Dear random pugs stop blaming tanks and being abusive to us in random cues
SeranaVaettir
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As my experiance as a tank in a dungon i find if one cues in a dungon even on normal with random people that at least half of them have been with jerks. Many times its with people much lower then me as im cp 539 for some of them they have this mindset if your tank does not use one hand one shield your not a tank and get called a fake tank. I use duel wield and bow. My health is 33357 with out an added 5000 food buff for health. health recovey is way high 2000 at stage 4 vamp with out food buff. my taunt is obviosly ranged but still a taunt. Ive actucally tanked almost every dungon normal as a bow duel wield tank. i do not taunt trash. if you cant take care of the trash dont blame the tank and dont expect them to taunt all the trash either. if your dying in dungones cause you you dont have the health or food buffs to surive a one shot that is not my fault. im supposed to be that last one standing and if you dead and im still going and last one down that means i actually am a tank. if you cant take the time to work with others talk to them respectfully instead of trash them and be abusive. then please do not cue do not subject other to your abuse. one last thing not all tanks or players in eso are men or males some of us like me are females be respectful. Edited note.. It is the enlist mentality couple with the abusiveness is why I have decided I will never cue with random people for any dungon even normal mode ever again. Go with your friends or your guildmates instead you will have less issue smoother runs.
Edited by SeranaVaettir on August 18, 2018 12:36PM 3
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭As long as you are taunting and holding aggro on the boss and staying alive, I'll be fine with you as a tank.
But some crowd control options might be nice to have if your group is struggling. Even Caltrops will do in a pinch to group up and slow mobs.6 -
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✭✭✭✭✭In Normal Dungeons if the DPS are dying it's either cause they don't have a self heal or a 3rd DPS queued as a Healer so there's no group Healing. And that's their fault, not the Tank's.
What class are you? Granted yes a Tank using DPS weapons is odd and cause for suspicion, but if your stats are Tanky and you indeed use some kind of a Taunt to keep aggro then you're still doing your job. You don't deserve the hate but understand where these haters are coming from. It's become established that the Tank is pretty much the defacto leader of the run. So if *** hits fans the anger is dumped on us (you) by default. I've been hated on as a Healer before too though, cause it's rarely ever the DPS's fault right? lol
Also that last part? Try not to let it get to you, it's just the way society has taught us to assume gender of a stranger who's identity is anonymous. If you're not going to voice chat so they can hear that you're female then most people will by default refer to you as a He. Most don't mean it as a disrespect, it's just how it is.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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SeranaVaettir✭✭✭subpar troll attempt, but i appreciate the effort
subpar troll effort? im serious. some of them have anger issues get abusive people dont have to be subjected to that. alot of the times it is with new lower level players and thats an bad example for them the way i look at it. I took a hard dungon with all new players cause we were able to take the time speak and figure out the issue. most of the time its lack of certain amount of health lack of dps or to low of level for the said dungon . many dont know better or run dungon first time.2 -
ThePlayer✭✭✭✭You are a fake tank!, you cant taunt everything just with "Inner Fire", tank have support group and you miss a important skill "Pierce Armor" that penetrates the physical and spell resistance of bosses or mobs.
Another important skill that you lack is "Absorb Magic" and probably, being you at NB tank, do not use as Ultimate "Aggressive Horn".
In my opion, in most normal dungeons you can go just fine, nobody can tell you anything;
Already from DLC dungeons normal you should start having problems, in that case and often you have to be able to taunt not only the boss but also adds and in some cases even some mobs.
In the most of dungeons vet you would be kicked after the first fight probably.
