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Things I have noticed about overwhelming surge set

Armatesz
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The set can multiproc but any additional procs does not refresh prior procs. For whatever reason unknown to me it looks like the set can crit, did a test where I was only using breath of life multiple times. The proc can be reflected back at you if someone is having projectiles reflected. It can be dodged if it is reflected back at you. When it does proc and you are surrounded by enemies they don't all zap at the same time, they go by the routine of when they were initiated and zap at regular intervals as it says till it is completed.
The set is a good choice if are a heavy magplar, where your armor pieces you can make as wyrd tree or seducer if you like, head and shoulder I recommend as iceheart. From what I can tell mag builds for classes that would get the best bonus from overwhelming surge would be templar and warden.
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  • Ectheliontnacil
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    Overwhelming surge = underwhelming set
  • Lexxypwns
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    Overwhelming surge = underwhelming set

    It’s the second best magika damage set in the game, behind on sload
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    Seen a lot of perma blocking Templar bol spammers running this set, it works really well for them. you know - for people that don't like to use skill to get kills.
  • Starlock
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    Overwhelming surge = underwhelming set

    Yeah, I really wanted to use it on my lightning mage, but the proc rate was terrible for the results given. If it proced on any skill it might be workable.
  • Armatesz
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Overwhelming surge = underwhelming set

    It’s the second best magika damage set in the game, behind on sload

    Sloads isn't a good set... that set literally tickles my build. You know what the moments that I actually die the death records say about sloats? 2 times death to sloads...
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  • Armatesz
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    Seen a lot of perma blocking Templar bol spammers running this set, it works really well for them. you know - for people that don't like to use skill to get kills.

    puncturing sweep can proc it, purifying light can proc it, radiant aura can proc it... all class abilities can proc it.
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  • Armatesz
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    Starlock wrote: »
    Overwhelming surge = underwhelming set

    Yeah, I really wanted to use it on my lightning mage, but the proc rate was terrible for the results given. If it proced on any skill it might be workable.

    I think the set more works better if you are able to cast class abilities at a frequent rate.
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  • Valrien
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    It used to be pretty great for Templar but idk about it now
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  • TankHealz2015
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    Could you/somebody post a build with this set

    PvE or PvP?

    role: tank? dps? other?

    what other sets combine well with this set?

    very curious...
  • thegreat_one
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    As far as I know it only affects the closest enemy to you correct?
    So if there was a group, it would apply a dot to the closest enemy every second.

    1 sec. X is closest , X has Dot applied for 12 seconds
    2 sec. Y is closest , Y has Dot applied for 12 seconds

    so on,

    But would not stack like below.

    1 sec. X is closest , X has Dot applied for 12 seconds
    2 sec. X is still closest , X has another Dot applied for 12 seconds.

    I believe if 3 people are running sloads, you could have 3 leeching clouds put on a single target. (stacks)
  • Armatesz
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    Could you/somebody post a build with this set

    PvE or PvP?

    role: tank? dps? other?

    what other sets combine well with this set?

    very curious...

    Pve and pvp for builds. It is well built for battlegrounds and imperial city, as for cyrodiil it varies how you are going about the build. I've personally killed zergs with this build. Worst case scenario someone could go against this build is a resource cost more build via poisons.
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  • Armatesz
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    As far as I know it only affects the closest enemy to you correct?
    So if there was a group, it would apply a dot to the closest enemy every second.

    1 sec. X is closest , X has Dot applied for 12 seconds
    2 sec. Y is closest , Y has Dot applied for 12 seconds

    so on,

    But would not stack like below.

    1 sec. X is closest , X has Dot applied for 12 seconds
    2 sec. X is still closest , X has another Dot applied for 12 seconds.

    I believe if 3 people are running sloads, you could have 3 leeching clouds put on a single target. (stacks)

    If there is 3 enemies you are fighting and if it multiprocs from what I have experienced it can target two different targets if they are both at the same distance. So don't be shocked if you see it hit two or 3 people of equal distances.
    The maximum amount of times I have had it proc at once was 3 procs, I can visually see the damage ticks for each so I know it has multi proc'd. I have tested at my own home with target dummies and it does the same thing.
    Edited by Armatesz on August 11, 2018 6:03PM
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  • Lexxypwns
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    Armatesz wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Overwhelming surge = underwhelming set

    It’s the second best magika damage set in the game, behind on sload

    Sloads isn't a good set... that set literally tickles my build. You know what the moments that I actually die the death records say about sloats? 2 times death to sloads...

    Sloads is the best single target damage set by a huge margin. There’s literally no debating that.
  • Baconlad
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    I tell you...overwhelming surge is AMAZING.

    It is considered AoE, it also will only hit the closest target, if u hit someone and they back up the next hit will hit whoever is closer.

