XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »Can we keep this thread at the top?
Apache_Kid wrote: »XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »Can we keep this thread at the top?
We can damn well try. Congrats on your clear btw. Well-deserved
XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Damn. Still crickets over here from ZoS eh? What a shame
Yeah all i can say is that publicly, yes their are still crickets. Just waiting for them to post what they are gonna do about it.
Did a mod PM you about it or something? I haven't expected to hear anything cause they despise me on here lol
Yes a mod replied to a message i sent them with a very brief response.
The_Brosteen wrote: »XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Damn. Still crickets over here from ZoS eh? What a shame
Yeah all i can say is that publicly, yes their are still crickets. Just waiting for them to post what they are gonna do about it.
Did a mod PM you about it or something? I haven't expected to hear anything cause they despise me on here lol
Yes a mod replied to a message i sent them with a very brief response.
Was the response "we're looking into it"?
Because thats just zenimax for "please stop complaining we dont care"
The_Brosteen wrote: »XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Damn. Still crickets over here from ZoS eh? What a shame
Yeah all i can say is that publicly, yes their are still crickets. Just waiting for them to post what they are gonna do about it.
Did a mod PM you about it or something? I haven't expected to hear anything cause they despise me on here lol
Yes a mod replied to a message i sent them with a very brief response.
Was the response "we're looking into it"?
Because thats just zenimax for "please stop complaining we dont care"
Girl_Number8 wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Girl_Number8 wrote: »offering to sell the skin for as low as 200k. This is incredibly suspicious because the going rate for a legit vas+2 carry on Xbox NA is currently 6 million gold. ~Your Quote
So basically you're upset because someone is underselling you~
Tbh a mini trial should be the least of their worries with the buggy mess Summerset made~
Not even in the absolute slightest. I am mad because people are glitching probably the second most difficult PvE fight in the game for the rewards and nothing is being done about it. I do not sell carries for the trial, as far as I am aware of only one guild that does it on Xbox NA which is why the price is so expensive.
And no, the second most difficult skin in the game to get should be a huge concern. These cosmetics are only special because they are exclusive. If you let people glitch it then the special rewards cease to be special and players and guilds will not be motivated to progress the content. Casual players may not understand this but every MMO needs a healthy end-game. Not policing your most difficult content and allowing it to be cheesed is a direct threat to the heath of your end-game content. The same people who are trying to fix the bugs with summerset are not the same people who would go and look for people who exploited the trial so they can worry about both at the same time I would imagine.Apache_Kid wrote: »Girl_Number8 wrote: »offering to sell the skin for as low as 200k. This is incredibly suspicious because the going rate for a legit vas+2 carry on Xbox NA is currently 6 million gold. ~Your Quote
So basically you're upset because someone is underselling you~
Tbh a mini trial should be the least of their worries with the buggy mess Summerset made~
Not even in the absolute slightest. I am mad because people are glitching probably the second most difficult PvE fight in the game for the rewards and nothing is being done about it. I do not sell carries for the trial, as far as I am aware of only one guild that does it on Xbox NA which is why the price is so expensive.
And no, the second most difficult skin in the game to get should be a huge concern. These cosmetics are only special because they are exclusive. If you let people glitch it then the special rewards cease to be special and players and guilds will not be motivated to progress the content. Casual players may not understand this but every MMO needs a healthy end-game. Not policing your most difficult content and allowing it to be cheesed is a direct threat to the heath of your end-game content. The same people who are trying to fix the bugs with summerset are not the same people who would go and look for people who exploited the trial so they can worry about both at the same time I would imagine.
I am not a casual player in the slightest~ I just feel you are over reacting and I don't believe that one guild is selling runs, it is definitely more, I know it is. Though Zos does not have an issue with selling skins so there is no point pressing it but I have no sympathy for these complaints at all. For I have seen way too many trial guilds cheese their way through Vet Trials that it honestly is just a sad joke. Especially when you have worked hard on several platforms doing trials with your guild and others, only to watch what should of been a challenge be a giant let down~
Honestly they should make the Vet Trials easier for the masses, so it would discourage sales and cheating. If you're good then you should enjoy that, want a challenge then don't bring 12~
Have a salt free day~
Nope. Making content easier is the fastest road to making the game unbearably boring. If people want an easier game, they can go play Candycrush or Pokemon. This is a game made by adults, for adults, and it's not for people who can't handle working toward an adult challenge.
