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So..about the new AS skin glitch ..
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HighKinlady✭✭✭✭I’m sure it doesn’t matter since I’m just one person , but I cancelled my sub due to this .XB NA
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valeriiya✭✭✭✭✭
✭HighKinlady wrote: »I’m sure it doesn’t matter since I’m just one person , but I cancelled my sub due to this .
it does matter. we all have our own reasons for cancelling but the only thing ZO$ cares about is revenue0 -
XGCAlbatr0ss✭✭✭Apparently they are looking into this on PC...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/430494/asylum-sanctorium-currently-disabled-pc-mac/p21 -
Prof_Bawbag✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭DuskMarine wrote: »HighKinlady wrote: »Is there any official word from ZOS regarding this ? People are in zone chat bragging about it and selling the skin (yes , I submitted a ticket). I hope the bans are consistent as they have been the past few waves . However , a “yes we know and are working on bans” or any update really from ZOS would be great . Don’t let this get swept under the radar .
their not gonna ever truly ban them. honestly if zos keeps refusing to fix it they could legally take action on zos for banning them as its a bug that zos is refusing to fix that clearly is welcome to be exploited because of the refusal to fix it. it wouldnt take them more than a day to fix it by placeing an trigger like they did in cloudrest.
Good luck to anyone willing to waste a heap of cash attempting that. I like how all the armchair legal whiz kids think the legal system is risk free to those lodging the claim. I mean, lets look at this simplistically, if those people or that 1 person were to lose, they'd be 1000's upon 1000's of £'s or $'s out of pocket. For what? Because they can't play a silly game?0 -
BNOC✭✭✭✭✭Oh man, not another self indulgent post.
Someone having the same title, weapon or skin literally means diddly squat.
It doesn't diminish 'accomplishments' as they clearly aren't leaderboard runs.
I highlighted 'accomplishments' because we are doing this content on day 1 of it's release or close enough to, which doesn't exactly strike 'accomplishment' into anyones head, not mine anyway.
When this gets broken down, as it was before - All the people crying about some noobs glitching it are more than happy to let the same players pay xM+ to get a carry from them, but take straight to the forums when it's without them. That's the real discrepancy here.
If one diminishes your 'accomplishments' then so does the other to someone else.
If you want to complain imo, don't sell carries yourselves.
Tragic lads.
EDIT: I couldn't care less either way what happens to the glitchers.Edited by BNOC on August 14, 2018 2:13PMvMSA - Magplar - Xbox EU - 15/11/16
578,000 - 36 Minutes 58 Seconds (Top 2 World?)
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HighKinlady✭✭✭✭Oh man, not another self indulgent post.
Someone having the same title, weapon or skin literally means diddly squat.
It doesn't diminish 'accomplishments' as they clearly aren't leaderboard runs.
I highlighted 'accomplishments' because we are doing this content on day 1 of it's release or close enough to, which doesn't exactly strike 'accomplishment' into anyones head, not mine anyway.
When this gets broken down, as it was before - All the people crying about some noobs glitching it are more than happy to let the same players pay xM+ to get a carry from them, but take straight to the forums when it's without them. That's the real discrepancy here.
If one diminishes your 'accomplishments' then so does the other to someone else.
If you want to complain imo, don't sell carries yourselves.
Tragic lads.
EDIT: I couldn't care less either way what happens to the glitchers.
Tl;dr after first line . You sound pretty upset . Hope the rest of your day gets better for you .
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HighKinlady✭✭✭✭XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »Apparently they are looking into this on PC...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/430494/asylum-sanctorium-currently-disabled-pc-mac/p2
This is great! Hopefully they’ll fix it on console as well .
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High Kinlady
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XGCAlbatr0ss✭✭✭HighKinlady wrote: »XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »Apparently they are looking into this on PC...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/430494/asylum-sanctorium-currently-disabled-pc-mac/p2
This is great! Hopefully they’ll fix it on console as well .
I hope so, as i said in the other thread. Console is getting the wolfhunter dlc update in 2 weeks right, so if they find the fix for it this week on PC they may be able to code the hotfix for console within the wolfhunter dlc and bypass the whole cert process from MS/ Sony.2 -
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Nothing to see hear folks. Just another person who thinks its ok to cheat and break the ToS.Edited by Apache_Kid on August 14, 2018 5:36PM2 -
BNOC✭✭✭✭✭HighKinlady wrote: »Oh man, not another self indulgent post.
