vMA Stage 5

Oakclaw · August 2018

Hello,

I’m about to attempt stage 5. I’ve watched several videos but I still have one question I can’t find the answer to.

If the trolls destroy the platforms, do they respawn each round? For example, if I miss a troll during one of the early rounds and he destroys a couple of islands, will they come back for the boss round?

If they don’t, would it be smart to wipe and start the round over if you miss one?

Thanks

XxCaLxX · August 2018

Each
Platform respawns each round. If you miss a troll it’s really no big deal until last round.

notyuu · August 2018

I also have a question...how do you deal with the arrow spam?
you can't see it coming [dark arena + dark arrows = basically invisible] so you can't dodge them
you can' t kill the archers fast enough to avoid getting pincushioned
you can't block them..as that just drains all your stam..then you die
you can't reflefct them if you're not a DK...
so..what do?

jcm2606 · August 2018

notyuu wrote: »

I also have a question...how do you deal with the arrow spam?
you can't see it coming [dark arena + dark arrows = basically invisible] so you can't dodge them
you can' t kill the archers fast enough to avoid getting pincushioned
you can't block them..as that just drains all your stam..then you die
you can't reflefct them if you're not a DK...
so..what do?

The only real solution is honestly just to be aware of any ranged adds (on my Stamina Sorc, archers weren't that bad, it was the frost mages that caused a headache in there) that spawn and deal with them as quick as possible.

If you're having issues on the final boss, know that you control the pace of the fight. Most of the fight is based on her health. She'll spawn a specific set of adds at certain percentages of health (can't remember the exact percentages, unfortunately). If you see any adds spawn, you can jump off the boss and go after the adds, and no more will spawn so long as you aren't continuing to attack the boss.

Agenericname · August 2018

notyuu wrote: »

I also have a question...how do you deal with the arrow spam?
you can't see it coming [dark arena + dark arrows = basically invisible] so you can't dodge them
you can' t kill the archers fast enough to avoid getting pincushioned
you can't block them..as that just drains all your stam..then you die
you can't reflefct them if you're not a DK...
so..what do?

Stage 5 was difficult for me. I gather that it's difficult for quite a few. The way that I dealt with the ranged nasties was to anticipate them and then use the defensive sigil.

boombazookajd · August 2018

notyuu wrote: »

I also have a question...how do you deal with the arrow spam?
you can't see it coming [dark arena + dark arrows = basically invisible] so you can't dodge them
you can' t kill the archers fast enough to avoid getting pincushioned
you can't block them..as that just drains all your stam..then you die
you can't reflefct them if you're not a DK...
so..what do?

@notyuu play around with the brightness/contrast of you settings. This has helped me a lot on stage 7 which is also a very dark stage.

If you're having issues with the ranged adds you can grab the defensive sigil which acts similar to a DK's wings. You do want to deal with the ranged adds as soon as possible, they don't have tremendous health

FrancisCrawford · August 2018

Can the ranged adds be chained in?

Septimus_Magna · August 2018

notyuu wrote: »

I also have a question...how do you deal with the arrow spam?
you can't see it coming [dark arena + dark arrows = basically invisible] so you can't dodge them
you can' t kill the archers fast enough to avoid getting pincushioned
you can't block them..as that just drains all your stam..then you die
you can't reflefct them if you're not a DK...
so..what do?

Defensive Sigil helps a lot, I think it reflects projectiles for a while.

notyuu · August 2018

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

notyuu wrote: »

I also have a question...how do you deal with the arrow spam?
you can't see it coming [dark arena + dark arrows = basically invisible] so you can't dodge them
you can' t kill the archers fast enough to avoid getting pincushioned
you can't block them..as that just drains all your stam..then you die
you can't reflefct them if you're not a DK...
so..what do?

Defensive Sigil helps a lot, I think it reflects projectiles for a while.

yeah, then it eventually wears off, then more spawn, then I die....

bloodthirstyvampire · August 2018

I'm doing frozen blood on my stamblade, I get to the final round, but I just Can't kill the giant boss.

nickl413 · August 2018

notyuu wrote: »

I also have a question...how do you deal with the arrow spam?
you can't see it coming [dark arena + dark arrows = basically invisible] so you can't dodge them
you can' t kill the archers fast enough to avoid getting pincushioned
you can't block them..as that just drains all your stam..then you die
you can't reflefct them if you're not a DK...
so..what do?

I usually go for them first. Stay shielded if you're magicka. I like to use something like destructive touch on annoying adds to knock them on their butt for a second. The templar javelin works well. Anything that will knock them down or stun them to keep stop them from sniping you for a couple of seconds. On that round, the only higher priority add is the lady with the dog, ice mage I think. Well, besides the trolls.

Massive_Stain · August 2018

Oakclaw wrote: »

Hello,

I’m about to attempt stage 5. I’ve watched several videos but I still have one question I can’t find the answer to.

If the trolls destroy the platforms, do they respawn each round? For example, if I miss a troll during one of the early rounds and he destroys a couple of islands, will they come back for the boss round?

If they don’t, would it be smart to wipe and start the round over if you miss one?

