XP scrolls often expire while logged off

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I've been watching this for a while now and its an undeniable fact. Do you have to completely log out of the game?
They are expiring while logged out to character select screen.
  • testd4n1
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    cheops wrote: »
    I've been watching this for a while now and its an undeniable fact. Do you have to completely log out of the game?
    They are expiring while logged out to character select screen.

    Highly unlikely. Food/Drink buffs and XP Potions/Scrolls have their timers stop as soon as you log out. Make sure you don't leave your character AFK, as this will keep the timer going down.
  • cheops
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    It isnt highly unlikely, its a repeatedly observed fact
  • Tasear
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    Like the crown scrolls?
  • HiLyfe808
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    That doesn't happen to me. You should put in a ticket cause something is wrong.
  • Nestor
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    I have had my suspicions on this. I admit I dont always check the amount of time I have left. But, it seems that if I dont wait the 10 seconds to log out, the game does decriment the timer long after I closed the game.
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  • OtarTheMad
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    I have noticed this too with a new character I am power leveling. I thought that it might have been me just not paying attention to how much time I got left but happens a good amount of the time.
  • testd4n1
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    Nestor wrote: »
    I have had my suspicions on this. I admit I dont always check the amount of time I have left. But, it seems that if I dont wait the 10 seconds to log out, the game does decriment the timer long after I closed the game.

    This would actually explain why I've never experienced it. I've rarely, if ever, not waited the 10 seconds to log off normally since I'll usually log onto my main after I'm done putting levels on an alt.
  • Davor
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    cheops wrote: »
    It isnt highly unlikely, its a repeatedly observed fact

    I love it when people say something and it's fact without proof. While you might not have any pics, you could have at least explained what happened to you. Not sure why you seem miffed. After all you never explained and said how it was done.
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  • Jhalin
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    I logged of my tank way back when after leveling it during jester festival. Logged back in almost a year later, the pie exp bonus was still active.

    You’ve found a bug if your scrolls are timing out without you being on the character
    Edited by Jhalin on August 15, 2018 7:16PM
  • Raraaku
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    That was going to be my question: Do you wait the full 10 seconds to logout/quit. Not sure if it works on the logout if you're logging onto a different character; however, if you're force quitting then your still logged onto the server. Which means your account will be logged once the AFK timer expires, which is rather lengthy (10+ minutes).
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  • cheops
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    Davor wrote: »
    cheops wrote: »
    It isnt highly unlikely, its a repeatedly observed fact

    I love it when people say something and it's fact without proof. While you might not have any pics, you could have at least explained what happened to you. Not sure why you seem miffed. After all you never explained and said how it was done.

    lol! - what an extraordinary response...

    Its simple, i note the time remaining then log out normally to the character select screen waiting for the process to complete and several times when i log the alt back in later the XP buff has gone.

    seems pretty straightforward to me...
  • DedEmbryonicCell19
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    Wait 10 seconds for you to log out, problem solved .. people seriously can't wait 10 seconds to be logged off?

    I've never had this problem ..
  • cheops
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    Wait 10 seconds for you to log out, problem solved .. people seriously can't wait 10 seconds to be logged off?

    I've never had this problem ..

    sigh...
    I dont think I could have made it any clearer...
  • fgoron2000
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    the thing is that if you bypass the 10 seconds, you get out of the game, BUT, your character is still logged in, and that'll eat up the scroll...so if you have a scroll, or any kinda buff that you don't wanna waste, you'll need to wait for the 10 seconds (which for me is usually about 5-10 seconds after it counts to 0), or else the buff will still count down for the character, because the character is still on the clock...

    btw, the same thing appeared to happen to me on rare occasions before as well, but it never occurred to me what was causing it until now when i read this thread

    PS: they do give you a warning about logging out before the 10 seconds, but it is a bit poorly worded, in that they don't make clear that if you disconnect right away, then your character will be still logged in. It's just by memory, but I believe the warning says something about you being still logged in...semantics, but i can see where that can mislead players...it did me for a while before I realized what it meant
    Edited by fgoron2000 on August 15, 2018 7:54PM
  • DedEmbryonicCell19
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    cheops wrote: »
    Wait 10 seconds for you to log out, problem solved .. people seriously can't wait 10 seconds to be logged off?

    I've never had this problem ..

    sigh...
    I dont think I could have made it any clearer...

    Nope, you couldn't .. must be a bug on your end .. better send a ticket in ..

    Personally, this has never happened to me so not sure what else I can say ..
  • cheops
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    i'll give it a try, tx
  • Tasear
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    Hmm...let me pass this along just in case.
  • cheops
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    thank you
  • Raraaku
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    cheops wrote: »
    Davor wrote: »
    cheops wrote: »
    It isnt highly unlikely, its a repeatedly observed fact

    I love it when people say something and it's fact without proof. While you might not have any pics, you could have at least explained what happened to you. Not sure why you seem miffed. After all you never explained and said how it was done.

    lol! - what an extraordinary response...

    Its simple, i note the time remaining then log out normally to the character select screen waiting for the process to complete and several times when i log the alt back in later the XP buff has gone.

    seems pretty straightforward to me...

