General questions about playing this online (ettiquite)

Tinkie · August 2018

This is my first online game. I've had it since it came out but just started playing a few weeks ago and have little to no clue what I'm doing. Regardless, despite not having friends in game or knowing even how to chat in game, I have been playing alone and have reached a level of 19 just going it alone. I often have end bosses I just can not seem to kill so am left unable to complete some quests. A couple of times, I just happened to have someone come in and I'd take on every other enemy until the end when I'd just tag along and help. That seemed to work well and obviously, they were a much higher level than I am. So I am wondering. Is doing this rude or wrong? I'd thank them or team up with someone to complete the quests I seem not to be able too but like I said, I've no clue how to even chat with them. I'm starting to get a bit overwhelmed by the number of quests piling up that I can't complete alone.
Also, do all end bosses level up as you do or will I be able to come back later and beat them easily after I attain higher levels or maybe I'm just lame at fighting a good battle? Any help will be appreciated. Thanks ahead of time.

SilverIce58 · August 2018

What platform are you on? If pc then all you do for chat is press "enter" once and type it out (if you want to type in zone chat you would press enter, then type /zone and you can speak to more people). Also, what do your stats look like? Try to take screenshots if on pc, or look up how to upload pictures with consoles. You should be putting most of your points into magicka if youre using a staff, or stamina if youre using either a bow or physical weapons. Put some into health so you dont die too often as well. Make sure youre using gear that is either at or very close to your level.

Watchdog · August 2018

ESO may work differently than you are probably expecting. Everything scales to your level, or, rather, you scale to the world zone's level. This means that you can generally enter any "overland" zone and quest there, regardless whether you are level 1 or level 50.

The dungeons marked with the torch on the map are soloable. The ones with a "+" sign are meant to be done in a group.

I would recommend joining a social guild as soon as possible, that is, a guild that is not strictly aimed at doing endgame content and expecting you to be an experienced, well geared veteran. It will help you immensely to have some people around, to ask for advice and help.

ESO can feel ovewhelming, but it is manageable, especially with some guidance.

Lysette · August 2018

Well, one of those things we should mention is, that if you spread your attribute points among magicka, health and stamina, you will most likely be weaker than if spending nearly or all your points on either magicka or stamina. This is just how this game works and not focusing your attribute points on just one attribute will lead to worse performance.

Then it is not too expensive to upgrade your gear to blue level - you can do that yourself - and it is well worth it. Pay attention to the traits on your gear and enchant all of them. And at last, get some blue food, which gives you health and your favorite attribute (and with it more attack strength) - you can cook that yourself as well - this is all not expensive and can be done even on lower levels.

At last look at your skill bar - you should have something protective or healing on it, something to spam attack and a finisher, which does more damage to targets at low health - and finally a gap closer and something weapon-specific. At least that is how I setup my lower level characters.

Hm, at level 19 you could have around 28k health and 25k on your favorite attribute (stam or magicka) with blue food. Eventually with some trainee gear even 30k health, around 1200 health regen (including rings and amulet) - with that you should be set up for success.

Edit: I forgot health drain enchants on your weapon - so that you get some extra health with every hit.

Ectheliontnacil · August 2018

Usually people are glad to help newer players. If you tag along with some high lvls I'm sure they don't mind.

I'd suggest you talk to them via chat (whisper them using the 'interact with player' key) and ask if they don't mind grouping up so you can finish the quest that way.

It's almost always a positive experience and I have made tons of friends in grinding or questing partners when I first started eso.

Lysette · August 2018

Ectheliontnacil wrote: »

Usually people are glad to help newer players. If you tag along with some high lvls I'm sure they don't mind.

I'd suggest you talk to them via chat (whisper them using the 'interact with player' key) and ask if they don't mind grouping up so you can finish the quest that way.

It's almost always a positive experience and I have made tons of friends in grinding or questing partners when I first started eso.

But the downside of this approach is, that you eventually think you need them - you don't, you can do that all on your own as well at lower levels - nothing there is really dangerous quest-wise. It just takes some decent blue gear and blue food.

yurimodin · August 2018

if your on PC NA feel free to add me @yurimodin and I will be more than happy to run some content with you and introduce you to my guilds.....besides I have a couple under lvl20 characters I need to work on anyway

therift · August 2018

It is not rude to tag along and help. Everyone who applies some damage to monsters will gain experience points and get a loot drop scaled to your character's level, so you aren't depriving the other player(s) of benefits by helping. The game is designed around players working together.