    It will go through block and is undodgable due to it acting like a ground based dot. It will also pull nightblades out of stealth. If there's a Night blade blade around that cloaks right in front of me, I spam focus till it comes up, it will pull them out of stealth, thereby not gaining the benefits to stealth damage.

    A very good set for any magplar wanting to get into PVP small scale or solo 1vX to learn. Even for high end players
  • Armatesz
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Armatesz wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Overwhelming surge = underwhelming set

    It’s the second best magika damage set in the game, behind on sload

    Sloads isn't a good set... that set literally tickles my build. You know what the moments that I actually die the death records say about sloats? 2 times death to sloads...

    Sloads is the best single target damage set by a huge margin. There’s literally no debating that.

    Perhaps to some but I honestly don't view it as a threat, I've seen an entire team that had a sload build and I mopped the floor with them, so no I don't view it as a threat like some do.
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  • CatchMeTrolling
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    Overwhelming is pretty good on magplar, can be pretty cheesy on dps build.

    I’ve seen it proc on multiple people and npcs at some point, I’m sure that’s not intended. But you can visually see it hitting two different targets.
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    Tried it on my MagSorc, feel like there might be better options.
  • Lexxypwns
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    Armatesz wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Armatesz wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Overwhelming surge = underwhelming set

    It’s the second best magika damage set in the game, behind on sload

    Sloads isn't a good set... that set literally tickles my build. You know what the moments that I actually die the death records say about sloats? 2 times death to sloads...

    Sloads is the best single target damage set by a huge margin. There’s literally no debating that.

    Perhaps to some but I honestly don't view it as a threat, I've seen an entire team that had a sload build and I mopped the floor with them, so no I don't view it as a threat like some do.

    And have you used the set?

    Because baddies are gonna suck regardless but with a smart player who is building around it...

    Combining Surge+Sload+Skoria or Sload+Masters DW+TBaB&Heavy weapons bleeds or pairing Sload with defile are all ridiculously OP
  • Sheezabeast
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    I love this set on my magplar! I run it with 5 wizards riposte and 2 Zaan, with SnB and destro staff. Very fun setup!
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Combining Surge+Sload+Skoria or Sload+Masters DW+TBaB&Heavy weapons bleeds or pairing Sload with defile are all ridiculously OP

    Especially on No-CP.
    eisley the worst
  • WaltherCarraway
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    Surge is the arch-nemesis of nightblades trying to get in stealth.
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  • Drdeath20
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    Surge is the arch-nemesis of nightblades trying to get in stealth.

    Lol
  • WaltherCarraway
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    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    Surge is the arch-nemesis of nightblades trying to get in stealth.

    Lol


    oooh, shadow image? It has other counterplay too.
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  • Drdeath20
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    Drdeath20 wrote: »
    Surge is the arch-nemesis of nightblades trying to get in stealth.

    Lol


    oooh, shadow image? It has other counterplay too.

    I get what you are saying but praying to RNGesus that repentance procs the surge fast enough is living a little too much on the edge for my taste
  • generalmyrick
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    Seen a lot of perma blocking Templar bol spammers running this set, it works really well for them. you know - for people that don't like to use skill to get kills.

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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Armatesz wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Overwhelming surge = underwhelming set

    It’s the second best magika damage set in the game, behind on sload

    Sloads isn't a good set... that set literally tickles my build. You know what the moments that I actually die the death records say about sloats? 2 times death to sloads...

    Sloads is the best single target damage set by a huge margin. There’s literally no debating that.

    Shouldn't mad tinkerer by default be better single target damage? if it connects..
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    DanteYoda wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Armatesz wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Overwhelming surge = underwhelming set

    It’s the second best magika damage set in the game, behind on sload

    Sloads isn't a good set... that set literally tickles my build. You know what the moments that I actually die the death records say about sloats? 2 times death to sloads...

    Sloads is the best single target damage set by a huge margin. There’s literally no debating that.

    Shouldn't mad tinkerer by default be better single target damage? if it connects..

    Mad Tinkerer is so bad, it will miss a DPS dummy that's right in front of you.
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  • Armatesz
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    DanteYoda wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Armatesz wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Overwhelming surge = underwhelming set

    It’s the second best magika damage set in the game, behind on sload

    Sloads isn't a good set... that set literally tickles my build. You know what the moments that I actually die the death records say about sloats? 2 times death to sloads...

    Sloads is the best single target damage set by a huge margin. There’s literally no debating that.

    Shouldn't mad tinkerer by default be better single target damage? if it connects..

    Mad Tinkerer is so bad, it will miss a DPS dummy that's right in front of you.

    Yeah mad tinkerer is sadly a bad set because of it constantly missing.
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