Someone having the same title, weapon or skin literally means diddly squat.
It doesn't diminish 'accomplishments' as they clearly aren't leaderboard runs.
I highlighted 'accomplishments' because we are doing this content on day 1 of it's release or close enough to, which doesn't exactly strike 'accomplishment' into anyones head, not mine anyway.
When this gets broken down, as it was before - All the people crying about some noobs glitching it are more than happy to let the same players pay xM+ to get a carry from them, but take straight to the forums when it's without them. That's the real discrepancy here.
If one diminishes your 'accomplishments' then so does the other to someone else.
If you want to complain imo, don't sell carries yourselves.
Tragic lads.
EDIT: I couldn't care less either way what happens to the glitchers.
Tl;dr after first line . You sound pretty upset . Hope the rest of your day gets better for you .
I couldn't care less about someone glitching a cosmetic that you'd sell them for 10* more hahah - I'm just here calling out your fake tears.
You're genuinely upset that you aren't making money from carries, that's all this is about and I was just bringing it to light again.
You selling a carry to player-X does the exact same thing to other guilds who have completed runs that you're saying glitchers are doing to you.
Just saying, it's the exact same thing.
P.S. It's all cosmetic as well. Roleplayers
Edited by BNOC on August 14, 2018 3:40PMvMSA - Magplar - Xbox EU - 15/11/16
578,000 - 36 Minutes 58 Seconds (Top 2 World?)
vMSA - Magplar - Xbox NA
569,000 - 40 minutes (350CP, Non optimised runs)0 -
XGCAlbatr0ss✭✭✭HighKinlady wrote: »Oh man, not another self indulgent post.
Someone having the same title, weapon or skin literally means diddly squat.
It doesn't diminish 'accomplishments' as they clearly aren't leaderboard runs.
I highlighted 'accomplishments' because we are doing this content on day 1 of it's release or close enough to, which doesn't exactly strike 'accomplishment' into anyones head, not mine anyway.
When this gets broken down, as it was before - All the people crying about some noobs glitching it are more than happy to let the same players pay xM+ to get a carry from them, but take straight to the forums when it's without them. That's the real discrepancy here.
If one diminishes your 'accomplishments' then so does the other to someone else.
If you want to complain imo, don't sell carries yourselves.
Tragic lads.
EDIT: I couldn't care less either way what happens to the glitchers.
Tl;dr after first line . You sound pretty upset . Hope the rest of your day gets better for you .
I couldn't care less about someone glitching a cosmetic that you'd sell them for 10* more hahah - I'm just here calling out your fake tears.
You're genuinely upset that you aren't making money from carries, that's all this is about and I was just bringing it to light again.
You selling a carry to player-X does the exact same thing to other guilds who have completed runs that you're saying glitchers are doing to you.
Just saying, it's the exact same thing.
P.S. It's all cosmetic as well. Roleplayers
Actually, most of the players here are not selling carries. We are genuinly upset that people are cheating for acheivements that many of us have progressed for months to complete. It has nothing to do with selling skin runs.4 -
Sparr0w✭✭✭✭✭
✭DuskMarine wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »HighKinlady wrote: »Is there any official word from ZOS regarding this ? People are in zone chat bragging about it and selling the skin (yes , I submitted a ticket). I hope the bans are consistent as they have been the past few waves . However , a “yes we know and are working on bans” or any update really from ZOS would be great . Don’t let this get swept under the radar .
their not gonna ever truly ban them. honestly if zos keeps refusing to fix it they could legally take action on zos for banning them as its a bug that zos is refusing to fix that clearly is welcome to be exploited because of the refusal to fix it. it wouldnt take them more than a day to fix it by placeing an trigger like they did in cloudrest.
This could not possibly be more wrong. We literally signed ToS when we created our accounts that we would not abuse exploits. There is ABSOLUTELY ZERO room for legal action by players here.
thats what people thought about ea and their stuff and you see what happened with them. if its not seen as a fixable issue then its not a exploit. least thats how its seen mostly by most legal bodies. if you dont think you should fix it then its there for the players to use and they shouldnt suffer for it. its just something that falls back on the developers not the players. if someone ever felt like pushing the envelope they could win by a very small margin in a legal fight.
So I rob a new store because they don't have an alarm system yet I can argue against it? Nice to know@Sparr0w so I get the notification
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BNOC✭✭✭✭✭XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »HighKinlady wrote: »Oh man, not another self indulgent post.