Lysette · August 2018

therift wrote: »

It is not rude to tag along and help. Everyone who applies some damage to monsters will gain experience points and get a loot drop scaled to your character's level, so you aren't depriving the other player(s) of benefits by helping. The game is designed around players working together.

This is good to know, because sometimes I felt really bad when jumping onto a target just to feel a moment later, that a sorc was casting a spell on the target - and I killed it more rapidly with my blade and diving cliff racers. So if he gets something as well, I do no longer have to be sorry to have jumped onto a target, which "belonged" to someone else.

Kagukan · August 2018

No it is not rude to tag along. I have had a few people I noticed following me around. I have no problem with it and I usually ask them if they need anything else in the area.

Nestor · August 2018

Any time I am im a dungeon and a low level is there I slow down and see if they want to tag along. Some do, some dont.

There are no kill steals in the game, in fact two get an exp boost. True, 4 or more drop the exp for everyone, but that does not happen all that often.

Now, it is nice to send out a ty or thank you at the end of the delve.

If your PC NA, send me an email in game and I can get you in a couple helpful social guilds that run all kinds of content, but do so for fun. Same name as here, @nestor

Tinkie · August 2018

Thank you all for the help. I haven't been eating any food in game so I suppose I should spend a bit more time doing that. Also, I never seem to find anywhere to sleep. Do we even sleep in this game? I got a bed from doing some quest but can't even figure out how to put it in my room.
Here is a shot of my character.

Tinkie · August 2018

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Minyassa · August 2018

Nope, you're good! If you want to be sure that everyone has a chance to get xp and loot, just make sure everyone "taps" the mob, which just means they hit it with an attack. Sometimes if I am with someone who's lower level and I know I might blitz through a mob before they can do much to it, I'll hold back and let them hit it first and then go at it. Conversely if you have all your slayer deeds done you can do a lighter attack and soften it up and then let them finish it off.

You may have good luck in zone chat (type: "/zone" to get into that channel) asking for help with bosses. If people ask you to invite them, right-click on their name in chat to get the option to invite them to a party. Then you can type "/g" to talk to them in Group chat.

Kudos to you caring about whether you were being rude, never change. The game needs more people who care.

JimmyJuJu · August 2018

Stick with it. You will get better, you will meet friends, you will join guilds, you will do dungeons & trials, you will do PvP. You will "git gud".

You will meet a lot of great people, and some who are not. Just like in real life. Even with it's flaws, this is a wonderfully immersive game. Just - keep going.

Lysette · August 2018

Tinkie wrote: »

Thank you all for the help. I haven't been eating any food in game so I suppose I should spend a bit more time doing that. Also, I never seem to find anywhere to sleep. Do we even sleep in this game? I got a bed from doing some quest but can't even figure out how to put it in my room.
Here is a shot of my character.

You don't have to sleep. If you want to place your bed in your house - press F5 to invoke the editor - then use the browse button (it's R to me) to select the bed, select it as preview via the mouse and press E to place it - then you can move it around until you are liking it and then you finish positioning by left-clicking your mouse (iirc). You can pick it up again as well with the mouse, if you are not satisfied with the result. Pressing F5 again leaves edit mode afterwards. You cannot lay in that bed though, it is just for display. I tend to put a cat pet on my bed, she looks so lovely monkeying around on it.

Radox0 · August 2018

Tinkie wrote: »

Thank you all for the help. I haven't been eating any food in game so I suppose I should spend a bit more time doing that. Also, I never seem to find anywhere to sleep. Do we even sleep in this game? I got a bed from doing some quest but can't even figure out how to put it in my room.
Here is a shot of my character.

No you dont sleep in this game

But yes, always having some kind of food / drink on the go is very useful, may not seem important at the start (or at least did not to me) when I see other skills I want to level up, but they really help boost stats.

