for weeks. I even tried with some Alinor stuff, like dividers and plants which are popular, but they also sit there for ever. I relisted those at very low prices, just the price of culanda and resins, even then they sold slowly.

Also, it seems obvious that Julianos and Hundings or Shacklebreaker / Sload's are in demand, but these hardly sell for me. Does it matter what style you use for crafting?

Do you need to make the items gold to sell?

I only craft generic stuff to sell on traders. Food (including the sort after ones - rare recipes) Purple Enchants if you have a huge stock of repora / rekuta which I always seem to.

Gear I offer to craft i chat / guilds. As its quite personal.

As people have said tho, new content stuff is the $ so right now that Jewelry stuffs

If I'm selling anything related to crafting, it's usually materials and master writs and they do sell well. Gold mats aren't worth what they have been in the past, but they move if priced reasonably. Doing daily writs on multiple toons if possible is the best way to make money by actually crafting things in my opinion.

Asardes wrote: »

Counter-intuitively, the best profit margin is simply doing the daily writs at maximum tier - that means basically selling to NPCs - then selling the upgrade materials on guild stores. Overall that has a profit margin of 65-70% but does require sustained effort and a dozen level 50, maximum tier characters to work.

What do you mean by selling to NPCs? What do you sell?

Up until they introduced the style station I made a decent living selling crafted sets of hard to acquire motifs.

Now I am making money selling gold tempers and rare components or motifs I acquire and already have.

The profit margin on crafting and selling gold sets is not a viable market and if you track your costs, you'll soon understand this and look towards other options. I can turn about a half-mil a week if I stay on top of the market and remain vigilant in my approach (what and how much I sell it for).

On a side note I earn about 50k per day just doing the writs on my 10 characters (it take me 8 min per character), and if I need more, these same ten can bring me in another 180 to 220k per day on their thieving runs (Wrothgar) which takes about 30 min per character.

Briggs wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

Counter-intuitively, the best profit margin is simply doing the daily writs at maximum tier - that means basically selling to NPCs - then selling the upgrade materials on guild stores. Overall that has a profit margin of 65-70% but does require sustained effort and a dozen level 50, maximum tier characters to work.

What do you mean by selling to NPCs? What do you sell?

NPCs are great for using excess mats for foods and drinks no one uses and vendoring. Problem is, without a couple of addons, mass production to vendor to NPCs is a Time for Gold miss match, in other words you will make more gold per hour grinding certain public dungeons. And, even with the addons, your going to want to have some outside the game activity to pass time.

Best money makers are CP150 Green Food and Drink, and Poisons. Remember, use up ingredients that are not for in demand items.

This is kinda crafting related. But if you farm tel var you can buy alchemy satchels for 500 tel bar. Use the alchemy ingredients to make potions. Sell the potions and profit.

Interesting suggestions.... this is a lovely thread.

I recently had a ton of AP. I purchased some regional coffers from Cyrodill for Stonefalls looking for Silks of the Sun weapons. I ended up pulling a ton of Silks of the Sun gear in Divines. Being a set that is still in demand, I upgraded them to purple with elegant lining I get from refining mats and sold them for like 10k a piece.

The secret is in advertising. Just puting items on store doesnt help.

For example:
Sick of playing in bad gear and you got gold. Then visit a *guild name* store in *location* and get yourself a new armor in rare looks and perfect stats. Like *item name here you are selling*.

honestly I go for materials that can be farmed, such as flour, corn flower, clothing matts, ect But my biggest money maker is creating gear and purple items for higher players, make 20 to 30k off hundings rage, (depending on the level) plus ive been selling tons of jewelry dust at good prices. which sells alright.