@ZOS Please STOP listening to players TOO MUCH

kelly.medleyb14_ESO · March 2015

Lets keep it civil. Honestly though we can only hope that ZoS will have good discernment on what is good for their game. 1.6 has renewed my confidence in them. Lets hope they continue down the road of making an open, free and player driven world.

El Amanecer · March 2015

Furiously Plus, author of the theme. I do not know English very well and write on forums especially no.

I play with the release, but constant decrease in the complexity of content, kills any desire to continue to play this game.

Kragorn · March 2015

Contraptions wrote: »

This was NOT mentioned in any of the patch notes. Why? ZOS, if you've fixed a bug or buffed/nerfed something, please TELL your players. If you don't, most people will assume you've forgotten about it. Or worse, once players do find out, it'll give players an impression that you're trying to "ninja nerf/buff" their characters. All of these reflect badly on your company image and the image of ESO as a whole.

I wouldn't have the time or inclination to read the patch notes if every bug that got fixed is listed .. there are far too many bugs getting fixed to wade through each time.

Also, as far as 'image' is concerned, the FULL bug-fix list itself would be pretty poor PR frankly, given the seriousness of some of them that should never have escaped QA/PTS testing.

TicToc · March 2015

I agree that they should not just act on every idea that comes from the players, but they do need to listen to their complaints and distinguish between what is a valid idea and what is not. Yes, they need to stop listening to some players, including those that keep saying that the game is great as it is.

The OP, however, is just not grounded in reality. The game is not perfect. The game has problems and should not just stay the way it is. The game has lost a lot of players over the past year, and they need to figure out why that is and adjust accordingly. People that want to act like everything is wonderful and continue to constantly praise the game, despite its problems, are not doing anybody any favors.

The game definitely has its bright spots, and some complaints are not justified. On the other hand, the game has its rough spots that really drag it down from where it could be.

And for those blaming the PvPers for all that is bad in this game...stop. As someone else pointed out, PvP is a good test of what is, and what isn't, balanced. More importantly, PvP is not just something they added on to this game. They built, marketed, and sold this game with PvP as part of the core gameplay. Yes, it is easier to balance games that don't have PvP, but they chose to make PvP a large part of this game, so that is something that everyone has to accept and live with.

Should they stop listening to players? No. Of course not. Not listening to your player base is a good way to go out of business. For every person that complains, hundreds, or even thousands leave without saying a word. Some may not even know exactly why they are leaving, other than they are not having fun. They need to listen when people are unhappy, but in doing so they need to separate the wheat from the chaff.

wishlist14 · August 2018

'You give the baby its bottle and next minute he is asking for your car keys'

LadyLavina · August 2018

@TagaParti

If you think they're listening to players too much, you clearly haven't been around long enough.

They barely listen to players at all.

Sylvermynx · August 2018

Holy necropost Batfolks!

Judas Helviaryn · August 2018

LadyLavina wrote: »

@TagaParti

If you think they're listening to players too much, you clearly haven't been around long enough.

They barely listen to players at all.

This is funny to me, because he's been around since at least 2015. xD

ZOS still listens to the most vocal, whiniest among us. People who want the game to play itself, and never want to put any effort in themselves.

A challenge in this game? Ha!
It's more hand holdy than even Skyrim.

RedRook · August 2018

Necromancy sux.

DuskMarine · August 2018

LadyLavina wrote: »

@TagaParti

If you think they're listening to players too much, you clearly haven't been around long enough.

They barely listen to players at all.

well from someone whos played games their whole life they shouldnt listen to us at all on game changes outside of what new content would we like to see in the future. its zoses vision not ours its kindve why this games going all over the place instead of in a steady direction that everyone might like. following to many suggestions only makes a game terrible. thus why big buisnesses like blizzard, dice and a few others dont even consult players they throw stuff at the wall and see if it sticks if it doesnt they change it. to much control by the community can kill a game.

Cryptical · August 2018

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Cryptical · August 2018

Cryptical · August 2018

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Someone lock this thing. Seal it back into the tomb.

Vivecc · August 2018

i played the last 2 beta weekends and then since official launch. Sadly i have to say that not a single major update went flawlessly ( either by introducing new bugs, or by unearthing old ones).
Decisions to change the game in a more overall aspects, like introducing first vet ranks then removing them again , over to the ( imo) unlucky 1T change that put all 3 alliances together , none of those changes was met by me with a hearthy " Oh yeah!!"
rather i had to adapt to it.
meanwhile im really tired of the constant influx of gamebreaking bugs ( cyrodiil keep walls constant changing state for example) and the what´s called quality of life stuff that doesnt really work or is just useless crap ( stealth breaking by magelight included the red eye overhead e.g.)
i dont want a regular influx of 6 more sets, 4 new motives and whatnot…..
i want this game to find back to what it was originally visioned.

Kel · August 2018

Didn't expect to see a 2015 thread when I opened this topic, but here we are....

WreckfulAbandon · August 2018

I get thread necros can be annoying sometimes, but would like to know where the universal rule that it's always bad came from?

Hurr durr, it 2018, thread from 2015, hurr durr?? You think history is dumb too lol?

I thought it was a timely necro with all the QQ going around, but feel free to explain why this actually isn't the case anymore.

RedRook · August 2018

WreckfulAbandon wrote: »

I get thread necros can be annoying sometimes, but would like to know where the universal rule that it's always bad came from?

Hurr durr, it 2018, thread from 2015, hurr durr?? You think history is dumb too lol?

I thought it was a timely necro with all the QQ going around, but feel free to explain why this actually isn't the case anymore.

It's very easy to start a new thread.

THIS conversation ended three years ago.

Judas Helviaryn · August 2018

RedRook wrote: »

WreckfulAbandon wrote: »

I get thread necros can be annoying sometimes, but would like to know where the universal rule that it's always bad came from?

Hurr durr, it 2018, thread from 2015, hurr durr?? You think history is dumb too lol?

I thought it was a timely necro with all the QQ going around, but feel free to explain why this actually isn't the case anymore.

It's very easy to start a new thread.

THIS conversation ended three years ago.

It's pretty relevant. More relevant than, say.. a costume catwalk thread that's been revived numerous times over the years.

Beardimus · August 2018

To be honnest it is a necro. But it's relevant.

ZOS didn't listen to all the top sorcs about rune cage on PTS but they did listen to all the mediocre night blades who stormed the nerf sorc threads once it was live.

Class Reps are now here and ZOS cherry pick from their comments it feels.

Funny old game.

Wish they just said - this is our direction. We don't care what you think, these are our reasons. See ya.

ZOS_JesC · August 2018

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