Necropotence on a Magblade? o.O

RavenRoxie · August 2018

For PvP I normally run on my magsorc or my magwarden. But, I am finally trying to make a magblade. I have gone through lots of different builds just to get an idea of what works well for magblades and what doesn't. I hope to make my final build be a bomb blade (Yea, sorry, I'm one of those nerds lol) But, right now I am just leveling, playing in under 50 PvP, and just learning the class in general. Anyway, I am seeing alot of builds using Necropotence sets and I am confused as to why? Obviously it has lots of max magicka but is there even any skill that a magblade would use to proc the 5th bonus? Am I missing something here? LoL... In the end wouldn't Seducer end up being better? o.O

Marabornwingrion · August 2018

Shade is nightblade pet.

Ectheliontnacil · August 2018

Well if you want to be a bomblade I think you missed the opportunity. Won't proxy det now draw you out of invisibility once the new patch goes live?

FrancisCrawford · August 2018

Astrid_V wrote: »

Shade is nightblade pet.

But does Necropotence on a bomb blade still make sense now that the shade is strictly an in-combat skill?

exeeter702 · August 2018

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Astrid_V wrote: »

Shade is nightblade pet.

But does Necropotence on a bomb blade still make sense now that the shade is strictly an in-combat skill?

Its not. Shade can be cast targetless and out of combat.

RavenRoxie · August 2018

exeeter702 wrote: »

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Astrid_V wrote: »

Shade is nightblade pet.

But does Necropotence on a bomb blade still make sense now that the shade is strictly an in-combat skill?

Its not. Shade can be cast targetless and out of combat.

Oooh I didnt realize Shade counted as a pet, thanks ^.^

Ectheliontnacil wrote: »

Well if you want to be a bomblade I think yiu missed the opportunity. Won't proxy det now draw you out of invisibility once the new patch goes live?

I don't know, if that's the case, I'm sure people will figure out other ways to make bomb blading happen lol

FrancisCrawford · August 2018

exeeter702 wrote: »

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Astrid_V wrote: »

Shade is nightblade pet.

But does Necropotence on a bomb blade still make sense now that the shade is strictly an in-combat skill?

Its not. Shade can be cast targetless and out of combat.

You're right. My apologies for the error.

I'm pretty sure there was some change along those lines, but it evidently wasn't as extreme as I thought.

ak_pvp · August 2018

Ectheliontnacil wrote: »

Well if you want to be a bomblade I think yiu missed the opportunity. Won't proxy det now draw you out of invisibility once the new patch goes live?

No more than what it does now, currently it reveals for a split second but then restealths until the explosion. Also next patch is best time with balorgh.

RavenRoxie · August 2018

ak_pvp wrote: »

Ectheliontnacil wrote: »

Well if you want to be a bomblade I think yiu missed the opportunity. Won't proxy det now draw you out of invisibility once the new patch goes live?

No more than what it does now, currently it reveals for a split second but then restealths until the explosion. Also next patch is best time with balorgh.

Yeah, was thinking that set might be something I may want for the final build once I hit 50 hehe

RavenRoxie · August 2018

Thank you for the info guys! I am totally noob when it comes to nightblade life so this helped alot

LadyLavina · August 2018

@RavenRoxie

Necroblade is hilarious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNwunVNXbIA

BigBadVolk · August 2018

Ectheliontnacil wrote: »

Well if you want to be a bomblade I think you missed the opportunity. Won't proxy det now draw you out of invisibility once the new patch goes live?

it already does, you can recloak always

JumpmanLane · August 2018

RavenRoxie wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

Ectheliontnacil wrote: »

Well if you want to be a bomblade I think yiu missed the opportunity. Won't proxy det now draw you out of invisibility once the new patch goes live?

No more than what it does now, currently it reveals for a split second but then restealths until the explosion. Also next patch is best time with balorgh.

Yeah, was thinking that set might be something I may want for the final build once I hit 50 hehe

Tons of magicka. I was thinking 1 Grothdarr 1 Ilambris maybe too

Lexxypwns · August 2018

Necro is just OK on mageblade

thankyourat · August 2018

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Necro is just OK on mageblade

I disagree I find it almost mandatory if you are going to play light armor. I've tried other damage sets and from a damage perspective they feel just as good, but my shields are too small if I'm not using necro. On a non necro build I will sit at around a 9k dampen and with necro builds I can get that to 13k as well as open up the option to using harness which is super OP. Which sets would you put ahead of necro on a light armor magblade?

Lexxypwns · August 2018

thankyourat wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Necro is just OK on mageblade

I disagree I find it almost mandatory if you are going to play light armor. I've tried other damage sets and from a damage perspective they feel just as good, but my shields are too small if I'm not using necro. On a non necro build I will sit at around a 9k dampen and with necro builds I can get that to 13k as well as open up the option to using harness which is super OP. Which sets would you put ahead of necro on a light armor magblade?

Eh, stacking max Magika in place of Spell damage is a good way to end up with less burst. At that point I can’t see why you bother with light armor since Heavy has much greater synergy with pressure builds whereas Light is superior for big burst builds, IMO.

I prefer 5-5-2-2 setups with a backbar defensive set and front bar offensive.

I struggle to see Necro+Shackle being better than Lich/Trans/Wizard’s+BSW/Sload/Spinners+2 willpower. I also don’t see how it’s better than Shackle+Amber.

