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People Still Exploiting vAS +2 on Xbox NA

  • XGCAlbatr0ss
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    Can we keep this thread at the top?
  • Apache_Kid
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    Can we keep this thread at the top?

    We can damn well try. Congrats on your clear btw. Well-deserved
  • XGCAlbatr0ss
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    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    Can we keep this thread at the top?

    We can damn well try. Congrats on your clear btw. Well-deserved

    Ty ty, Couldnt sleep the night we cleared lol. I was so amped.
  • Karivaa
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    I only wish Zos would be as strict with all the people glitching the trials as they were when they perma banned my EP friends on Xbox NA.
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    Karivaa wrote: »
    I only wish Zos would be as strict with all the people glitching the trials as they were when they perma banned my EP friends on Xbox NA.

    As long as they keep banning Titan Nighn i'll be happy :D:D:D:D
  • Karivaa
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    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    Karivaa wrote: »
    I only wish Zos would be as strict with all the people glitching the trials as they were when they perma banned my EP friends on Xbox NA.

    As long as they keep banning Titan Nighn i'll be happy :D:D:D:D

    #bringbackTitn and the others

  • swirve
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    Permaban exploiters...
  • The_Brosteen
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    Apache_Kid wrote: »
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    Damn. Still crickets over here from ZoS eh? What a shame

    Yeah all i can say is that publicly, yes their are still crickets. Just waiting for them to post what they are gonna do about it.

    Did a mod PM you about it or something? I haven't expected to hear anything cause they despise me on here lol

    Yes a mod replied to a message i sent them with a very brief response.

    Was the response "we're looking into it"?

    Because thats just zenimax for "please stop complaining we dont care"

  • XGCAlbatr0ss
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    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    Damn. Still crickets over here from ZoS eh? What a shame

    Yeah all i can say is that publicly, yes their are still crickets. Just waiting for them to post what they are gonna do about it.

    Did a mod PM you about it or something? I haven't expected to hear anything cause they despise me on here lol

    Yes a mod replied to a message i sent them with a very brief response.

    Was the response "we're looking into it"?

    Because thats just zenimax for "please stop complaining we dont care"

    Not really going to discuss what was or wasnt said as its really not my position to do so. I feel if they wanted the community to know they would have said something publicly by now. However i do have faith they will do something about it, i just want them to make a statement publicly and inform us of the situation at hand.
    Edited by XGCAlbatr0ss on August 20, 2018 4:54PM
  • shaielzafine
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    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    Damn. Still crickets over here from ZoS eh? What a shame

    Yeah all i can say is that publicly, yes their are still crickets. Just waiting for them to post what they are gonna do about it.

    Did a mod PM you about it or something? I haven't expected to hear anything cause they despise me on here lol

    Yes a mod replied to a message i sent them with a very brief response.

    Was the response "we're looking into it"?

    Because thats just zenimax for "please stop complaining we dont care"

    Isn't that what they always say :D They're aware and looking into it lololol
  • XGCAlbatr0ss
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    Still cant believe we havent had a single public response yet :/
  • Sevn
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    p00tx wrote: »
    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    offering to sell the skin for as low as 200k. This is incredibly suspicious because the going rate for a legit vas+2 carry on Xbox NA is currently 6 million gold. ~Your Quote

    So basically you're upset because someone is underselling you~ :)

    Tbh a mini trial should be the least of their worries with the buggy mess Summerset made~

    Not even in the absolute slightest. I am mad because people are glitching probably the second most difficult PvE fight in the game for the rewards and nothing is being done about it. I do not sell carries for the trial, as far as I am aware of only one guild that does it on Xbox NA which is why the price is so expensive.