Girl_Number8 wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Girl_Number8 wrote: »offering to sell the skin for as low as 200k. This is incredibly suspicious because the going rate for a legit vas+2 carry on Xbox NA is currently 6 million gold. ~Your Quote
So basically you're upset because someone is underselling you~
Tbh a mini trial should be the least of their worries with the buggy mess Summerset made~
Not even in the absolute slightest. I am mad because people are glitching probably the second most difficult PvE fight in the game for the rewards and nothing is being done about it. I do not sell carries for the trial, as far as I am aware of only one guild that does it on Xbox NA which is why the price is so expensive.
And no, the second most difficult skin in the game to get should be a huge concern. These cosmetics are only special because they are exclusive. If you let people glitch it then the special rewards cease to be special and players and guilds will not be motivated to progress the content. Casual players may not understand this but every MMO needs a healthy end-game. Not policing your most difficult content and allowing it to be cheesed is a direct threat to the heath of your end-game content. The same people who are trying to fix the bugs with summerset are not the same people who would go and look for people who exploited the trial so they can worry about both at the same time I would imagine.Apache_Kid wrote: »Girl_Number8 wrote: »offering to sell the skin for as low as 200k. This is incredibly suspicious because the going rate for a legit vas+2 carry on Xbox NA is currently 6 million gold. ~Your Quote
So basically you're upset because someone is underselling you~
Tbh a mini trial should be the least of their worries with the buggy mess Summerset made~
Not even in the absolute slightest. I am mad because people are glitching probably the second most difficult PvE fight in the game for the rewards and nothing is being done about it. I do not sell carries for the trial, as far as I am aware of only one guild that does it on Xbox NA which is why the price is so expensive.
And no, the second most difficult skin in the game to get should be a huge concern. These cosmetics are only special because they are exclusive. If you let people glitch it then the special rewards cease to be special and players and guilds will not be motivated to progress the content. Casual players may not understand this but every MMO needs a healthy end-game. Not policing your most difficult content and allowing it to be cheesed is a direct threat to the heath of your end-game content. The same people who are trying to fix the bugs with summerset are not the same people who would go and look for people who exploited the trial so they can worry about both at the same time I would imagine.
I am not a casual player in the slightest~ I just feel you are over reacting and I don't believe that one guild is selling runs, it is definitely more, I know it is. Though Zos does not have an issue with selling skins so there is no point pressing it but I have no sympathy for these complaints at all. For I have seen way too many trial guilds cheese their way through Vet Trials that it honestly is just a sad joke. Especially when you have worked hard on several platforms doing trials with your guild and others, only to watch what should of been a challenge be a giant let down~
Honestly they should make the Vet Trials easier for the masses, so it would discourage sales and cheating. If you're good then you should enjoy that, want a challenge then don't bring 12~
Have a salt free day~
Nope. Making content easier is the fastest road to making the game unbearably boring. If people want an easier game, they can go play Candycrush or Pokemon. This is a game made by adults, for adults, and it's not for people who can't handle working toward an adult challenge.
Come on, the same can said for those seeking validation from challenging content, go play dark souls or nioh. This game was made for casuals and gamers who play videogames for fun and not self validation. Unbelievable.
HighKinlady wrote: »Keep reporting them in game .. it works
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey guys, just want to let you know we have seen this thread and have been looking into this. Thank you!
@ZOS_GinaBrunoApache_Kid wrote: »Furthermore, I have seen multiple instances of people offering to sell the skin for as low as 200k. This is incredibly suspicious because the going rate for a legit vas+2 carry on Xbox NA is currently 6 million gold.
Girl_Number8 wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Girl_Number8 wrote: »offering to sell the skin for as low as 200k. This is incredibly suspicious because the going rate for a legit vas+2 carry on Xbox NA is currently 6 million gold. ~Your Quote
So basically you're upset because someone is underselling you~
Tbh a mini trial should be the least of their worries with the buggy mess Summerset made~
Not even in the absolute slightest. I am mad because people are glitching probably the second most difficult PvE fight in the game for the rewards and nothing is being done about it. I do not sell carries for the trial, as far as I am aware of only one guild that does it on Xbox NA which is why the price is so expensive.