Overall I think Necro is a good option but certainly not the best. It gives 0 regen and middle of the road damage which means you need to add more damage and cover all your regen needs from outside sources. You either need to run Atro, WM, or sacrifice jewelry glyphs for regen whereas a set like BSW/Spinners gives you significantly more damage and Amber/Lich/Trans will cover most if not all of your sustain needs opening up your jewelry glyphs and other 5pc.

SilverWF · August 2018

thankyourat wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Necro is just OK on mageblade

I disagree I find it almost mandatory if you are going to play light armor. I've tried other damage sets and from a damage perspective they feel just as good, but my shields are too small if I'm not using necro. On a non necro build I will sit at around a 9k dampen and with necro builds I can get that to 13k as well as open up the option to using harness which is super OP. Which sets would you put ahead of necro on a light armor magblade?

O.o My mag NB has 15-16k Harness shield (in PVE, sure) without any Necropot, dunno

Abstraqt · August 2018

Lexxypwns wrote: »

thankyourat wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Necro is just OK on mageblade

I disagree I find it almost mandatory if you are going to play light armor. I've tried other damage sets and from a damage perspective they feel just as good, but my shields are too small if I'm not using necro. On a non necro build I will sit at around a 9k dampen and with necro builds I can get that to 13k as well as open up the option to using harness which is super OP. Which sets would you put ahead of necro on a light armor magblade?

Eh, stacking max Magika in place of Spell damage is a good way to end up with less burst. At that point I can’t see why you bother with light armor since Heavy has much greater synergy with pressure builds whereas Light is superior for big burst builds, IMO.

I prefer 5-5-2-2 setups with a backbar defensive set and front bar offensive.

I struggle to see Necro+Shackle being better than Lich/Trans/Wizard’s+BSW/Sload/Spinners+2 willpower. I also don’t see how it’s better than Shackle+Amber.

Overall I think Necro is a good option but certainly not the best. It gives 0 regen and middle of the road damage which means you need to add more damage and cover all your regen needs from outside sources. You either need to run Atro, WM, or sacrifice jewelry glyphs for regen whereas a set like BSW/Spinners gives you significantly more damage and Amber/Lich/Trans will cover most if not all of your sustain needs opening up your jewelry glyphs and other 5pc.

Necro is literally the best set on a magicka nb, hands down, no question

Lexxypwns · August 2018

Abstraqt wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

thankyourat wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Necro is just OK on mageblade

I disagree I find it almost mandatory if you are going to play light armor. I've tried other damage sets and from a damage perspective they feel just as good, but my shields are too small if I'm not using necro. On a non necro build I will sit at around a 9k dampen and with necro builds I can get that to 13k as well as open up the option to using harness which is super OP. Which sets would you put ahead of necro on a light armor magblade?

Eh, stacking max Magika in place of Spell damage is a good way to end up with less burst. At that point I can’t see why you bother with light armor since Heavy has much greater synergy with pressure builds whereas Light is superior for big burst builds, IMO.

I prefer 5-5-2-2 setups with a backbar defensive set and front bar offensive.

I struggle to see Necro+Shackle being better than Lich/Trans/Wizard’s+BSW/Sload/Spinners+2 willpower. I also don’t see how it’s better than Shackle+Amber.

Overall I think Necro is a good option but certainly not the best. It gives 0 regen and middle of the road damage which means you need to add more damage and cover all your regen needs from outside sources. You either need to run Atro, WM, or sacrifice jewelry glyphs for regen whereas a set like BSW/Spinners gives you significantly more damage and Amber/Lich/Trans will cover most if not all of your sustain needs opening up your jewelry glyphs and other 5pc.

Necro is literally the best set on a magicka nb, hands down, no question

Lol, sure thing bud.

It’s not even the best set on a light armor mageblade and it’s borderline useless on heavy mageblade, which btw, is the open world meta.

Datthaw · August 2018

I like necro in duels, I run shackle/necro/skoria alot for them. Open world it is kinda meh. I tend to find it more of a destro resto set, and open world I'm into the 2h builds now. Snare removal is too valuable.

technohic · August 2018

In heavy armor, I think Id rather have spinners but I am not sure it is so bad now that magicka is factored into light/heavy attacks. That used to be the big downside. If you run light armor, Ive always been amazed at how little the 5th piece actually adds to the shield strength compared to spinners there as well. Only thing is, spinners doesnt help you against shielded targets.

Datthaw · August 2018

What is the "meta" btw, I always try to run what I find fun and still effective. @Lexxypwns is saying it's a heavy meta, just curious about what sets.

MLGProPlayer · August 2018

You can look at Spinners too. It gives a ton of magicka + pen.

Micah_Bayer · August 2018

SilverWF wrote: »

thankyourat wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Necro is just OK on mageblade

I disagree I find it almost mandatory if you are going to play light armor. I've tried other damage sets and from a damage perspective they feel just as good, but my shields are too small if I'm not using necro. On a non necro build I will sit at around a 9k dampen and with necro builds I can get that to 13k as well as open up the option to using harness which is super OP. Which sets would you put ahead of necro on a light armor magblade?

O.o My mag NB has 15-16k Harness shield (in PVE, sure) without any Necropot, dunno

He is talking about pvp so his shield in pve would be about 24-25k in pvp shields are cut in half

Lexxypwns · August 2018

Datthaw wrote: »

What is the "meta" btw, I always try to run what I find fun and still effective. @Lexxypwns is saying it's a heavy meta, just curious about what sets.

IMO, the non-bomber meta for Mageblade is the build I published. 5 Duroks 5 Sload 2 willpower 2 Troll King. However, I think that changes for next patch and I’ll probably run 5 Shackle 5 Amber 2 Skoria initially then adjust as the new meta progresses.