    And no, the second most difficult skin in the game to get should be a huge concern. These cosmetics are only special because they are exclusive. If you let people glitch it then the special rewards cease to be special and players and guilds will not be motivated to progress the content. Casual players may not understand this but every MMO needs a healthy end-game. Not policing your most difficult content and allowing it to be cheesed is a direct threat to the heath of your end-game content. The same people who are trying to fix the bugs with summerset are not the same people who would go and look for people who exploited the trial so they can worry about both at the same time I would imagine.
    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    offering to sell the skin for as low as 200k. This is incredibly suspicious because the going rate for a legit vas+2 carry on Xbox NA is currently 6 million gold. ~Your Quote

    So basically you're upset because someone is underselling you~ :)

    Tbh a mini trial should be the least of their worries with the buggy mess Summerset made~

    Not even in the absolute slightest. I am mad because people are glitching probably the second most difficult PvE fight in the game for the rewards and nothing is being done about it. I do not sell carries for the trial, as far as I am aware of only one guild that does it on Xbox NA which is why the price is so expensive.

    And no, the second most difficult skin in the game to get should be a huge concern. These cosmetics are only special because they are exclusive. If you let people glitch it then the special rewards cease to be special and players and guilds will not be motivated to progress the content. Casual players may not understand this but every MMO needs a healthy end-game. Not policing your most difficult content and allowing it to be cheesed is a direct threat to the heath of your end-game content. The same people who are trying to fix the bugs with summerset are not the same people who would go and look for people who exploited the trial so they can worry about both at the same time I would imagine.

    I am not a casual player in the slightest~ I just feel you are over reacting and I don't believe that one guild is selling runs, it is definitely more, I know it is. Though Zos does not have an issue with selling skins so there is no point pressing it but I have no sympathy for these complaints at all. For I have seen way too many trial guilds cheese their way through Vet Trials that it honestly is just a sad joke. Especially when you have worked hard on several platforms doing trials with your guild and others, only to watch what should of been a challenge be a giant let down~

    Honestly they should make the Vet Trials easier for the masses, so it would discourage sales and cheating. If you're good then you should enjoy that, want a challenge then don't bring 12~ :)

    Have a salt free day~

    Nope. Making content easier is the fastest road to making the game unbearably boring. If people want an easier game, they can go play Candycrush or Pokemon. This is a game made by adults, for adults, and it's not for people who can't handle working toward an adult challenge.

    Come on, the same can said for those seeking validation from challenging content, go play dark souls or nioh. This game was made for casuals and gamers who play videogames for fun and not self validation. Unbelievable.
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  • Tannus15
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    Sevn wrote: »
    p00tx wrote: »
    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    offering to sell the skin for as low as 200k. This is incredibly suspicious because the going rate for a legit vas+2 carry on Xbox NA is currently 6 million gold. ~Your Quote

    So basically you're upset because someone is underselling you~ :)

    Tbh a mini trial should be the least of their worries with the buggy mess Summerset made~

    Not even in the absolute slightest. I am mad because people are glitching probably the second most difficult PvE fight in the game for the rewards and nothing is being done about it. I do not sell carries for the trial, as far as I am aware of only one guild that does it on Xbox NA which is why the price is so expensive.

    And no, the second most difficult skin in the game to get should be a huge concern. These cosmetics are only special because they are exclusive. If you let people glitch it then the special rewards cease to be special and players and guilds will not be motivated to progress the content. Casual players may not understand this but every MMO needs a healthy end-game. Not policing your most difficult content and allowing it to be cheesed is a direct threat to the heath of your end-game content. The same people who are trying to fix the bugs with summerset are not the same people who would go and look for people who exploited the trial so they can worry about both at the same time I would imagine.
    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    offering to sell the skin for as low as 200k. This is incredibly suspicious because the going rate for a legit vas+2 carry on Xbox NA is currently 6 million gold. ~Your Quote

    So basically you're upset because someone is underselling you~ :)

    Tbh a mini trial should be the least of their worries with the buggy mess Summerset made~

    Not even in the absolute slightest. I am mad because people are glitching probably the second most difficult PvE fight in the game for the rewards and nothing is being done about it. I do not sell carries for the trial, as far as I am aware of only one guild that does it on Xbox NA which is why the price is so expensive.

