Really? We are complaining about bgs now?
Ihatenightblades
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So many players have been blasting BG’s because they feel thry arent bein placed on s team that dominates to their liking.
Dont let these forums get to you zos Bgs is the best pvp mode we have and its endless fun imo.
So many different scenarios and tactics you can go with. You assume your being put with premades but you are queuing solo? Sounds to me you getting PACKKED UP and are just coming here to make unnecessary changes to game.
I dominate almost every solo Q i join so i know theres others. Git gud brah
#LeaveBgsAlone
Dont let these forums get to you zos Bgs is the best pvp mode we have and its endless fun imo.
So many different scenarios and tactics you can go with. You assume your being put with premades but you are queuing solo? Sounds to me you getting PACKKED UP and are just coming here to make unnecessary changes to game.
I dominate almost every solo Q i join so i know theres others. Git gud brah
#LeaveBgsAlone
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Mureel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Agreed! Ffs! Like just stahp. Queue solo. Stop going in premades and just have some fun.
Fish while you wait. Or pick flowers or do some surveys, whatever, and get on with it.
Don't let BG be edited down to where 10% of the population even bother.3 -
The_Brosteen✭✭✭✭✭Much wow whats your build, is stan warden still good this patch, I want to use a bow but arrow barage doesnt seem viable. Should I just be a sorcerer instead I heard they bad now. Do you have a guild I can join?0
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Mureel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Also, if you lose, boo hoo. Requeue and go again!
(Has all ach except the relic thingy because I usually guard our relic)2 -
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✭✭✭✭The main gripe I have is the queue time and feeding the enemy teams kills because they have a Mage's Fury spamming magsorc.
If it was just two teams and MMR system life would be sweet.8 -
Heimpai✭✭✭✭✭I’ve had a lot of close matches lately..a few where we completely rolled the opposition and a few where we got rolled.. i only play solo so idk how groups go
cyrodiil is still more fun (for me) but the ap sucks for people who can’t play that much0 -
xericdx✭✭✭Never played in organized group voice talk (or any organized group with synergized abilities and/gear). Sometimes grouped with randoms, sometimes grouped with guildies who never done BG and wanted to try. Almost always solo. Still had fun. Sometimes up against strong organized group and get stomped, some were probably pre makes...kudos to them, will be better next time.Edited by xericdx on August 21, 2018 5:25PMCharactersPrimo Aldouine (MagSorc), AD
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Mureel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭DuskMarine wrote: »this is why premades rule and randoms suck
Except I've been on a lot of randoms and waxed the floor with the other teams a lot!
That might be down to MMR.
I'm only doing a few a day, so not super high on the leaderboards.Edited by Mureel on August 21, 2018 5:35PM0 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭BGs launch. Play with your friends or queue solo in this fun new 4v4v4 team matchup! No more Cyrodiil zergs getting in the way of your small scale PVP! Rejoice!
Random players and premades get thrown together willy-nilly.
No one is happy.
ZOS institutes MMR.
Random players and premades get thrown together sometimes because of MMR.
No one is happy.
Did I get that right?
Problem is, there's no real solution that lets everyone have the matchups they want AND a reasonable queue time. The population of PVPers who want 4v4v4 just isn't that big.
So you can have your desired matchups in a separate queue of premades and random, but that queue is going to take a lot longer.
Or you can have a quicker queue, but you'll have to put up with not getting your separate queue for desired matchups.5 -
MooseKnuckles88✭✭✭✭I agree about bgs. When I first joined I got destroyed until I made an attempt to figure out what I was doing wrong, the problem was mostly me occasionally others. Lead by example, if the objective is to capture the relic, it might actually be helpful to...idk maybe capture the relic. If you're running around in pve gear, well you should expect to be have some trouble since it's a pvp event likewise if you're using certain skills that are more geared to pve might help to make changes. Like others have said, if you lose a game what's stopping you from queuing back up? Bgs is only at most 15 mins. Yes, there are bg specific groups out there that can run the table, if you don't like pugging up, then become a social individual and create a bg specific group.2
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✭✭✭✭✭It's why I doubt ZOS will bother to produce any more PvP content, as every time they do bring in something PvPers have requested - a PvP-focused DLC, dueling, Battlegrounds etc - the PvPers tear it to shreds and say it isn't what they wanted.4 -
Rain_Greyraven✭✭✭✭✭I vaguely remember saying that adding PVP to any MMO is the single biggest conductor of temper tantrums in the known universe.
"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.”
― Robert E. Howard
So you want to be a game developer? Here is the best way to go about it.5 -
Finviuswe✭✭✭✭I have a ton of fun in BGs, and I think everything would b great if the games were more balanced on average.
As soon as they get that down, they will just need to add in a skill-based rankings system and everything will b grat.Edited by Finviuswe on August 21, 2018 6:01PM0 -
Shadowmaster✭✭✭✭Ihatenightblades wrote: »I dominate almost every solo Q i join so i know theres others. Git gud brah
Bro I fought your squad in BGs 2 days ago you guys had 90 points and you were 1-6-3
Stop with the CNN-level trolling already.19 -
Shadowmaster✭✭✭✭It's why I doubt ZOS will bother to produce any more PvP content, as every time they do bring in something PvPers have requested - a PvP-focused DLC, dueling, Battlegrounds etc - the PvPers tear it to shreds and say it isn't what they wanted.
Thats because what we always wanted was what we had prior to 1.3 which was amazingly fluid PvP combat even with 3459032569834 people on screen. When we get that, we will all shut up again.7 -
Shadowmaster✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Random players and premades get thrown together sometimes because of MMR.