And no, the second most difficult skin in the game to get should be a huge concern. These cosmetics are only special because they are exclusive. If you let people glitch it then the special rewards cease to be special and players and guilds will not be motivated to progress the content. Casual players may not understand this but every MMO needs a healthy end-game. Not policing your most difficult content and allowing it to be cheesed is a direct threat to the heath of your end-game content. The same people who are trying to fix the bugs with summerset are not the same people who would go and look for people who exploited the trial so they can worry about both at the same time I would imagine.Apache_Kid wrote: »Girl_Number8 wrote: »offering to sell the skin for as low as 200k. This is incredibly suspicious because the going rate for a legit vas+2 carry on Xbox NA is currently 6 million gold. ~Your Quote
So basically you're upset because someone is underselling you~
Tbh a mini trial should be the least of their worries with the buggy mess Summerset made~
Not even in the absolute slightest. I am mad because people are glitching probably the second most difficult PvE fight in the game for the rewards and nothing is being done about it. I do not sell carries for the trial, as far as I am aware of only one guild that does it on Xbox NA which is why the price is so expensive.
And no, the second most difficult skin in the game to get should be a huge concern. These cosmetics are only special because they are exclusive. If you let people glitch it then the special rewards cease to be special and players and guilds will not be motivated to progress the content. Casual players may not understand this but every MMO needs a healthy end-game. Not policing your most difficult content and allowing it to be cheesed is a direct threat to the heath of your end-game content. The same people who are trying to fix the bugs with summerset are not the same people who would go and look for people who exploited the trial so they can worry about both at the same time I would imagine.
I am not a casual player in the slightest~ I just feel you are over reacting and I don't believe that one guild is selling runs, it is definitely more, I know it is. Though Zos does not have an issue with selling skins so there is no point pressing it but I have no sympathy for these complaints at all. For I have seen way too many trial guilds cheese their way through Vet Trials that it honestly is just a sad joke. Especially when you have worked hard on several platforms doing trials with your guild and others, only to watch what should of been a challenge be a giant let down~
Honestly they should make the Vet Trials easier for the masses, so it would discourage sales and cheating. If you're good then you should enjoy that, want a challenge then don't bring 12~
Have a salt free day~
Nope. Making content easier is the fastest road to making the game unbearably boring. If people want an easier game, they can go play Candycrush or Pokemon. This is a game made by adults, for adults, and it's not for people who can't handle working toward an adult challenge.
Come on, the same can said for those seeking validation from challenging content, go play dark souls or nioh. This game was made for casuals and gamers who play videogames for fun and not self validation. Unbelievable.
@ZOS_GinaBrunoApache_Kid wrote: »Furthermore, I have seen multiple instances of people offering to sell the skin for as low as 200k. This is incredibly suspicious because the going rate for a legit vas+2 carry on Xbox NA is currently 6 million gold.
This is what I don't understand. People are complaining about exploiters getting a skin, but then have zero issues of someone paying them in game gold to acquire the same same skin.
If ZoS intends to do "something" about the exploiters, the same punishment should be applied to those who got paid to "carry" someone through a vet dungeon.
The "we earned it" isn't a justifiable defense when people clearly are upset an exploit is preventing them from exploiting those willing to pay gold to run a trial.
Third party observer here as I've done neither the trial or paid to carry someone through it.
I find it troubling these egomaniacs are demanding ZoS do something about it while exploiting those who can't do it for themselves.
Girl_Number8 wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Girl_Number8 wrote: »offering to sell the skin for as low as 200k. This is incredibly suspicious because the going rate for a legit vas+2 carry on Xbox NA is currently 6 million gold. ~Your Quote
So basically you're upset because someone is underselling you~
Tbh a mini trial should be the least of their worries with the buggy mess Summerset made~
Not even in the absolute slightest. I am mad because people are glitching probably the second most difficult PvE fight in the game for the rewards and nothing is being done about it. I do not sell carries for the trial, as far as I am aware of only one guild that does it on Xbox NA which is why the price is so expensive.