    And no, the second most difficult skin in the game to get should be a huge concern. These cosmetics are only special because they are exclusive. If you let people glitch it then the special rewards cease to be special and players and guilds will not be motivated to progress the content. Casual players may not understand this but every MMO needs a healthy end-game. Not policing your most difficult content and allowing it to be cheesed is a direct threat to the heath of your end-game content. The same people who are trying to fix the bugs with summerset are not the same people who would go and look for people who exploited the trial so they can worry about both at the same time I would imagine.

    I am not a casual player in the slightest~ I just feel you are over reacting and I don't believe that one guild is selling runs, it is definitely more, I know it is. Though Zos does not have an issue with selling skins so there is no point pressing it but I have no sympathy for these complaints at all. For I have seen way too many trial guilds cheese their way through Vet Trials that it honestly is just a sad joke. Especially when you have worked hard on several platforms doing trials with your guild and others, only to watch what should of been a challenge be a giant let down~

    Honestly they should make the Vet Trials easier for the masses, so it would discourage sales and cheating. If you're good then you should enjoy that, want a challenge then don't bring 12~ :)

    Have a salt free day~

    Nope. Making content easier is the fastest road to making the game unbearably boring. If people want an easier game, they can go play Candycrush or Pokemon. This is a game made by adults, for adults, and it's not for people who can't handle working toward an adult challenge.

    Come on, the same can said for those seeking validation from challenging content, go play dark souls or nioh. This game was made for casuals and gamers who play videogames for fun and not self validation. Unbelievable.

    nAS is plenty of challenge for the casuals and rewards them with an asylum weapon.
    There is no need to make vAS easier.

    Also as someone who is in a vAS + 2 progression group, no one is in it "for the skin". That's NOT the motivation. It's a nice thing to get at the end of it all, but doing the thing IS the reward for doing the thing.
  • HighKinlady
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    Keep reporting them in game .. it works ;)
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  • XGCAlbatr0ss
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    Keep reporting them in game .. it works ;)

    Yes it does and i have been, i just want a response from the team already!
  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    Hey guys, just want to let you know we have seen this thread and have been looking into this. Thank you!
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    Hallelujah!
  • XGCAlbatr0ss
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    Hey guys, just want to let you know we have seen this thread and have been looking into this. Thank you!

    Thank you! @ZOS_GinaBruno

    We appreciate all the hard work you guys do!
  • Violynne
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    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    Furthermore, I have seen multiple instances of people offering to sell the skin for as low as 200k. This is incredibly suspicious because the going rate for a legit vas+2 carry on Xbox NA is currently 6 million gold.
    @ZOS_GinaBruno

    This is what I don't understand. People are complaining about exploiters getting a skin, but then have zero issues of someone paying them in game gold to acquire the same same skin.

    If ZoS intends to do "something" about the exploiters, the same punishment should be applied to those who got paid to "carry" someone through a vet dungeon.

    The "we earned it" isn't a justifiable defense when people clearly are upset an exploit is preventing them from exploiting those willing to pay gold to run a trial.

    Third party observer here as I've done neither the trial or paid to carry someone through it.

    I find it troubling these egomaniacs are demanding ZoS do something about it while exploiting those who can't do it for themselves.
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    Thank you @ZOS_GinaBruno
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  • Universe
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    So many exploits and issues(PVP, PVE and trading) are being discussed on forum daily and only this issue is being addressed.
    ZOS prioritization is somewhat lacking.
    While I understand the importance of addressing it, other issues should be addressed too.
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  • LadyNalcarya
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    Sevn wrote: »
    p00tx wrote: »
    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    offering to sell the skin for as low as 200k. This is incredibly suspicious because the going rate for a legit vas+2 carry on Xbox NA is currently 6 million gold. ~Your Quote

    So basically you're upset because someone is underselling you~ :)

    Tbh a mini trial should be the least of their worries with the buggy mess Summerset made~

    Not even in the absolute slightest. I am mad because people are glitching probably the second most difficult PvE fight in the game for the rewards and nothing is being done about it. I do not sell carries for the trial, as far as I am aware of only one guild that does it on Xbox NA which is why the price is so expensive.