Someone having the same title, weapon or skin literally means diddly squat.
It doesn't diminish 'accomplishments' as they clearly aren't leaderboard runs.
I highlighted 'accomplishments' because we are doing this content on day 1 of it's release or close enough to, which doesn't exactly strike 'accomplishment' into anyones head, not mine anyway.
When this gets broken down, as it was before - All the people crying about some noobs glitching it are more than happy to let the same players pay xM+ to get a carry from them, but take straight to the forums when it's without them. That's the real discrepancy here.
If one diminishes your 'accomplishments' then so does the other to someone else.
If you want to complain imo, don't sell carries yourselves.
Tragic lads.
EDIT: I couldn't care less either way what happens to the glitchers.
Tl;dr after first line . You sound pretty upset . Hope the rest of your day gets better for you .
I couldn't care less about someone glitching a cosmetic that you'd sell them for 10* more hahah - I'm just here calling out your fake tears.
You're genuinely upset that you aren't making money from carries, that's all this is about and I was just bringing it to light again.
You selling a carry to player-X does the exact same thing to other guilds who have completed runs that you're saying glitchers are doing to you.
Just saying, it's the exact same thing.
P.S. It's all cosmetic as well. Roleplayers
Actually, most of the players here are not selling carries. We are genuinly upset that people are cheating for acheivements that many of us have progressed for months to complete. It has nothing to do with selling skin runs.
Alright, retroactively ban everyone who abused Midyear mayhem to get a cosmetic PVP rank, or that ever got a carry in vMSA, vMoL etc.
Let's keep this consistent.
Though, out of interest, is there an issue with someone buying the skin from a guild? Or is that fine.Edited by BNOC on August 14, 2018 3:48PMvMSA - Magplar - Xbox EU - 15/11/16
578,000 - 36 Minutes 58 Seconds (Top 2 World?)
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LadyNalcarya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭HighKinlady wrote: »Oh man, not another self indulgent post.
Someone having the same title, weapon or skin literally means diddly squat.
It doesn't diminish 'accomplishments' as they clearly aren't leaderboard runs.
I highlighted 'accomplishments' because we are doing this content on day 1 of it's release or close enough to, which doesn't exactly strike 'accomplishment' into anyones head, not mine anyway.
When this gets broken down, as it was before - All the people crying about some noobs glitching it are more than happy to let the same players pay xM+ to get a carry from them, but take straight to the forums when it's without them. That's the real discrepancy here.
If one diminishes your 'accomplishments' then so does the other to someone else.
If you want to complain imo, don't sell carries yourselves.
Tragic lads.
EDIT: I couldn't care less either way what happens to the glitchers.
Tl;dr after first line . You sound pretty upset . Hope the rest of your day gets better for you .
I couldn't care less about someone glitching a cosmetic that you'd sell them for 10* more hahah - I'm just here calling out your fake tears.
You're genuinely upset that you aren't making money from carries, that's all this is about and I was just bringing it to light again.
You selling a carry to player-X does the exact same thing to other guilds who have completed runs that you're saying glitchers are doing to you.
Just saying, it's the exact same thing.
P.S. It's all cosmetic as well. Roleplayers
It's against TOS, and there's a good reason for that. Cheating and exploits ruin online games, and this is a problem.
It's really mind-boggling how accepting ESO playerbase is when it comes to cheating.Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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XGCAlbatr0ss✭✭✭XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »HighKinlady wrote: »Oh man, not another self indulgent post.
Someone having the same title, weapon or skin literally means diddly squat.
It doesn't diminish 'accomplishments' as they clearly aren't leaderboard runs.
I highlighted 'accomplishments' because we are doing this content on day 1 of it's release or close enough to, which doesn't exactly strike 'accomplishment' into anyones head, not mine anyway.
When this gets broken down, as it was before - All the people crying about some noobs glitching it are more than happy to let the same players pay xM+ to get a carry from them, but take straight to the forums when it's without them. That's the real discrepancy here.
If one diminishes your 'accomplishments' then so does the other to someone else.
If you want to complain imo, don't sell carries yourselves.
Tragic lads.
EDIT: I couldn't care less either way what happens to the glitchers.
Tl;dr after first line . You sound pretty upset . Hope the rest of your day gets better for you .
I couldn't care less about someone glitching a cosmetic that you'd sell them for 10* more hahah - I'm just here calling out your fake tears.
