Why Spider cult and not Julianos?

jabrone77 wrote: »

Are you talking about this build?
https://youtu.be/sqcdNUJg7Qs

I use it and easily hit 35k/40k on a constant basis since summerset came out and changed two handers counting as a two piece.

Xynode did update the build for Summerset, but I still find the old set up to be extremely effective, so up to you what version you prefer.
https://youtu.be/R-ab7iNWi5M

And yeah, Spider Cult and Netch are a great combo to run. Players are always suprised to hear what I'm running after they ask how I'm just melting mobs and bosses. Also have been able to solo alot of vet dungeons using this build.

mot following any specific builds, for one i don't use bound armor i wont use it unless i get extra new skill slot for it (& second for innerlight would be nicer, slots for constant buffs only, u cant put normal spells there), innerlight i added once & my crit rate number remained same so either inner is broken or sorc crit rate is, crit rate 60% while my melee DK orc has 70 (even bit over) & cat 81, my sorc should at least have 70% or bit over to with my current sets + innerlight

& i don't mic match different types of armor like heavy & light, if i am in light i am full light


also i build for PVE & PVP not just for pvp or PVE, not jack of all trades master of none build, but master of both build, so it would be just matter of rotation if i want to do one or the other, so doing my own thing


i achieved it with my Cat NB bow/bow build with crit to be both at good solos PVE & it should be good in PVP to, in war map cause my build is about making 1 or 2 hits & then run & hide & repeat

Dont run spider cult, it doesnt do anything for your class skills.

Julianos, Mothers Sorrow or even Spinner are a lot better in each and every way.

Alpha-Lupi wrote: »

Instead of going for near full blown critical, why not pure damage, like nirnhoned or the like, because if necessary, you could always go with the mechanical acuity set, dealing direct damage (abilities such as the volatile familiars ability, sets like Valkyn Skoria, etc.) has a small chance to grant 5 seconds of Guaranteed Critical hits, once every 18 seconds.

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Mechanical_Acuity

You may rack up slightly more dps, you may not, it depends on how well you employ your own rotation.

does pure damage mean cp points on penetration & no crit damage?


@Taleof2Cities

i have 10 or 15 point on crit resist skills not enough points, or my other resists go down so cant even put point on blessed & i have seen shields in work u can't damage any1 cause ur always spamming hardened ward (untill u run out of MP cause u manage to do little damage with skills to) so shields suck in my opinion at lest for PVP sometimes can save u in PVE (like when u know new boss uses skill that 1hits u & u cast it fast), for one low duration & ppl make a lot of damage, so my experience with shield is bad, like i said somewhat useful in PVE, there are so meany CP skills that i don't know witch is better then others, maybe i should just take this 3 light armor bonus & spellshield & ctit resist but i also have taken iron skin & skills that reduces the damage i take from DPS, the CP sys is way to complicated for my brain (maybe my cp build is allover the place, like i am trying to be jack of all trades & i say like not that i am, dont know)

my CP lvl 380 or 90 something, so close to 400


u said: It’s a lot easier to theorycraft PvP and adapt to PvE (e.g. vet dungeons) than the other way around.

ME: thats why i made my cat NB bow/bow build, bar 1 single target what i also use in PVE & second bar more for PVE AOE & buffs


@Septimus_Magna

not arguing against what u said, just saying i use staff skills & sorc skills if i would run Spider Cult and Netch like some1 suggested i would get benefit for both & double for the staff skills cause one gives for staff skills & other1 for shock

small problem with sorrow its in the world not dung so hared to find & u wont get purple

its just the way u said it was like staff skills are crap u should use sorc skills only, but sorc doesn't have any good fast attack skills, the ones he has are good to have, but crap if u only use them without staff skills


@jabrone77

when u count all the stuff i have put to get crit i should have 70% at least, i played around with innerlight took it off & put it back & once it was 63% & then it was back to 60, not big deal cause its just 3% but it should be 70% with stuff & thief boon + inner witch means 2 things either Bet has made a limiter for sorc cause they think sorc becomes OP with higher crit or its broken well at least the part that show crit is, who know maybe i have even 80%

my lowest on stam DPS char is 70 or 73 with thief boon & gear as much as crit as my stam chars gear + expert hunter & for sorc innerlight rest is same one set has only crit & other one has 1 or 2 times crit like stam chars


full light more damage & overall better that's why DPS is suppose to run in light & not heavy, u could if u just like it, but u sacrifice damage, its better to take fully advance of one unless u run hybrid



i did vlollenfell mormal solo with my sorc dam its hard in one way, slip up once & ur dead (u need to keep the dot on + do single target damage to kill boss faster, but if u cant cast surge or how was it called again fast enough if he knocks me down firs before i can it could mean my death, surge is heal, when i hit with skill it heals), its crazy lol, i doubt bow/bow warden or NB could do it, NB no good heals if ur stam & warden would just use all hes stam to heal & never kill anything cause of that, to him do it they would need to change leaching wines that hitting with skills heal u not normal attacks

treasurehunter spider combo & normal dung & u mentioned running vet dung solo, dam u must be top 5 ranking on leaders board then also higher cp rank then me + better CP build

bdw is the build with nech & spider good in PVP to?