    And no, the second most difficult skin in the game to get should be a huge concern. These cosmetics are only special because they are exclusive. If you let people glitch it then the special rewards cease to be special and players and guilds will not be motivated to progress the content. Casual players may not understand this but every MMO needs a healthy end-game. Not policing your most difficult content and allowing it to be cheesed is a direct threat to the heath of your end-game content. The same people who are trying to fix the bugs with summerset are not the same people who would go and look for people who exploited the trial so they can worry about both at the same time I would imagine.
    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    offering to sell the skin for as low as 200k. This is incredibly suspicious because the going rate for a legit vas+2 carry on Xbox NA is currently 6 million gold. ~Your Quote

    So basically you're upset because someone is underselling you~ :)

    Tbh a mini trial should be the least of their worries with the buggy mess Summerset made~

    Not even in the absolute slightest. I am mad because people are glitching probably the second most difficult PvE fight in the game for the rewards and nothing is being done about it. I do not sell carries for the trial, as far as I am aware of only one guild that does it on Xbox NA which is why the price is so expensive.

    And no, the second most difficult skin in the game to get should be a huge concern. These cosmetics are only special because they are exclusive. If you let people glitch it then the special rewards cease to be special and players and guilds will not be motivated to progress the content. Casual players may not understand this but every MMO needs a healthy end-game. Not policing your most difficult content and allowing it to be cheesed is a direct threat to the heath of your end-game content. The same people who are trying to fix the bugs with summerset are not the same people who would go and look for people who exploited the trial so they can worry about both at the same time I would imagine.

    I am not a casual player in the slightest~ I just feel you are over reacting and I don't believe that one guild is selling runs, it is definitely more, I know it is. Though Zos does not have an issue with selling skins so there is no point pressing it but I have no sympathy for these complaints at all. For I have seen way too many trial guilds cheese their way through Vet Trials that it honestly is just a sad joke. Especially when you have worked hard on several platforms doing trials with your guild and others, only to watch what should of been a challenge be a giant let down~

    Honestly they should make the Vet Trials easier for the masses, so it would discourage sales and cheating. If you're good then you should enjoy that, want a challenge then don't bring 12~ :)

    Have a salt free day~

    Nope. Making content easier is the fastest road to making the game unbearably boring. If people want an easier game, they can go play Candycrush or Pokemon. This is a game made by adults, for adults, and it's not for people who can't handle working toward an adult challenge.

    Come on, the same can said for those seeking validation from challenging content, go play dark souls or nioh. This game was made for casuals and gamers who play videogames for fun and not self validation. Unbelievable.

    Eh. Hate to burst your bubble, but it was made for TES fans first and foremost: there's a ton of lore and the majority of content consists of quests. Not all TES fans like faceroll gameplay (just check how popular "hardcore" Skyrim mods are), so we have veteran group content.
    And there's nothing wrong with rewarding players for completing different tasks. You get dyes and boat furnishing for your fishing achievements, quests reward you with mementos, and dungeon/trial achievements give you skins. Hell, even Skyrim has achievements and rewards that require a bit of effort (killing a highest level dragon, becoming a thane in order to get a house etc).
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  • VaranisArano
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    Violynne wrote: »
    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    Furthermore, I have seen multiple instances of people offering to sell the skin for as low as 200k. This is incredibly suspicious because the going rate for a legit vas+2 carry on Xbox NA is currently 6 million gold.
    @ZOS_GinaBruno

    This is what I don't understand. People are complaining about exploiters getting a skin, but then have zero issues of someone paying them in game gold to acquire the same same skin.