Its almost like we need a premade and non-premade queue eh.
You actually enjoy playing Crazy King vs a premade and your queue is with 3 guys under CP 200?
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✭✭✭I'm just sitting here waiting for the equivalent PvE threads to start popping up.
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✭✭✭✭✭DedEmbryonicCell19 wrote: »Gamers are just whiners .. if they die must be the games fault ....
got the t-shirt...still waiting for a good time and place to bust it out
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✭✭✭✭✭No, the mmr system has ruined battlegrounds for me. Waiting 20 minutes for a 10 minute battleground isn't fun2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Agreed! Ffs! Like just stahp. Queue solo. Stop going in premades and just have some fun.
Fish while you wait. Or pick flowers or do some surveys, whatever, and get on with it.
Don't let BG be edited down to where 10% of the population even bother.
except where playing solo qued gives you 20-30 minute solo ques and it doesn't become fun2 -
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✭✭✭Agreed! Ffs! Like just stahp. Queue solo. Stop going in premades and just have some fun.
Fish while you wait. Or pick flowers or do some surveys, whatever, and get on with it.
Don't let BG be edited down to where 10% of the population even bother.
except where playing solo qued gives you 20-30 minute solo ques and it doesn't become fun
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Take two matches that I played in last night. First match, Capture the Relic, the team I got put on was awful. Obviously a bunch of people that do not play a lot, so the experience was rough...we lost terribly.
Second match, Deathmatch, the team I was placed on were obviously better players. They got the concept of stick together, and we won the match VERY easily.
People cry about pre-mades all the time, in my second match - we would have been easily accused of being a pre-made - and we were a total PUG!
I agree that a good pre-made is tough to beat, but not all PUGs suck either. I kinda like the idea of not knowing how it is going to end up. If the group sucks, deal with it for 10 minutes and then move on. If the group rocks, enjoy your bonus AP from the round and also, move on.
As an aside, I purposefully leave group chat when a round starts, just so my experience is not dampened by trolls or whiny babies. You really don't need to communicate to win, the strategies are pretty basic if you been around awhile. I have learned to prefer a silent BG match vs. a dungeon or trials run with a bunch of attitude and salt. Plus, the BG match only lasts like 10 min vs the hour commitment to other group content.PS4 NA DC id: goldenflamesling2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Shadowmaster wrote: »It's why I doubt ZOS will bother to produce any more PvP content, as every time they do bring in something PvPers have requested - a PvP-focused DLC, dueling, Battlegrounds etc - the PvPers tear it to shreds and say it isn't what they wanted.
Thats because what we always wanted was what we had prior to 1.3 which was amazingly fluid PvP combat even with 3459032569834 people on screen. When we get that, we will all shut up again.
If only that were true, but a lot of people haven't been demanding that, they've been demanding new stuff that they trashed as soon as they got it. I also remember the complaints about PvP from launch (I wasn't in beta), so the notion that there was some magic period when everything in Cyrodiil was honey and roses is nonsense. It's pretty standard in any PvP situation that 50% of the players in any encounter will die, and as a result 50% of the players will blame their failure on performance, balance, or anything else they can think of, and call for something different whether from the past or future. They'd much rather do that than look at their own skill level in the present.1 -
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✭✭✭Shadowmaster wrote: »Ihatenightblades wrote: »I dominate almost every solo Q i join so i know theres others. Git gud brah
Bro I fought your squad in BGs 2 days ago you guys had 90 points and you were 1-6-3
Stop with the CNN-level trolling already.
So you're judging the entirety of a whole Ever of game play vs ONE match?
Nice meme.
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✭DuskMarine wrote: »this is why premades rule and randoms suck
Nah, this is why (or at least one of the reasons why) PvP fails miserably in MMORPGs, whilst real PvP games often have millions of players.Edited by Sylosi on August 21, 2018 7:34PM0 -
Finviuswe✭✭✭✭DuskMarine wrote: »this is why premades rule and randoms suck
Feel free to think that man, think that all u want as long as y'all are only matched against other premades.
Two pug teams vs a 4 man premade is a waist of time for every1, even the premade3 -
ruikkarikun✭✭✭✭✭Can anyone tell me why I'm getting team with 3 man.
Rest two teams always have 4, and I'm always in team with 3 whic is 100% auto loss. We get last player during middle of the match when first and second team have 200+ points and we have ZERO (less then 50).
Againt time is EU prime, it begun after last update. Before that it was more more rarely and not in prime.2 -
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✭✭✭ruikkarikun wrote: »Can anyone tell me why I'm getting team with 3 man.
Rest two teams always have 4, and I'm always in team with 3 whic is 100% auto loss. We get last player during middle of the match when first and second team have 200+ points and we have ZERO (less then 50).
Againt time is EU prime, it begun after last update. Before that it was more more rarely and not in prime.
Not always! I solo queue a LOT and get in 3 teams; and we often send them packing!
I think a lot of it has to do with 'ah crap, only 3!'
I always think: lol! 3! We might lose, but let's at least let them know we were here!
Sometimes it just takes one strong move to change the tide.
Never defeat yourself before you even start!
I know this isn't the normal 'but it's not fair!' pandering; but it feels SO GOOD to win or even come 2nd when the odds are stacked against you!
I've come to the point that I almost take a sick pleasure in it!
Yep, we rekt your life even so! 'Makes tea'
Edited to add: I'm at work, posting from phone, and now I'm dying to get home and BG!Edited by Mureel on August 21, 2018 8:14PM1