And no, the second most difficult skin in the game to get should be a huge concern. These cosmetics are only special because they are exclusive. If you let people glitch it then the special rewards cease to be special and players and guilds will not be motivated to progress the content. Casual players may not understand this but every MMO needs a healthy end-game. Not policing your most difficult content and allowing it to be cheesed is a direct threat to the heath of your end-game content. The same people who are trying to fix the bugs with summerset are not the same people who would go and look for people who exploited the trial so they can worry about both at the same time I would imagine.Apache_Kid wrote: »Girl_Number8 wrote: »offering to sell the skin for as low as 200k. This is incredibly suspicious because the going rate for a legit vas+2 carry on Xbox NA is currently 6 million gold. ~Your Quote
So basically you're upset because someone is underselling you~
Tbh a mini trial should be the least of their worries with the buggy mess Summerset made~
Not even in the absolute slightest. I am mad because people are glitching probably the second most difficult PvE fight in the game for the rewards and nothing is being done about it. I do not sell carries for the trial, as far as I am aware of only one guild that does it on Xbox NA which is why the price is so expensive.
And no, the second most difficult skin in the game to get should be a huge concern. These cosmetics are only special because they are exclusive. If you let people glitch it then the special rewards cease to be special and players and guilds will not be motivated to progress the content. Casual players may not understand this but every MMO needs a healthy end-game. Not policing your most difficult content and allowing it to be cheesed is a direct threat to the heath of your end-game content. The same people who are trying to fix the bugs with summerset are not the same people who would go and look for people who exploited the trial so they can worry about both at the same time I would imagine.
I am not a casual player in the slightest~ I just feel you are over reacting and I don't believe that one guild is selling runs, it is definitely more, I know it is. Though Zos does not have an issue with selling skins so there is no point pressing it but I have no sympathy for these complaints at all. For I have seen way too many trial guilds cheese their way through Vet Trials that it honestly is just a sad joke. Especially when you have worked hard on several platforms doing trials with your guild and others, only to watch what should of been a challenge be a giant let down~
Honestly they should make the Vet Trials easier for the masses, so it would discourage sales and cheating. If you're good then you should enjoy that, want a challenge then don't bring 12~
Have a salt free day~
Nope. Making content easier is the fastest road to making the game unbearably boring. If people want an easier game, they can go play Candycrush or Pokemon. This is a game made by adults, for adults, and it's not for people who can't handle working toward an adult challenge.
Come on, the same can said for those seeking validation from challenging content, go play dark souls or nioh. This game was made for casuals and gamers who play videogames for fun and not self validation. Unbelievable.
nAS is plenty of challenge for the casuals and rewards them with an asylum weapon.
There is no need to make vAS easier.
Also as someone who is in a vAS + 2 progression group, no one is in it "for the skin". That's NOT the motivation. It's a nice thing to get at the end of it all, but doing the thing IS the reward for doing the thing.
XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »The_Brosteen wrote: »XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Damn. Still crickets over here from ZoS eh? What a shame
Yeah all i can say is that publicly, yes their are still crickets. Just waiting for them to post what they are gonna do about it.
Did a mod PM you about it or something? I haven't expected to hear anything cause they despise me on here lol
Yes a mod replied to a message i sent them with a very brief response.
Was the response "we're looking into it"?
Because thats just zenimax for "please stop complaining we dont care"
Not really going to discuss what was or wasnt said as its really not my position to do so. I feel if they wanted the community to know they would have said something publicly by now. However i do have faith they will do something about it, i just want them to make a statement publicly and inform us of the situation at hand.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Hey guys, just want to let you know we have seen this thread and have been looking into this. Thank you!
The_Brosteen wrote: »XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »The_Brosteen wrote: »XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Damn. Still crickets over here from ZoS eh? What a shame
Yeah all i can say is that publicly, yes their are still crickets. Just waiting for them to post what they are gonna do about it.
Did a mod PM you about it or something? I haven't expected to hear anything cause they despise me on here lol
Yes a mod replied to a message i sent them with a very brief response.
Was the response "we're looking into it"?
Because thats just zenimax for "please stop complaining we dont care"
Not really going to discuss what was or wasnt said as its really not my position to do so. I feel if they wanted the community to know they would have said something publicly by now. However i do have faith they will do something about it, i just want them to make a statement publicly and inform us of the situation at hand.
Oh my sweet summer child, wide eyed and bushy tailed, with so much hope and full of dreams.
They will be crushed.