You're genuinely upset that you aren't making money from carries, that's all this is about and I was just bringing it to light again.
You selling a carry to player-X does the exact same thing to other guilds who have completed runs that you're saying glitchers are doing to you.
Just saying, it's the exact same thing.
P.S. It's all cosmetic as well. Roleplayers
Actually, most of the players here are not selling carries. We are genuinly upset that people are cheating for acheivements that many of us have progressed for months to complete. It has nothing to do with selling skin runs.
Alright, retroactively ban everyone who abused Midyear mayhem to get a cosmetic PVP rank, or that ever got a carry in vMSA, vMoL etc.
Let's keep this consistent.
Never said not to, thats completely fine with me. An exploit is an exploit and violations of the ToS should all be handled equally. However at this point this trial is the second most difficult content in this game and an exploit causing people to bypass mechanics needs to be handled ASAP.2 -
Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭HighKinlady wrote: »Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »I am missing something. Are they advertising selling carries or are the advertising cheating to sell carries. The two are very different. As long you are playing by the rules of the trial, I dont think there is anything in the TOS against selling a clear as long as everyone plays on their respective accounts.
In other words, a good group that can 11 man the trial is perfectly able to say, pay us a million gold, go stand in the corner, and clear the content. Nothing wrong with that as far as ZOS is concerned, and nothing wrong with selling carries in zone chat.
Now if they are saying in zone, hey give me gold and Ill show you how to glitch the trial, that is a wildly different story.
I agree . However , it’s a “pay me 100k to glitch your AS skin” that’s being sold in chat . Like I said , the sellers aren’t on their main accounts and don’t really care how they word the carry simply because they are not on their main account .
Yep, that is definitely worth a rage post on the forums. Banhammers need dropped.2 -
BNOC✭✭✭✭✭XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »HighKinlady wrote: »Oh man, not another self indulgent post.
Someone having the same title, weapon or skin literally means diddly squat.
It doesn't diminish 'accomplishments' as they clearly aren't leaderboard runs.
I highlighted 'accomplishments' because we are doing this content on day 1 of it's release or close enough to, which doesn't exactly strike 'accomplishment' into anyones head, not mine anyway.
When this gets broken down, as it was before - All the people crying about some noobs glitching it are more than happy to let the same players pay xM+ to get a carry from them, but take straight to the forums when it's without them. That's the real discrepancy here.
If one diminishes your 'accomplishments' then so does the other to someone else.
If you want to complain imo, don't sell carries yourselves.
Tragic lads.
EDIT: I couldn't care less either way what happens to the glitchers.
Tl;dr after first line . You sound pretty upset . Hope the rest of your day gets better for you .
I couldn't care less about someone glitching a cosmetic that you'd sell them for 10* more hahah - I'm just here calling out your fake tears.
You're genuinely upset that you aren't making money from carries, that's all this is about and I was just bringing it to light again.
You selling a carry to player-X does the exact same thing to other guilds who have completed runs that you're saying glitchers are doing to you.
Just saying, it's the exact same thing.
P.S. It's all cosmetic as well. Roleplayers
Actually, most of the players here are not selling carries. We are genuinly upset that people are cheating for acheivements that many of us have progressed for months to complete. It has nothing to do with selling skin runs.
Alright, retroactively ban everyone who abused Midyear mayhem to get a cosmetic PVP rank, or that ever got a carry in vMSA, vMoL etc.
Let's keep this consistent.
Never said not to, thats completely fine with me. An exploit is an exploit and violations of the ToS should all be handled equally. However at this point this trial is the second most difficult content in this game and an exploit causing people to bypass mechanics needs to be handled ASAP.
A fresh character could bypass every mechanic in there by paying for a carry, what’s the difference?
Has that ruined someone else’s sense of accomplishment because they don’t know that player paid for it?
Anyway, at one point all those others I mentioned were the hardest content in game, what significance does that hold other than the fact it’s going to be as redundant as you’re making the others sound at some point also?
Like I said I honestly don’t care, I didn’t need to do that and at the end of the day it’s not gamebreaking at all.
vMSA - Magplar - Xbox EU - 15/11/16
578,000 - 36 Minutes 58 Seconds (Top 2 World?)
vMSA - Magplar - Xbox NA
569,000 - 40 minutes (350CP, Non optimised runs)0 -
XGCAlbatr0ss✭✭✭XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »HighKinlady wrote: »Oh man, not another self indulgent post.