    If ZoS intends to do "something" about the exploiters, the same punishment should be applied to those who got paid to "carry" someone through a vet dungeon.

    The "we earned it" isn't a justifiable defense when people clearly are upset an exploit is preventing them from exploiting those willing to pay gold to run a trial.

    Third party observer here as I've done neither the trial or paid to carry someone through it.

    I find it troubling these egomaniacs are demanding ZoS do something about it while exploiting those who can't do it for themselves.

    I...

    You really don't see a difference between getting carried with sub-par DPS though a trial where the trial is completed legitimately and getting carried with sub par DPS through a trial where the trial is completed via an exploit?

    One of those breaks the Terms of Service and Code of Conduct.

    The people who break the Terms of Service by completing a trial through an exploit are going to be punished for breaking the TOS by exploiting. Its got nothing to do with how hypocritical you think the people complaining about exploiters are.

    Getting carried isnt the problem. Exploiting the trial is the problem.
    Edited by VaranisArano on August 21, 2018 3:09PM
  • Sevn
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    Tannus15 wrote: »
    Sevn wrote: »
    p00tx wrote: »
    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    offering to sell the skin for as low as 200k. This is incredibly suspicious because the going rate for a legit vas+2 carry on Xbox NA is currently 6 million gold. ~Your Quote

    So basically you're upset because someone is underselling you~ :)

    Tbh a mini trial should be the least of their worries with the buggy mess Summerset made~

    Not even in the absolute slightest. I am mad because people are glitching probably the second most difficult PvE fight in the game for the rewards and nothing is being done about it. I do not sell carries for the trial, as far as I am aware of only one guild that does it on Xbox NA which is why the price is so expensive.

    And no, the second most difficult skin in the game to get should be a huge concern. These cosmetics are only special because they are exclusive. If you let people glitch it then the special rewards cease to be special and players and guilds will not be motivated to progress the content. Casual players may not understand this but every MMO needs a healthy end-game. Not policing your most difficult content and allowing it to be cheesed is a direct threat to the heath of your end-game content. The same people who are trying to fix the bugs with summerset are not the same people who would go and look for people who exploited the trial so they can worry about both at the same time I would imagine.
    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    offering to sell the skin for as low as 200k. This is incredibly suspicious because the going rate for a legit vas+2 carry on Xbox NA is currently 6 million gold. ~Your Quote

    So basically you're upset because someone is underselling you~ :)

    Tbh a mini trial should be the least of their worries with the buggy mess Summerset made~

    Not even in the absolute slightest. I am mad because people are glitching probably the second most difficult PvE fight in the game for the rewards and nothing is being done about it. I do not sell carries for the trial, as far as I am aware of only one guild that does it on Xbox NA which is why the price is so expensive.

    And no, the second most difficult skin in the game to get should be a huge concern. These cosmetics are only special because they are exclusive. If you let people glitch it then the special rewards cease to be special and players and guilds will not be motivated to progress the content. Casual players may not understand this but every MMO needs a healthy end-game. Not policing your most difficult content and allowing it to be cheesed is a direct threat to the heath of your end-game content. The same people who are trying to fix the bugs with summerset are not the same people who would go and look for people who exploited the trial so they can worry about both at the same time I would imagine.

    I am not a casual player in the slightest~ I just feel you are over reacting and I don't believe that one guild is selling runs, it is definitely more, I know it is. Though Zos does not have an issue with selling skins so there is no point pressing it but I have no sympathy for these complaints at all. For I have seen way too many trial guilds cheese their way through Vet Trials that it honestly is just a sad joke. Especially when you have worked hard on several platforms doing trials with your guild and others, only to watch what should of been a challenge be a giant let down~

    Honestly they should make the Vet Trials easier for the masses, so it would discourage sales and cheating. If you're good then you should enjoy that, want a challenge then don't bring 12~ :)

    Have a salt free day~

    Nope. Making content easier is the fastest road to making the game unbearably boring. If people want an easier game, they can go play Candycrush or Pokemon. This is a game made by adults, for adults, and it's not for people who can't handle working toward an adult challenge.