Thanks

Actually not a huge deal but you must burn an extra add if that happens (neried). The last round is doable with 1 pad missing, but you should get in the habit of keeping all pads available in general as it's the focus mechanic of stage 5.

Troneon · August 2018

The range of the one shot BS blast is huge and laggy.

Be far away before it even happens.

Troneon · August 2018

bloodthirstyvampire wrote: »

I'm doing frozen blood on my stamblade, I get to the final round, but I just Can't kill the giant boss.

It's the worst round for lag/bugs/one shots.

Focus the adds especially the ranged attack one's and always kill the troll.

Then focus the boss. If you do it any other way around, you will die before the boss is dead to adds/platform.

So..

Kill Troll
Kill Ranged Adds
Nuke Boss
Be far away from platform before blast animation even begins
Kill Troll
Kill Ranged Adds
Nuke Boss
Repeat and rinse.

idk · August 2018

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Can the ranged adds be chained in?

Pretty sure there are no chains in that round. None that I recall. Second to last arena has a few NPCs with chains.

Oakclaw · August 2018

Massive_Stain wrote: »

Oakclaw wrote: »

Hello,

I’m about to attempt stage 5. I’ve watched several videos but I still have one question I can’t find the answer to.

If the trolls destroy the platforms, do they respawn each round? For example, if I miss a troll during one of the early rounds and he destroys a couple of islands, will they come back for the boss round?

If they don’t, would it be smart to wipe and start the round over if you miss one?

Thanks

Actually not a huge deal but you must burn an extra add if that happens (neried). The last round is doable with 1 pad missing, but you should get in the habit of keeping all pads available in general as it's the focus mechanic of stage 5.

Thanks for the advice. I just cleared it. I got to the boss without much trouble but things got tough after that. I probably died 10-15 times (thought it would be way more actually) before I completed it.

nickl413 · August 2018

Oakclaw wrote: »

Massive_Stain wrote: »

Oakclaw wrote: »

Hello,

I’m about to attempt stage 5. I’ve watched several videos but I still have one question I can’t find the answer to.

If the trolls destroy the platforms, do they respawn each round? For example, if I miss a troll during one of the early rounds and he destroys a couple of islands, will they come back for the boss round?

If they don’t, would it be smart to wipe and start the round over if you miss one?

Thanks

Actually not a huge deal but you must burn an extra add if that happens (neried). The last round is doable with 1 pad missing, but you should get in the habit of keeping all pads available in general as it's the focus mechanic of stage 5.

Thanks for the advice. I just cleared it. I got to the boss without much trouble but things got tough after that. I probably died 10-15 times (thought it would be way more actually) before I completed it.

If you thought those archers were bad, wait til you get to stage 7

boombazookajd · August 2018

nickl413 wrote: »

Oakclaw wrote: »

Massive_Stain wrote: »

Oakclaw wrote: »

Hello,

I’m about to attempt stage 5. I’ve watched several videos but I still have one question I can’t find the answer to.

If the trolls destroy the platforms, do they respawn each round? For example, if I miss a troll during one of the early rounds and he destroys a couple of islands, will they come back for the boss round?

If they don’t, would it be smart to wipe and start the round over if you miss one?

Thanks

Actually not a huge deal but you must burn an extra add if that happens (neried). The last round is doable with 1 pad missing, but you should get in the habit of keeping all pads available in general as it's the focus mechanic of stage 5.

Thanks for the advice. I just cleared it. I got to the boss without much trouble but things got tough after that. I probably died 10-15 times (thought it would be way more actually) before I completed it.

If you thought those archers were bad, wait til you get to stage 7

If you thought this round was bad, next round is worse

LadyLethalla · August 2018

idk wrote: »

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Can the ranged adds be chained in?

Pretty sure there are no chains in that round. None that I recall. Second to last arena has a few NPCs with chains.

I think he's referring to using a DK's chains?

N00BxV1 · August 2018

IMO the argonian poison stage is the worst. I mean why else would they give the Argonian Behemoth bust as a reward for completing vma? lol

Edit: Stage 7

LadyLethalla · August 2018

N00BxV1 wrote: »

IMO the argonian poison stage is the worst. I mean why else would they give the Argonian Behemoth bust as a reward for completing vma? lol

So you can moon it every time you go to your house...

AbysmalGhul · August 2018

Bash the troll trying to break the island and then burn down adds. Light weave force pulse or imbue weapon on adds. They will melt fast.

N00BxV1 · August 2018

LadyLethalla wrote: »

N00BxV1 wrote: »

IMO the argonian poison stage is the worst. I mean why else would they give the Argonian Behemoth bust as a reward for completing vma? lol

So you can moon it every time you go to your house...

Oh I do more than just moon it. Those sensitive to words and gestures should stay clear because ears will bleed and feelings will shatter.

generalmyrick · August 2018

notyuu wrote: »

I also have a question...how do you deal with the arrow spam?
you can't see it coming [dark arena + dark arrows = basically invisible] so you can't dodge them
you can' t kill the archers fast enough to avoid getting pincushioned
you can't block them..as that just drains all your stam..then you die
you can't reflefct them if you're not a DK...
so..what do?

i solved this by just kiting all the adds running platform to platform taking them out first.