Someone having the same title, weapon or skin literally means diddly squat.
It doesn't diminish 'accomplishments' as they clearly aren't leaderboard runs.
I highlighted 'accomplishments' because we are doing this content on day 1 of it's release or close enough to, which doesn't exactly strike 'accomplishment' into anyones head, not mine anyway.
When this gets broken down, as it was before - All the people crying about some noobs glitching it are more than happy to let the same players pay xM+ to get a carry from them, but take straight to the forums when it's without them. That's the real discrepancy here.
If one diminishes your 'accomplishments' then so does the other to someone else.
If you want to complain imo, don't sell carries yourselves.
Tragic lads.
EDIT: I couldn't care less either way what happens to the glitchers.
Tl;dr after first line . You sound pretty upset . Hope the rest of your day gets better for you .
I couldn't care less about someone glitching a cosmetic that you'd sell them for 10* more hahah - I'm just here calling out your fake tears.
You're genuinely upset that you aren't making money from carries, that's all this is about and I was just bringing it to light again.
You selling a carry to player-X does the exact same thing to other guilds who have completed runs that you're saying glitchers are doing to you.
Just saying, it's the exact same thing.
P.S. It's all cosmetic as well. Roleplayers
Actually, most of the players here are not selling carries. We are genuinly upset that people are cheating for acheivements that many of us have progressed for months to complete. It has nothing to do with selling skin runs.
Alright, retroactively ban everyone who abused Midyear mayhem to get a cosmetic PVP rank, or that ever got a carry in vMSA, vMoL etc.
Let's keep this consistent.
Never said not to, thats completely fine with me. An exploit is an exploit and violations of the ToS should all be handled equally. However at this point this trial is the second most difficult content in this game and an exploit causing people to bypass mechanics needs to be handled ASAP.
A fresh character could bypass every mechanic in there by paying for a carry, what’s the difference?
Has that ruined someone else’s sense of accomplishment because they don’t know that player paid for it?
Anyway, at one point all those others I mentioned were the hardest content in game, what significance does that hold other than the fact it’s going to be as redundant as you’re making the others sound at some point also?
Like I said I honestly don’t care, I didn’t need to do that and at the end of the day it’s not gamebreaking at all.
Well because you dont care about it, means nobody else should either? That makes no sense, if you dont care about it than why are posting on this thread if it means nothing to you? Other than just trying to stir the pot and make arguments that are null and void.
Also this has nothing to do with people buying skins from people that are LEGITIMATELY carrying them for their skins. But this has everything to do with people SELLING AN EXPLOIT!Edited by XGCAlbatr0ss on August 14, 2018 4:16PM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »HighKinlady wrote: »Oh man, not another self indulgent post.
Someone having the same title, weapon or skin literally means diddly squat.
It doesn't diminish 'accomplishments' as they clearly aren't leaderboard runs.
I highlighted 'accomplishments' because we are doing this content on day 1 of it's release or close enough to, which doesn't exactly strike 'accomplishment' into anyones head, not mine anyway.
When this gets broken down, as it was before - All the people crying about some noobs glitching it are more than happy to let the same players pay xM+ to get a carry from them, but take straight to the forums when it's without them. That's the real discrepancy here.
If one diminishes your 'accomplishments' then so does the other to someone else.
If you want to complain imo, don't sell carries yourselves.
Tragic lads.
EDIT: I couldn't care less either way what happens to the glitchers.
Tl;dr after first line . You sound pretty upset . Hope the rest of your day gets better for you .
I couldn't care less about someone glitching a cosmetic that you'd sell them for 10* more hahah - I'm just here calling out your fake tears.
You're genuinely upset that you aren't making money from carries, that's all this is about and I was just bringing it to light again.
You selling a carry to player-X does the exact same thing to other guilds who have completed runs that you're saying glitchers are doing to you.
Just saying, it's the exact same thing.
P.S. It's all cosmetic as well. Roleplayers
Actually, most of the players here are not selling carries. We are genuinly upset that people are cheating for acheivements that many of us have progressed for months to complete. It has nothing to do with selling skin runs.
Alright, retroactively ban everyone who abused Midyear mayhem to get a cosmetic PVP rank, or that ever got a carry in vMSA, vMoL etc.
Let's keep this consistent.
Never said not to, thats completely fine with me. An exploit is an exploit and violations of the ToS should all be handled equally. However at this point this trial is the second most difficult content in this game and an exploit causing people to bypass mechanics needs to be handled ASAP.