    Come on, the same can said for those seeking validation from challenging content, go play dark souls or nioh. This game was made for casuals and gamers who play videogames for fun and not self validation. Unbelievable.

    nAS is plenty of challenge for the casuals and rewards them with an asylum weapon.
    There is no need to make vAS easier.

    Also as someone who is in a vAS + 2 progression group, no one is in it "for the skin". That's NOT the motivation. It's a nice thing to get at the end of it all, but doing the thing IS the reward for doing the thing.

    I wasn't advocating for anything of that nature. My post was a rebuttal to his claim that casuals should play candy crush. How many players participate in challenging content in eso is so easy to look up on consoles. It is not a majority here by a long shot.
    Edited by Sevn on August 21, 2018 3:50PM
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  • The_Brosteen
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    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    Damn. Still crickets over here from ZoS eh? What a shame

    Yeah all i can say is that publicly, yes their are still crickets. Just waiting for them to post what they are gonna do about it.

    Did a mod PM you about it or something? I haven't expected to hear anything cause they despise me on here lol

    Yes a mod replied to a message i sent them with a very brief response.

    Was the response "we're looking into it"?

    Because thats just zenimax for "please stop complaining we dont care"

    Not really going to discuss what was or wasnt said as its really not my position to do so. I feel if they wanted the community to know they would have said something publicly by now. However i do have faith they will do something about it, i just want them to make a statement publicly and inform us of the situation at hand.

    Oh my sweet summer child, wide eyed and bushy tailed, with so much hope and full of dreams.

    They will be crushed.
    Edited by The_Brosteen on August 21, 2018 4:54PM
  • The_Brosteen
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    Hey guys, just want to let you know we have seen this thread and have been looking into this. Thank you!

    Woah its like I'm psychic or something
  • pteam
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    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    Damn. Still crickets over here from ZoS eh? What a shame

    Yeah all i can say is that publicly, yes their are still crickets. Just waiting for them to post what they are gonna do about it.

    Did a mod PM you about it or something? I haven't expected to hear anything cause they despise me on here lol

    Yes a mod replied to a message i sent them with a very brief response.

    Was the response "we're looking into it"?

    Because thats just zenimax for "please stop complaining we dont care"

    Not really going to discuss what was or wasnt said as its really not my position to do so. I feel if they wanted the community to know they would have said something publicly by now. However i do have faith they will do something about it, i just want them to make a statement publicly and inform us of the situation at hand.

    Oh my sweet summer child, wide eyed and bushy tailed, with so much hope and full of dreams.

    They will be crushed.


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  • LadyNalcarya
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    Sevn wrote: »
    Tannus15 wrote: »
    Sevn wrote: »
    p00tx wrote: »
    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    offering to sell the skin for as low as 200k. This is incredibly suspicious because the going rate for a legit vas+2 carry on Xbox NA is currently 6 million gold. ~Your Quote

    So basically you're upset because someone is underselling you~ :)

    Tbh a mini trial should be the least of their worries with the buggy mess Summerset made~

    Not even in the absolute slightest. I am mad because people are glitching probably the second most difficult PvE fight in the game for the rewards and nothing is being done about it. I do not sell carries for the trial, as far as I am aware of only one guild that does it on Xbox NA which is why the price is so expensive.