Now i understand that you want to play as you please and like, and you do well, but sometimes you have to adapt to the game if you want to advance in the contest.10 -
SeranaVaettir✭✭✭im a warden obviously stamina based i run all heavy armor bee keepers and ember shild sets with moster piece one for stamina recovery and one for health . i also do alot of players vs in cryaidill with the same armor set. i can either stand in place or be mobial as a tank im very fast as well for a tank.0
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SeranaVaettir✭✭✭my health recovery in stage one vamp is like 3600 and 2500 in stage four if i use a buff
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✭✭If a group is being annoying to you as tank, you have the ultimate power: leaving. Let them find another tank. It's more effective than you think!5 -
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✭SeranaVaettir wrote: »if your tank does not use one hand one shield your not a tank and get called a fake tank. I use duel wield and bow. My health is 33357 with out an added 5000 food buff for health. health recovey is way high 2000 at stage 4 vamp with out food buff. my taunt is obviosly ranged but still a taunt.
Your character health, health recovery, and being a vampire as a tank are fine. As you say, you are using dual wield and bow. Folks see that and think DPS. Kind of hard to change how people think when pretty much every dual wield and bow character they see in a group dungeon is a DPS. You might just have to ignore the chat. One of my characters is a Dragonknight vampire with one hand and shield. I never get accused of being a fake tank when I play that character. I also have not found that half of the folks in PUGs are jerks. Most folks I PUG with are decent, IMO.
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SeranaVaettir✭✭✭You are a fake tank!, you cant taunt everything just with "Inner Fire", tank have support group and you miss a important skill "Pierce Armor" that penetrates the physical and spell resistance of bosses or mobs.
Another important skill that you lack is "Absorb Magic" and probably, being you at NB tank, do not use as Ultimate "Aggressive Horn".
In my opion, in most normal dungeons you can go just fine, nobody can tell you anything;
Already from DLC dungeons normal you should start having problems, in that case and often you have to be able to taunt not only the boss but also adds and in some cases even some mobs.
In the most of dungeons vet you would be kicked after the first fight probably.
Now i understand that you want to play as you please and like, and you do well, but sometimes you have to adapt to the game if you want to advance in the contest.
funny my guild mates think i do just find even in the dlc dungons as a tank a taunt is a taunt dont matter. when a you think every thing should be to a set form or formula you no longer want to accpet a challenge ive even completed vet dungons with this build as a tank. the issue isnt me.1 -
SeranaVaettir✭✭✭im to the point people like that that call me fake or get abusive or whine i just leave add them to ignore so i dont have to cue with them again.
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SeranaVaettir✭✭✭SeranaVaettir wrote: »im a warden obviously stamina based i run all heavy armor bee keepers and ember shild sets with moster piece one for stamina recovery and one for health . i also do alot of players vs in cryaidill with the same armor set. i can either stand in place or be mobial as a tank im very fast as well for a tank.
so completing evey almost every dungon as tank makes me a nb ? far from it .
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✭✭✭✭✭Nb = Nightblade. He thought you were a Nightblade#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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ThePlayer✭✭✭✭With the Warden begin to use "Silver Leash", "Pierce Armor" and"Inner Fire" + Ultimate "Aggressive Horn" and you will have taken the first step to becoming a good tank.
In this game you can not combine pvp with pve, different gear, different skills and different CP.
Start using addons for gear and skills swaps, i recommend it1 -
SeranaVaettir✭✭✭You are a fake tank!, you cant taunt everything just with "Inner Fire", tank have support group and you miss a important skill "Pierce Armor" that penetrates the physical and spell resistance of bosses or mobs.
Another important skill that you lack is "Absorb Magic" and probably, being you at NB tank, do not use as Ultimate "Aggressive Horn".
In my opion, in most normal dungeons you can go just fine, nobody can tell you anything;
Already from DLC dungeons normal you should start having problems, in that case and often you have to be able to taunt not only the boss but also adds and in some cases even some mobs.
In the most of dungeons vet you would be kicked after the first fight probably.
