An exciting upcoming Monday, August 13th

Bananko · August 2018

The Wolfhunter DLC pack arrives for this game on PC/Mac on the same day that the Battle for Azeroth expansion arrives for WoW in the U.S. (and on the next day for the rest of the world).

Was that on purpose or just a coincidence (Monday the 13th, perhaps?)?

MrGarlic · August 2018

This one does not share the same level of excitement as the OP.

Other's distance varies of course.

Waffennacht · August 2018

I'm on console, so... 27th is more exciting

psxfloh · August 2018

Bananko wrote: »

The Wolfhunter DLC pack arrives for this game on PC/Mac on the same day that the Battle for Azeroth expansion arrives for WoW in the U.S. (and on the next day for the rest of the world).

Was that on purpose or just a coincidence (Monday the 13th, perhaps?)?

"Never play on a patch day"... so I'd say it's a social experiment.
Both games unplayable for maybe the whole day, what will the "kids" do? Play outside? Watch p*rn all day long? hmm..?

ArchMikem · August 2018

The 13th is just another day for Console players.

MLGProPlayer · August 2018

I'm not sure how anyone can still play WoW. It hasn't aged well at all.

- Looks worse than mobile games today
- Oudated, passive combat system
- Grind-based vertical progression
- Repetitive quests

It's not a good video game.

Cously · August 2018

WOW is Justin Bieber. ESO is Mozart.

FloppyTouch · August 2018

Eh I find myself really not caring at all about these dungeon DLC. I do them on normal once then on vet once then never return. I'm done with this content in just a few hours.

Would rather them just add real content like a new part of a map with the dungeons in them.

Do people really get that excited over 2 dungeons?

Marabornwingrion · August 2018

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Eh I find myself really not caring at all about these dungeon DLC. I do them on normal once then on vet once then never return. I'm done with this content in just a few hours.

Would rather them just add real content like a new part of a map with the dungeons in them.

Do people really get that excited over 2 dungeons?

Some people like to progress speed run + HM + no death achievements.

jeedrzej · August 2018

You will be suprised but for some players "real content" is dungeons, not new part of the map.

I would say more. Some players complain when ZOS releases new update without dungeons, just like you complein about new update without part of map.

Its all about preferences

Tasear · August 2018

skill points for jelwery crafting!

ValkynSketha · August 2018

I am really more excited for bfa than wolfhunter or in general any dlc/expansion in eso after morrowind tbh, both are great games tho and i enjoy both, still waiting for spell crafting to come one day hopefully with the next chapter.

neverwalk · August 2018

My question is: What will ZOS break this update ?

Elsterchen · August 2018

FloppyTouch wrote: »

Eh I find myself really not caring at all about these dungeon DLC. I do them on normal once then on vet once then never return. I'm done with this content in just a few hours.

Would rather them just add real content like a new part of a map with the dungeons in them.

Do people really get that excited over 2 dungeons?

I would usually agree... not much of a dungeon runner, too.

BUT this time there is alot in stock for my templar, nice changes for jewellery crafting ... and finally quite interesting sets to be obtained. So i am rather on the happy and eager-to-get-going side this Dungeon-update.

@neverwalk They will find something for sure ... probably not the most obvious (i.e. messed up attack speed or damage with the new gear or anything like that) but I am pretty sure something will be broken beyond repair.

On the other hand ... imagine an update without complains. Now that would be boring, wouldn't it? ^^

RedTalon · August 2018

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Logaritmio · August 2018

WoW? The game I played one character to level 14 and then ditched the game?

I should have started with TESO earlier but friends did not recommend it. Not until now with one Tamriel and no level segregation. Wonderful. Friends with different time to play can play together. The storytelling. Enough quests to have something to do for years. On top of this the new DLC's between chapters keep the game fresh.

WoW is not an option so I don't care if an expansion is released on or within a day a DLC is in TESO. Some friends may be absent for a few days until they have done the expansion.

RexyCat · August 2018

Bananko wrote: »

The Wolfhunter DLC pack arrives for this game on PC/Mac on the same day that the Battle for Azeroth expansion arrives for WoW in the U.S. (and on the next day for the rest of the world).

Was that on purpose or just a coincidence (Monday the 13th, perhaps?)?

It isn't Friday the 13th, is it? I am too scared to open launcher for an update...Freddy Krueger will probably show his ugly face again as the Big Bug Maker....

Doctordarkspawn · August 2018

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

I'm not sure how anyone can still play WoW. It hasn't aged well at all.

- Looks worse than mobile games today
- Oudated, passive combat system
- Grind-based vertical progression
- Repetitive quests

It's not a good video game.