A fresh character could bypass every mechanic in there by paying for a carry, what’s the difference?
Has that ruined someone else’s sense of accomplishment because they don’t know that player paid for it?
Anyway, at one point all those others I mentioned were the hardest content in game, what significance does that hold other than the fact it’s going to be as redundant as you’re making the others sound at some point also?
Like I said I honestly don’t care, I didn’t need to do that and at the end of the day it’s not gamebreaking at all.
Paying for a carry where you do the trial as intended, just your teammates are making up for your sub par DPS, isn't breaking the TOS and the Code of Conduct.
Exploiting a glitch/bug to complete the trial is breaking the TOS and Code of Conduct we all agreed to.
So whether or not you think something is or isn't gamebreaking or accomplishment ruining doesn't matter. Exploiting AS is against the TOS and Code of Conduct. That's why people got punished for it.3 -
LadyNalcarya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »HighKinlady wrote: »Oh man, not another self indulgent post.
Someone having the same title, weapon or skin literally means diddly squat.
It doesn't diminish 'accomplishments' as they clearly aren't leaderboard runs.
I highlighted 'accomplishments' because we are doing this content on day 1 of it's release or close enough to, which doesn't exactly strike 'accomplishment' into anyones head, not mine anyway.
When this gets broken down, as it was before - All the people crying about some noobs glitching it are more than happy to let the same players pay xM+ to get a carry from them, but take straight to the forums when it's without them. That's the real discrepancy here.
If one diminishes your 'accomplishments' then so does the other to someone else.
If you want to complain imo, don't sell carries yourselves.
Tragic lads.
EDIT: I couldn't care less either way what happens to the glitchers.
Tl;dr after first line . You sound pretty upset . Hope the rest of your day gets better for you .
I couldn't care less about someone glitching a cosmetic that you'd sell them for 10* more hahah - I'm just here calling out your fake tears.
You're genuinely upset that you aren't making money from carries, that's all this is about and I was just bringing it to light again.
You selling a carry to player-X does the exact same thing to other guilds who have completed runs that you're saying glitchers are doing to you.
Just saying, it's the exact same thing.
P.S. It's all cosmetic as well. Roleplayers
Actually, most of the players here are not selling carries. We are genuinly upset that people are cheating for acheivements that many of us have progressed for months to complete. It has nothing to do with selling skin runs.
Alright, retroactively ban everyone who abused Midyear mayhem to get a cosmetic PVP rank, or that ever got a carry in vMSA, vMoL etc.
Let's keep this consistent.
Never said not to, thats completely fine with me. An exploit is an exploit and violations of the ToS should all be handled equally. However at this point this trial is the second most difficult content in this game and an exploit causing people to bypass mechanics needs to be handled ASAP.
A fresh character could bypass every mechanic in there by paying for a carry, what’s the difference?
Has that ruined someone else’s sense of accomplishment because they don’t know that player paid for it?
Anyway, at one point all those others I mentioned were the hardest content in game, what significance does that hold other than the fact it’s going to be as redundant as you’re making the others sound at some point also?
Like I said I honestly don’t care, I didn’t need to do that and at the end of the day it’s not gamebreaking at all.
It actually matters a lot.
Feelings aside, have you ever heard about broken windows theory? If people know that other players exploit right and left, then more of them will be willing to abuse potentially more harmful exploits.
Also, ZOS already has a bad reputation for botting and technical issues. Bad PR affects the game, for example, many players are refusing to give ESO a try after its less than perfect lauch, it took them more than a year to recover from it (and they havent fully recovered tbh). People dont like games where cheaters and exploites are free to do whatever they want.Edited by LadyNalcarya on August 14, 2018 4:23PMDro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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HighKinlady✭✭✭✭HighKinlady wrote: »Oh man, not another self indulgent post.
Someone having the same title, weapon or skin literally means diddly squat.
It doesn't diminish 'accomplishments' as they clearly aren't leaderboard runs.
I highlighted 'accomplishments' because we are doing this content on day 1 of it's release or close enough to, which doesn't exactly strike 'accomplishment' into anyones head, not mine anyway.
When this gets broken down, as it was before - All the people crying about some noobs glitching it are more than happy to let the same players pay xM+ to get a carry from them, but take straight to the forums when it's without them. That's the real discrepancy here.