Looking at your image you added, my quick comment would be In terms of attributes, not sure what sort of build your going for, Magika (staves / spells etc) or Stamina based and only reason I say that is because you have Attributes in all three sections. Generally speaking your damage scales off your primary attribut so Magika if your use magic weapons / spells and Stamina if your running physical weapons / bow's etc.Its usually why you will see most people trying to maximise damage by putting all their points into magika or stamina, with maby a few points in health or make up health via food or glyph.

Lysette · August 2018

Well, stats 7/8/7 - instead of 22/0/0 for magicka character or 0/0/22 for stamina character - this is where your lack of attack strength comes from. Then I guess your gear does not have the healthy trait and is not enchanted with additional health - this is how to build up your health at lower levels, not via attribute points. Then use 2 rings and an amulet - best with healthy trait or your favorite attribute - like arcane for magicka or robust for stamina - enchanted with health regen - this would help a lot.

Lysette · August 2018

As far as enchantments go, you have to cater the runes to the level of your gear - not to your character level. If you use a piece with level 14 for example, you have to use a rune made for level 10 on it - like jera oko denata for a blue health armor rune level 10+. the first rune decides about the level and where the resulting enchantment can be used. The 2nd one decides about what kind of enchantment it will be. and the 3rd is to decide about the quality. At your level you need at least 1 point in rune quality for green quality runes of your level and 1 in each of both for blue quality. From level 20 on you need 2 in quality to make level 20 enchantments. Play around with this, you need the experience anyway to advance your enchanting skills.

Lysette · August 2018

Ok, I made a screen shot of my level 17 bosmer character to show you, what stats can be achieved, if you follow all those steps which I mentioned above - just to show, that these numbers are very much achievable - with just blue gear and blue food and blue enchantments - plus mundus stone.

https://imgur.com/a/glDRjjN

raj72616a · August 2018

ESO has no kill stealing, everyone who hit the mob get full xp and their own loot. chests, heavy sacks, ore vein etc are for one person only in open world. chests and heavy sacks in 4 man group dungeons and 12 man trials are for everyone, everyone can get a set of loot from each of the lootbox.

for open world, most people only group up for dolmens and world bosses. world boss because of difficulty, dolmens because of xp efficiency, since you get xp and loot for all the mob your groupmates kill if they are near.

for group dungeons and trials, everyone is in group and get the all xp and loots anyway. one thing to note is that set equipments dropped there are bound to your account and cannot be sold to other players, with the exception that you have a small time frame to trade it between group member who fought in the same dungeon.
it's typically acceptable to ask others to give you equipments that they dont need.

firedrgn · August 2018

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Im sure we can find some trouble.

Poms · August 2018

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Ardentia · August 2018

All the previous advice is good, I am just wondering what bosses and quests you are referring to?
I am also a solo and very casual pve player, but I don't remember having end bosses in my leveling experience, much less it being often, and much less in quests and so many for them to piling up, this is somewhat puzzling.

Give us some examples, what zones and quests have you been doing, which bosses?

Lysette · August 2018

Ardentia wrote: »

All the previous advice is good, I am just wondering what bosses and quests you are referring to?
I am also a solo and very casual pve player, but I don't remember having end bosses in my leveling experience, much less it being often, and much less in quests and so many for them to piling up, this is somewhat puzzling.

Give us some examples, what zones and quests have you been doing, which bosses?

You have seen the stats of him - everything at the end of a quest is feeling like a boss with those stats, because there is no sustain for longer than a couple of seconds with this and lack of attack strength - then everything more than usual is a boss.

Tinkie · August 2018

Wow, I never expected this thread to fall so far back so fast. I guess I was late coming back to it. Just to let you all know, I am doing better I believe. I have worked on enchanting and just random exploring and gathering and have now leveled up to a 20 thanks to the many suggestions I've gotten here. I've enchanted some armor with health and that has helped quite a lot with my lasting longer in a fight and when I gained a level I got to add points to my magicka and put them all on magicka. So I do believe I'm getting the hang of it. I've not gone back to try and complete the quests I was having trouble with but do plan to soon after I make some loot and get some better enchantments on my armor.
I'm also thinking about just starting a new character after I learn a bit more about the game.

Anyway, I just wanted to come back to say thank you for all the good advice I got here just for the asking. It really is a fun game and I hope to enjoy playing for a long while. Soon enough I may be brave enough to add a few online friends.