Disclaimer: I dont play WoW but I hate this assessment. Played it briefly during Warlords but didn't like it enough to stay.

- Players who care too much about graphics are shooting themselves in the foot
- And yet still leagues better then ESO's from what I played of it. Yeah I'll stand by that.
- Like this game's progression isn't?
- The only reason people dont say the same about ESO's is the writing.

Iselin · August 2018

The coincidental release on the same day is meaningless. There is no competition between a tiny, 2-dungeon, routine, quarterly update and a heavily hyped, once-every-two-years WOW expansion.

Except in the minds of WOW fans a world wide holiday should be declared and anything else that was to happen on the 13th-14th should be canceled including births and deaths.

I just went through this at MMORPG.COM a few days ago when one of their staff writers thought that the Wolfhunter release on the 13th was a bad move... lol... irrelevant coincidence is more like it.

Elsterchen · August 2018

Logaritmio wrote: »

WoW? The game I played one character to level 14 and then ditched the game?

I should have started with TESO earlier but friends did not recommend it. Not until now with one Tamriel and no level segregation. Wonderful. Friends with different time to play can play together. The storytelling. Enough quests to have something to do for years. On top of this the new DLC's between chapters keep the game fresh.

WoW is not an option so I don't care if an expansion is released on or within a day a DLC is in TESO. Some friends may be absent for a few days until they have done the expansion.

^So much this ! Only exeption beeing that I just needed one WE of playing my brothers WoW account to find out, its boring combat system just isn't the thing I am looking for. ... and just to add: I admit, I usually can be hyped very easily for any fantasy/RP trash thats showing any sign of engaging uniqueness.

Epona222 · August 2018

Thing is, the 2 things are not appealing to the same group of people - sure there may be some overlap, but a great number of us in ESO couldn't give a brass monkey about what is going on in other games- didn't know there was an update/dlc there, didn't care, still don't care now I know. It is completely and utterly irrelevant.

Doctordarkspawn · August 2018

Iselin wrote: »

The coincidental release on the same day is meaningless. There is no competition between a tiny, 2-dungeon, routine, quarterly update and a heavily hyped, once-every-two-years WOW expansion.

Except in the minds of WOW fans a world wide holiday should be declared and anything else that was to happen on the 13th-14th should be canceled including births and deaths.

I just went through this at MMORPG.COM a few days ago when one of their staff writers thought that the Wolfhunter release on the 13th was a bad move... lol... irrelevant coincidence is more like it.

...Not really.

This is like another shooter launching on the same day as a call of duty game back in the day. More people will buy call of duty which will impact the first two weeks of sales, a games most important week. This is the same thing but given the DLC pack in question, I think ZOS is confident that the audience it's made for will stick around to play it.

Azuramoonstar · August 2018

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

I'm not sure how anyone can still play WoW. It hasn't aged well at all.

- Looks worse than mobile games today
- Oudated, passive combat system
- Grind-based vertical progression
- Repetitive quests

It's not a good video game.

+1

i thought this when it came out lol. i was like "zelda oot looks better then this"

Dracane · August 2018

At least ESO's content stays relevant and you can always do it. In WoW, you grind through the expansion and everything you have earned in previous expansions will become totally irrelevant and there is no reason to ever go back there. Same will happen to this expansion.

In ESO, you can play years old content and still profit from it.

Coatmagic · August 2018

*kids* bwhaha.. imagine all the babies that will born in 9 months xD

Iselin · August 2018

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

The coincidental release on the same day is meaningless. There is no competition between a tiny, 2-dungeon, routine, quarterly update and a heavily hyped, once-every-two-years WOW expansion.

Except in the minds of WOW fans a world wide holiday should be declared and anything else that was to happen on the 13th-14th should be canceled including births and deaths.

I just went through this at MMORPG.COM a few days ago when one of their staff writers thought that the Wolfhunter release on the 13th was a bad move... lol... irrelevant coincidence is more like it.

...Not really.

This is like another shooter launching on the same day as a call of duty game back in the day. More people will buy call of duty which will impact the first two weeks of sales, a games most important week. This is the same thing but given the DLC pack in question, I think ZOS is confident that the audience it's made for will stick around to play it.

Nothing like that. It's nothing like too competing shooters launching on the same day. This is a small DLC that a lot of people don't even buy and many get included for free with a sub. Battle for Azeroth is something totally different with a whole year of hype, TV ads, etc. behind it that was pre-sold and must be bought to play it today.

The closest ESO has ever come to trying to promote an addition on a WOW xpac scale was Morrowind. If we were talking about Morrowind and Battle for Azeroth launching on the same day that would be a different discussion where strategically favorable launch dates should be considered.