If one diminishes your 'accomplishments' then so does the other to someone else.
If you want to complain imo, don't sell carries yourselves.
Tragic lads.
EDIT: I couldn't care less either way what happens to the glitchers.
Tl;dr after first line . You sound pretty upset . Hope the rest of your day gets better for you .
I couldn't care less about someone glitching a cosmetic that you'd sell them for 10* more hahah - I'm just here calling out your fake tears.
You're genuinely upset that you aren't making money from carries, that's all this is about and I was just bringing it to light again.
You selling a carry to player-X does the exact same thing to other guilds who have completed runs that you're saying glitchers are doing to you.
Just saying, it's the exact same thing.
P.S. It's all cosmetic as well. Roleplayers
I don’t sell skins . But nice try .XB NA
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DuskMarine✭✭✭✭✭
✭Prof_Bawbag wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »HighKinlady wrote: »Is there any official word from ZOS regarding this ? People are in zone chat bragging about it and selling the skin (yes , I submitted a ticket). I hope the bans are consistent as they have been the past few waves . However , a “yes we know and are working on bans” or any update really from ZOS would be great . Don’t let this get swept under the radar .
their not gonna ever truly ban them. honestly if zos keeps refusing to fix it they could legally take action on zos for banning them as its a bug that zos is refusing to fix that clearly is welcome to be exploited because of the refusal to fix it. it wouldnt take them more than a day to fix it by placeing an trigger like they did in cloudrest.
Good luck to anyone willing to waste a heap of cash attempting that. I like how all the armchair legal whiz kids think the legal system is risk free to those lodging the claim. I mean, lets look at this simplistically, if those people or that 1 person were to lose, they'd be 1000's upon 1000's of £'s or $'s out of pocket. For what? Because they can't play a silly game?
these days the laws are more for the consumer than the gaming companies. probly cause of all the anti gaming legislatures but gamers who claim that zos is full of crap cause they dont wanna fix the game have a 99.99999% chance of winning nowadays. and the main arguement that would be there is if its a exploit you know its an exploit why dont you fix it and thatll be where they lose cause then they can argue that its there for players to use then their allowed to use it cause if its not considered for needing fixed then its there for the players to use. lootboxes in basically every game ever made is practically illegal overseas now because of stuff like this where companies refuse to fix things. its not really a legal whiz kid type thing where the system is or isnt risk free its more of look at the trends the worlds going for its anti gaming if they can bankrupt them their gonna do it. so the asylum glitch needs fixed before someone does decide that their ban was unjust and takes them to court over it.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭DuskMarine wrote: »Prof_Bawbag wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »HighKinlady wrote: »Is there any official word from ZOS regarding this ? People are in zone chat bragging about it and selling the skin (yes , I submitted a ticket). I hope the bans are consistent as they have been the past few waves . However , a “yes we know and are working on bans” or any update really from ZOS would be great . Don’t let this get swept under the radar .
their not gonna ever truly ban them. honestly if zos keeps refusing to fix it they could legally take action on zos for banning them as its a bug that zos is refusing to fix that clearly is welcome to be exploited because of the refusal to fix it. it wouldnt take them more than a day to fix it by placeing an trigger like they did in cloudrest.
Good luck to anyone willing to waste a heap of cash attempting that. I like how all the armchair legal whiz kids think the legal system is risk free to those lodging the claim. I mean, lets look at this simplistically, if those people or that 1 person were to lose, they'd be 1000's upon 1000's of £'s or $'s out of pocket. For what? Because they can't play a silly game?
these days the laws are more for the consumer than the gaming companies. probly cause of all the anti gaming legislatures but gamers who claim that zos is full of crap cause they dont wanna fix the game have a 99.99999% chance of winning nowadays. and the main arguement that would be there is if its a exploit you know its an exploit why dont you fix it and thatll be where they lose cause then they can argue that its there for players to use then their allowed to use it cause if its not considered for needing fixed then its there for the players to use. lootboxes in basically every game ever made is practically illegal overseas now because of stuff like this where companies refuse to fix things. its not really a legal whiz kid type thing where the system is or isnt risk free its more of look at the trends the worlds going for its anti gaming if they can bankrupt them their gonna do it. so the asylum glitch needs fixed before someone does decide that their ban was unjust and takes them to court over it.
I'm not sure anyone who got banned for exploiting AS has a case.
"Your Honor, ZOS failed to fix the exploit I used, so they should not ban me for using the exploit."