Girl_Number8 wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Girl_Number8 wrote: »offering to sell the skin for as low as 200k. This is incredibly suspicious because the going rate for a legit vas+2 carry on Xbox NA is currently 6 million gold. ~Your Quote
So basically you're upset because someone is underselling you~
Tbh a mini trial should be the least of their worries with the buggy mess Summerset made~
Not even in the absolute slightest. I am mad because people are glitching probably the second most difficult PvE fight in the game for the rewards and nothing is being done about it. I do not sell carries for the trial, as far as I am aware of only one guild that does it on Xbox NA which is why the price is so expensive.
And no, the second most difficult skin in the game to get should be a huge concern. These cosmetics are only special because they are exclusive. If you let people glitch it then the special rewards cease to be special and players and guilds will not be motivated to progress the content. Casual players may not understand this but every MMO needs a healthy end-game. Not policing your most difficult content and allowing it to be cheesed is a direct threat to the heath of your end-game content. The same people who are trying to fix the bugs with summerset are not the same people who would go and look for people who exploited the trial so they can worry about both at the same time I would imagine.Apache_Kid wrote: »Girl_Number8 wrote: »offering to sell the skin for as low as 200k. This is incredibly suspicious because the going rate for a legit vas+2 carry on Xbox NA is currently 6 million gold. ~Your Quote
So basically you're upset because someone is underselling you~
Tbh a mini trial should be the least of their worries with the buggy mess Summerset made~
Not even in the absolute slightest. I am mad because people are glitching probably the second most difficult PvE fight in the game for the rewards and nothing is being done about it. I do not sell carries for the trial, as far as I am aware of only one guild that does it on Xbox NA which is why the price is so expensive.
And no, the second most difficult skin in the game to get should be a huge concern. These cosmetics are only special because they are exclusive. If you let people glitch it then the special rewards cease to be special and players and guilds will not be motivated to progress the content. Casual players may not understand this but every MMO needs a healthy end-game. Not policing your most difficult content and allowing it to be cheesed is a direct threat to the heath of your end-game content. The same people who are trying to fix the bugs with summerset are not the same people who would go and look for people who exploited the trial so they can worry about both at the same time I would imagine.
I am not a casual player in the slightest~ I just feel you are over reacting and I don't believe that one guild is selling runs, it is definitely more, I know it is. Though Zos does not have an issue with selling skins so there is no point pressing it but I have no sympathy for these complaints at all. For I have seen way too many trial guilds cheese their way through Vet Trials that it honestly is just a sad joke. Especially when you have worked hard on several platforms doing trials with your guild and others, only to watch what should of been a challenge be a giant let down~
Honestly they should make the Vet Trials easier for the masses, so it would discourage sales and cheating. If you're good then you should enjoy that, want a challenge then don't bring 12~
Have a salt free day~
Nope. Making content easier is the fastest road to making the game unbearably boring. If people want an easier game, they can go play Candycrush or Pokemon. This is a game made by adults, for adults, and it's not for people who can't handle working toward an adult challenge.
Come on, the same can said for those seeking validation from challenging content, go play dark souls or nioh. This game was made for casuals and gamers who play videogames for fun and not self validation. Unbelievable.
nAS is plenty of challenge for the casuals and rewards them with an asylum weapon.
There is no need to make vAS easier.
Also as someone who is in a vAS + 2 progression group, no one is in it "for the skin". That's NOT the motivation. It's a nice thing to get at the end of it all, but doing the thing IS the reward for doing the thing.
I wasn't advocating for anything of that nature. My post was a rebuttal to his claim that casuals should play candy crush. How many players participate in challenging content in eso is so easy to look up on consoles. It is not a majority here by a long shot.
XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »Can we keep this thread at the top?
The_Brosteen wrote: »XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »The_Brosteen wrote: »XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »Damn. Still crickets over here from ZoS eh? What a shame
Yeah all i can say is that publicly, yes their are still crickets. Just waiting for them to post what they are gonna do about it.
Did a mod PM you about it or something? I haven't expected to hear anything cause they despise me on here lol
Yes a mod replied to a message i sent them with a very brief response.
Was the response "we're looking into it"?
Because thats just zenimax for "please stop complaining we dont care"
Not really going to discuss what was or wasnt said as its really not my position to do so. I feel if they wanted the community to know they would have said something publicly by now. However i do have faith they will do something about it, i just want them to make a statement publicly and inform us of the situation at hand.
Oh my sweet summer child, wide eyed and bushy tailed, with so much hope and full of dreams.
They will be crushed.
:::pictures albatr0ss as a sweet summer child with wide eyes and a bushy tail:::