    Could be a bug that has the experience buff internal timer carry over with you to your other characters rather than pausing when you log out of that particular character. Have you tried to completely logout to the main menu and then login and switch characters to see if that pauses the timer? My guess is that it's an issue with alt hopping and the internal timers not properly pausing when switching characters due to the account not totally logging out of the server.
    Edited by Raraaku on August 15, 2018 8:07PM
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    Sir Leopold Stotch: DC || Breton || Magicka Templar || Tank || Level: 445
    Protects-Squishy-Ones: EP || Argonian || Magicka Sorcerer || Tank/CC || Level: CP 445
    Björn Shadow-Walker: EP || Nord || Stamina Nightblade || Tank || Level: 15
    Tiberius Valerion: AD || Imperial || Stamina Warden || Tank || Level: 15

    Damage Dealers
    Morrigan Ravyn-Cloak: AD || Altmer || Magicka Nightblade || DPS || Level: CP 445
    Ra'Zahkara: AD || Khajiit || Stamina Dragonknight || DPS || Level: CP 445
    Ezra al-Khazir: DC || Redguard || Stamina Templar || DPS || Level: 40
    Erryndril Telvaux: EP || Dunmer || Magicka Dragonknight || DPS || Level: 25
    Uzara gra-Khalari: DC || Orc || Stamina Nightblade || DPS [2H/DW] || Level: 15
    Solomon Motierre: DC || Breton || Magicka Sorcerer || DPS || Level: 20
    Ragnar the Wulf: EP || Nord || Stamina Warden || DPS || Level: 30
    Ra'Rahku: AD || Khajiit || Stamina Nightblade || DPS [Bow/Bow] || Level: 15

    Healers
    Sees-through-Hist: EP || Argonian || Magicka Warden || Healer/CC || CP 445
    Daedalus the Artificer: AD || Altmer || Magicka Templar || Healer || Level: 15
  • Taleof2Cities
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    @cheops, if you have a screenshot or video of the issue it might help others believe your story.

    As for myself, I have never observed problems with buff timers after logging out and then logging back in.
  • D0PAMINE
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    I have had this happen numerous times as well.
  • cheops
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    Could be a bug that has the experience buff internal timer carry over with you to your other characters rather than pausing when you log out of that particular character. Have you tried to completely logout to the main menu and then login and switch characters to see if that pauses the timer? My guess is that it's an issue with alt hopping and the internal timers not properly pausing when switching characters due to the account not totally logging out of the server.

    Thats basically what I was wondering when I asked if I should be logging right out of the game rather than leaving it at the character select screen. But then I get disconnected for inactivity after a short while anyway

  • Davor
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    cheops wrote: »
    Davor wrote: »
    cheops wrote: »
    It isnt highly unlikely, its a repeatedly observed fact

    I love it when people say something and it's fact without proof. While you might not have any pics, you could have at least explained what happened to you. Not sure why you seem miffed. After all you never explained and said how it was done.

    lol! - what an extraordinary response...

    Its simple, i note the time remaining then log out normally to the character select screen waiting for the process to complete and several times when i log the alt back in later the XP buff has gone.

    seems pretty straightforward to me...

    If it was pretty straightforward then people wouldn't be asking how you logged off then. Looks like I am not the only one who can't read your mind. :smiley:

    Have you put in a ticket to Zenimax to see if they can refund you that one XP buff/scroll?
    Not my quote but I love this saying

    "I would pay It for support. But since they choosed we are just numbers and not customers, i dont mind if game and zos goes to oblivion"
  • cheops
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    Not yet, my first instinct was to find out if this was a known problem. I started noticing it when the Gold Coast scrolls started dropping with the daily rewards and I had the notion to carry on power levelling an alt using crown scrolls. I generally use up the gold coast scrolls before I log the alt out because they are gone in an hour. The instances in which I am certain this has happened have been with crown scrolls.
  • Fur_like_snow
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    I’ve only had this happen with the cyrodiil AP buff but then again I just quit and rarely log out.
  • DanteYoda
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    Yes i'm seeing this as well its pretty random and its not just logging off sometimes its entering delves or solo dungeons as well they just vanish..

    I changed characters yesterday and the exp scroll was gone i assumed it wasn't account bound when i re-logged in on the original character it was still gone..

    The above is true as well and its not all delves or dungeons but more often its those quests that zone you to multiple places that wipe them from you..
    Edited by DanteYoda on August 16, 2018 4:06AM
  • cheops
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    I've been watching it for about a month now so it does not seem to be related to the recent update
  • newtinmpls
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    Nestor wrote: »
    I have had my suspicions on this. I admit I dont always check the amount of time I have left. But, it seems that if I dont wait the 10 seconds to log out, the game does decriment the timer long after I closed the game.

    If you don't actually log out, why would the timer stop? Isn't that what "tells" the game server/timer to stop for any "duration" type thing?
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  • Sylvermynx
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    Doesn't zoning around use up time as if you were actually moving there without using wayshrines? I think I remember a friend who played from beta forward for a couple of years saying that. If it's true (and I actually have no idea if it is) that could account for some of the scroll decay.
  • cheops
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    I've been thrown off the server several times since the update and the buff has not decremented, but then I suppose I log in again soon after...
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