"Did you agree to the TOS and the Code of Conduct where it says that you will not exploit bugs or glitches, but instead will report them and not use them?"
"Well, yeah, everyone who plays the game has to agree to those."
"And did you report the bug/glitch and not exploit it in accordance with the TOS/Code of Conduct?"
"Well, no, or ZOS wouldn't have banned me..."
"Okay then. Enjoy your ban."4 -
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✭How much time do you want to waste before you get the hint from ZOS.
Plenty of exploits being abused daily. It comes from releasing untested and broken content. This hasn't changed since release.
Most i know jsut nod the head and move on. Squandering more time on documenting such issues, names, videos and such, is simply doing ZOS job for them and paying them for the privilege also.1 -
DuskMarine✭✭✭✭✭
✭VaranisArano wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »Prof_Bawbag wrote: »DuskMarine wrote: »HighKinlady wrote: »Is there any official word from ZOS regarding this ? People are in zone chat bragging about it and selling the skin (yes , I submitted a ticket). I hope the bans are consistent as they have been the past few waves . However , a “yes we know and are working on bans” or any update really from ZOS would be great . Don’t let this get swept under the radar .
their not gonna ever truly ban them. honestly if zos keeps refusing to fix it they could legally take action on zos for banning them as its a bug that zos is refusing to fix that clearly is welcome to be exploited because of the refusal to fix it. it wouldnt take them more than a day to fix it by placeing an trigger like they did in cloudrest.
Good luck to anyone willing to waste a heap of cash attempting that. I like how all the armchair legal whiz kids think the legal system is risk free to those lodging the claim. I mean, lets look at this simplistically, if those people or that 1 person were to lose, they'd be 1000's upon 1000's of £'s or $'s out of pocket. For what? Because they can't play a silly game?
these days the laws are more for the consumer than the gaming companies. probly cause of all the anti gaming legislatures but gamers who claim that zos is full of crap cause they dont wanna fix the game have a 99.99999% chance of winning nowadays. and the main arguement that would be there is if its a exploit you know its an exploit why dont you fix it and thatll be where they lose cause then they can argue that its there for players to use then their allowed to use it cause if its not considered for needing fixed then its there for the players to use. lootboxes in basically every game ever made is practically illegal overseas now because of stuff like this where companies refuse to fix things. its not really a legal whiz kid type thing where the system is or isnt risk free its more of look at the trends the worlds going for its anti gaming if they can bankrupt them their gonna do it. so the asylum glitch needs fixed before someone does decide that their ban was unjust and takes them to court over it.
I'm not sure anyone who got banned for exploiting AS has a case.
"Your Honor, ZOS failed to fix the exploit I used, so they should not ban me for using the exploit."
"Did you agree to the TOS and the Code of Conduct where it says that you will not exploit bugs or glitches, but instead will report them and not use them?"
"Well, yeah, everyone who plays the game has to agree to those."
"And did you report the bug/glitch and not exploit it in accordance with the TOS/Code of Conduct?"
"Well, no, or ZOS wouldn't have banned me..."
"Okay then. Enjoy your ban."
youd think that but thats not how it would play out. itd end up being them grilling zos because after a bug has been neglected for so long the tos no longer applies and if it is known and they still dont fix it at that point its considered a usable feature for players to use. they void their own tos by not fixing the game. ive seen many people banned and within hours unbanned through threat of legal action due to notice of the bug and it going on for to long. granted right after that youd find an invisible wall blocking the way to the exploit. so itll come to that at some point and theyll throw something there thatll stop it from happening. only thing they have to do to even fix this issue is what they do in cloudrest drag you into the arena. boom problem solved.0 -
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Can we please get some form of acknowledgement or any kind of info on this matter please?1 -
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✭I was expecting a funny glitch in the skin itself and a picture. Dammit.Your friendly neighborhood crazy cat lady of ESO
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Is the trial disabled? Why not just remove the skin drop so you can still do it for weapons or fun.XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »Apparently they are looking into this on PC...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/430494/asylum-sanctorium-currently-disabled-pc-mac/p2
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
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Is the trial disabled? Why not just remove the skin drop so you can still do it for weapons or fun.XGCAlbatr0ss wrote: »Apparently they are looking into this on PC...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/430494/asylum-sanctorium-currently-disabled-pc-mac/p2
Its disabled for PC at the moment but fully functional on console and people are exploiting the trial for the gear and skin.0