Now i understand that you want to play as you please and like, and you do well, but sometimes you have to adapt to the game if you want to advance in the contest.
i add people like you to ignore.2 -
SeranaVaettir✭✭✭i use a differant set up and it works for me. thing is people get bent out of shape if you find a way to deviate from the norm even if it is succesful
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✭SeranaVaettir wrote: »You are a fake tank!, you cant taunt everything just with "Inner Fire", tank have support group and you miss a important skill "Pierce Armor" that penetrates the physical and spell resistance of bosses or mobs.
Another important skill that you lack is "Absorb Magic" and probably, being you at NB tank, do not use as Ultimate "Aggressive Horn".
In my opion, in most normal dungeons you can go just fine, nobody can tell you anything;
Already from DLC dungeons normal you should start having problems, in that case and often you have to be able to taunt not only the boss but also adds and in some cases even some mobs.
In the most of dungeons vet you would be kicked after the first fight probably.
Now i understand that you want to play as you please and like, and you do well, but sometimes you have to adapt to the game if you want to advance in the contest.
i add people like you to ignore.
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✭✭✭✭✭I run a Nightblade tank, a Templar tank and a Warden tank. I’m curious to know what your resistance is like without a shield.
Also I’m wondering if your set up proves the point that a lot of people have: tanks are useless, just run all dps.Edited by max_only on August 18, 2018 1:32AM#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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SeranaVaettir✭✭✭like 24000 and 21000 with out the warder resitance abilty which i do use and it applys to the whole group that beside the added spell resistance from ember shild passive of heavy attacks .
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Xerge✭✭✭Tanks like this are insta-vote kick. Best part is it's obvious so the vote-yes is pretty much guaranteed. I don't even say a word; it just happens now.
Thank ZOS for telling to you play your way but not provide all the tools to so. If they wanted to have more than one flavor of tanking gameplay they would balance for it; currently as it stands they do not.
For the most part ESO is a one trick pony.
All stam dps will have PI, EH, and Caltrops on their backbar. Frontbar follows similar formatting.8 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I'm not so sure if this topic says more about the state of tanking in ESO, the dungeon designs, or ESO's player base.
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SeranaVaettir✭✭✭see thats the issue people dont want to work with others all they care about is the xp and their egos . when i tank for my friends or my guild that i run i never have the issues i have cueing in random cues. but then again they are compentant unlike some of the randoms i cue with.2
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✭I'm not so sure if this topic says more about the state of tanking in ESO, the dungeon designs, or ESO's player base.
All of the above, sir.SeranaVaettir wrote: »max resistance for a dungon is 33000 i think
32k
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GawdSB✭✭✭✭✭As long as you're taunting and can hold aggro and not dying from the boss I really don't care. You having no crowd control or debuffs for the bosses just means you're a crappy and lazy tank, and in most dungeons only the bare minimum is needed so whatever
So sure, you aren't a fake tank or anything but you're still being stubborn and only doing one part of a tanks job. I don't see any problem with people letting you know how bad of a job you're doing especially if you have this attitude.12 -
SeranaVaettir✭✭✭to me when the game becomes a set formula one has to adhere to then it becomes boring.2
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SeranaVaettir✭✭✭SeranaVaettir wrote: »if your tank does not use one hand one shield your not a tank and get called a fake tank. I use duel wield and bow. My health is 33357 with out an added 5000 food buff for health. health recovey is way high 2000 at stage 4 vamp with out food buff. my taunt is obviosly ranged but still a taunt.
Your character health, health recovery, and being a vampire as a tank are fine. As you say, you are using dual wield and bow. Folks see that and think DPS. Kind of hard to change how people think when pretty much every dual wield and bow character they see in a group dungeon is a DPS. You might just have to ignore the chat. One of my characters is a Dragonknight vampire with one hand and shield. I never get accused of being a fake tank when I play that character. I also have not found that half of the folks in PUGs are jerks. Most folks I PUG with are decent, IMO.
some of them are cool the ones that are jerks im just adding to ignore list now so i dont have to cue with them ever again . some of the pugs are new players which i dont have an issue with .1
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