You either know nothing about what kind of DLC Wolfhunter is or you're blinded by the WOW hype and think anything else even remotely related to it should step aside.

Doctordarkspawn · August 2018

Iselin wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

The coincidental release on the same day is meaningless. There is no competition between a tiny, 2-dungeon, routine, quarterly update and a heavily hyped, once-every-two-years WOW expansion.

Except in the minds of WOW fans a world wide holiday should be declared and anything else that was to happen on the 13th-14th should be canceled including births and deaths.

I just went through this at MMORPG.COM a few days ago when one of their staff writers thought that the Wolfhunter release on the 13th was a bad move... lol... irrelevant coincidence is more like it.

...Not really.

This is like another shooter launching on the same day as a call of duty game back in the day. More people will buy call of duty which will impact the first two weeks of sales, a games most important week. This is the same thing but given the DLC pack in question, I think ZOS is confident that the audience it's made for will stick around to play it.

Nothing like that. It's nothing like too competing shooters launching on the same day. This is a small DLC that a lot of people don't even buy and many get included for free with a sub. Battle for Azeroth is something totally different with a whole year of hype, TV ads, etc. behind it that was pre-sold and must be bought to play it today.

The closest ESO has ever come to trying to promote an addition on a WOW xpac scale was Morrowind. If we were talking about Morrowind and Battle for Azeroth launching on the same day that would be a different discussion where strategically favorable launch dates should be considered.

You either know nothing about what kind of DLC Wolfhunter is or you're blinded by the WOW hype and think anything else even remotely related to it should step aside.

Uhh, what?

I agreed with you. I litterally just agreed with you, the point was that wolf-hunter was never trying to compete and that it was niche content for a audience that ZOS thinks will stick around. Perhaps read before dismissing other peoples posts.

The only reason ZOS would release on the same day is if they were not competeing, and they are not. They are releasing hardcore content for their hardcore audience which is distinctly different from WoW's entire fanbase by default.

And if your going to somehow say that I'm a WoW fanboy despite all that: I played the game for a few weeks during warlords of Draenor, and never picked it up ever again. I think it does alot of things well, but my motor control damage keeps me from playing anything that I need more then ten ability slots to play correctly on a keyboard, thus I never got into it. You're assumptions do you no credit.

@Iselin

Azuramoonstar · August 2018

Dracane wrote: »

At least ESO's content stays relevant and you can always do it. In WoW, you grind through the expansion and everything you have earned in previous expansions will become totally irrelevant and there is no reason to ever go back there. Same will happen to this expansion.

In ESO, you can play years old content and still profit from it.

ya that was a big selling point for the old ff11 community, content was never obsolete and had good short content, and long term content.

shame SE alienated its player base by making the abyssea dlc which made everything obsolete over night.

They doing the same with ff14, except at a faster pace, content only lasts that patch before it is made obsolete the next patch, and patches are 3-4 months apart. I quit ff14 for eso because of that, and the final straw was removing the limitation to cross role skills, where you had up to 5 slots to add bonus skills, but flat out removed them ff14 suffers from button bloat, and slowly makes playing on a console near impossible, as there are not enough buttons to do skills.

And just hate the removal of limitations and choice. I'm the type of player that would have an illusion of choice, then just getting all the skills. To me it just waters down a system.

Dracane · August 2018

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

The coincidental release on the same day is meaningless. There is no competition between a tiny, 2-dungeon, routine, quarterly update and a heavily hyped, once-every-two-years WOW expansion.

Except in the minds of WOW fans a world wide holiday should be declared and anything else that was to happen on the 13th-14th should be canceled including births and deaths.

I just went through this at MMORPG.COM a few days ago when one of their staff writers thought that the Wolfhunter release on the 13th was a bad move... lol... irrelevant coincidence is more like it.

...Not really.

This is like another shooter launching on the same day as a call of duty game back in the day. More people will buy call of duty which will impact the first two weeks of sales, a games most important week. This is the same thing but given the DLC pack in question, I think ZOS is confident that the audience it's made for will stick around to play it.

Nothing like that. It's nothing like too competing shooters launching on the same day. This is a small DLC that a lot of people don't even buy and many get included for free with a sub. Battle for Azeroth is something totally different with a whole year of hype, TV ads, etc. behind it that was pre-sold and must be bought to play it today.

The closest ESO has ever come to trying to promote an addition on a WOW xpac scale was Morrowind. If we were talking about Morrowind and Battle for Azeroth launching on the same day that would be a different discussion where strategically favorable launch dates should be considered.