    And no, the second most difficult skin in the game to get should be a huge concern. These cosmetics are only special because they are exclusive. If you let people glitch it then the special rewards cease to be special and players and guilds will not be motivated to progress the content. Casual players may not understand this but every MMO needs a healthy end-game. Not policing your most difficult content and allowing it to be cheesed is a direct threat to the heath of your end-game content. The same people who are trying to fix the bugs with summerset are not the same people who would go and look for people who exploited the trial so they can worry about both at the same time I would imagine.
    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    offering to sell the skin for as low as 200k. This is incredibly suspicious because the going rate for a legit vas+2 carry on Xbox NA is currently 6 million gold. ~Your Quote

    So basically you're upset because someone is underselling you~ :)

    Tbh a mini trial should be the least of their worries with the buggy mess Summerset made~

    Not even in the absolute slightest. I am mad because people are glitching probably the second most difficult PvE fight in the game for the rewards and nothing is being done about it. I do not sell carries for the trial, as far as I am aware of only one guild that does it on Xbox NA which is why the price is so expensive.

    And no, the second most difficult skin in the game to get should be a huge concern. These cosmetics are only special because they are exclusive. If you let people glitch it then the special rewards cease to be special and players and guilds will not be motivated to progress the content. Casual players may not understand this but every MMO needs a healthy end-game. Not policing your most difficult content and allowing it to be cheesed is a direct threat to the heath of your end-game content. The same people who are trying to fix the bugs with summerset are not the same people who would go and look for people who exploited the trial so they can worry about both at the same time I would imagine.

    I am not a casual player in the slightest~ I just feel you are over reacting and I don't believe that one guild is selling runs, it is definitely more, I know it is. Though Zos does not have an issue with selling skins so there is no point pressing it but I have no sympathy for these complaints at all. For I have seen way too many trial guilds cheese their way through Vet Trials that it honestly is just a sad joke. Especially when you have worked hard on several platforms doing trials with your guild and others, only to watch what should of been a challenge be a giant let down~

    Honestly they should make the Vet Trials easier for the masses, so it would discourage sales and cheating. If you're good then you should enjoy that, want a challenge then don't bring 12~ :)

    Have a salt free day~

    Nope. Making content easier is the fastest road to making the game unbearably boring. If people want an easier game, they can go play Candycrush or Pokemon. This is a game made by adults, for adults, and it's not for people who can't handle working toward an adult challenge.

    Come on, the same can said for those seeking validation from challenging content, go play dark souls or nioh. This game was made for casuals and gamers who play videogames for fun and not self validation. Unbelievable.

    nAS is plenty of challenge for the casuals and rewards them with an asylum weapon.
    There is no need to make vAS easier.

    Also as someone who is in a vAS + 2 progression group, no one is in it "for the skin". That's NOT the motivation. It's a nice thing to get at the end of it all, but doing the thing IS the reward for doing the thing.

    I wasn't advocating for anything of that nature. My post was a rebuttal to his claim that casuals should play candy crush. How many players participate in challenging content in eso is so easy to look up on consoles. It is not a majority here by a long shot.

    Achievement stats are deceiving. According to Steam stats, only 57,9% of Skyrim SE players managed to finish the tutorial mission, but that doesnt mean that the game isnt accessible enough or anything.
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    Can we keep this thread at the top?

    let it die they fixed it already in last patch
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    pteam wrote: »
    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    Apache_Kid wrote: »
    Damn. Still crickets over here from ZoS eh? What a shame

    Yeah all i can say is that publicly, yes their are still crickets. Just waiting for them to post what they are gonna do about it.

    Did a mod PM you about it or something? I haven't expected to hear anything cause they despise me on here lol

    Yes a mod replied to a message i sent them with a very brief response.

    Was the response "we're looking into it"?

    Because thats just zenimax for "please stop complaining we dont care"

    Not really going to discuss what was or wasnt said as its really not my position to do so. I feel if they wanted the community to know they would have said something publicly by now. However i do have faith they will do something about it, i just want them to make a statement publicly and inform us of the situation at hand.

    Oh my sweet summer child, wide eyed and bushy tailed, with so much hope and full of dreams.

    They will be crushed.


    :::pictures albatr0ss as a sweet summer child with wide eyes and a bushy tail:::

    lmao shut it @pteam. Maybe ill make my argonian have a bushy tail for tonights run just for you. hahaha
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