You either know nothing about what kind of DLC Wolfhunter is or you're blinded by the WOW hype and think anything else even remotely related to it should step aside.

Uhh, what?

I agreed with you. I litterally just agreed with you, the point was that wolf-hunter was never trying to compete and that it was niche content for a audience that ZOS thinks will stick around. Perhaps read before dismissing other peoples posts.

@Iselin

I admit, I dislike those Dungeon DLC's. I think they are so unnecessary and those dungeons should just be included with some zone expansion, rather than hyping up an entire quarter DLC with something that I force myself through ones and then hope to never be forced to play through again with all these lazy Oblivion damage one shot mechanics.

But in any case, we can't compare ESO to WoW or any other MMO really. ESO is different, creative and unique. But it will never be as popular as an old MMO like WoW that has so much nostalgia for many people. So we should stop comparing them.

Doctordarkspawn · August 2018

Dracane wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

Iselin wrote: »

The coincidental release on the same day is meaningless. There is no competition between a tiny, 2-dungeon, routine, quarterly update and a heavily hyped, once-every-two-years WOW expansion.

Except in the minds of WOW fans a world wide holiday should be declared and anything else that was to happen on the 13th-14th should be canceled including births and deaths.

I just went through this at MMORPG.COM a few days ago when one of their staff writers thought that the Wolfhunter release on the 13th was a bad move... lol... irrelevant coincidence is more like it.

...Not really.

This is like another shooter launching on the same day as a call of duty game back in the day. More people will buy call of duty which will impact the first two weeks of sales, a games most important week. This is the same thing but given the DLC pack in question, I think ZOS is confident that the audience it's made for will stick around to play it.

Nothing like that. It's nothing like too competing shooters launching on the same day. This is a small DLC that a lot of people don't even buy and many get included for free with a sub. Battle for Azeroth is something totally different with a whole year of hype, TV ads, etc. behind it that was pre-sold and must be bought to play it today.

The closest ESO has ever come to trying to promote an addition on a WOW xpac scale was Morrowind. If we were talking about Morrowind and Battle for Azeroth launching on the same day that would be a different discussion where strategically favorable launch dates should be considered.

You either know nothing about what kind of DLC Wolfhunter is or you're blinded by the WOW hype and think anything else even remotely related to it should step aside.

Uhh, what?

I agreed with you. I litterally just agreed with you, the point was that wolf-hunter was never trying to compete and that it was niche content for a audience that ZOS thinks will stick around. Perhaps read before dismissing other peoples posts.

@Iselin

I admit, I dislike those Dungeon DLC's. I think they are so unnecessary and those dungeons should just be included with some zone expansion, rather than hyping up an entire quarter DLC with something that I force myself through ones and then hope to never be forced to play through again with all these lazy Oblivion damage one shot mechanics.

But in any case, we can't compare ESO to WoW or any other MMO really. ESO is different, creative and unique. But it will never be as popular as an old MMO like WoW that has so much nostalgia for many people. So we should stop comparing them.

We cant. I was just trying to point out -why- people might think that releasing it on the same day was a bad idea because there's previous precident in the industry for that, just not with this genre or situation.

...Though, personally, I hate the DLC's. I never bought another after shadows of the hist because I downright hated both those dungeons and it's clear that their there for the minmaxing, hardcore audience and no one else. I pay ESO plus for now, which means I get access to them, and never will I run them above normal.

Dracane · August 2018

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

We cant. I was just trying to point out -why- people might think that releasing it on the same day was a bad idea because there's previous precident in the industry for that, just not with this genre or situation.

...Though, personally, I hate the DLC's. I never bought another after shadows of the hist because I downright hated both those dungeons and it's clear that their there for the minmaxing, hardcore audience and no one else. I pay ESO plus for now, which means I get access to them, and never will I run them above normal.

I know. These comparisons are of course non sensual, because I doubt that ZoS did this as an offense to challenge WoW. It could however be an attempt from ZoS to prevent some players from leaving, damage control so to say.

I as well would never ever pay money to access those dungeon DLC's. I get them with ESO+ and will clear them on veteran (I never do normal runs of anything, that is just a waste of time for nothing) and after that, I never enter them again and skip all pledge days. I am in love with WGT and ICP though and always do them.

That's when dungeons used to be fair. After shadows of the hist, DLC dungeons became a 1 shot fest and a clear attempts of the devs to figure out even more unfair, lazy and unecessary one shot events with each DLC to create an illusion of a challenge that is not there and of course, finding ways on how to screw over light armor users and make damage shields useless. It keeps getting worse and worse and the Dragon Bone Dungeons are thus far the apex of hatred.

We shall see about Wolfhunter.