Which class is weakest Healing class? (PvE and PvP)

Dredlord · August 2018

Hotdog_23 wrote: »

DK is the weakest class healer. Not sure how to fix since they are the best tank and if you fix the healing some then you will make a better tank.

Not at all, you just focus on adding heal other abilities instead of heal self so the dk's own survivability isnt increased if it is already where you want it.

CatchMeTrolling · August 2018

Sounds like most people are talking about healbots. So probably sorc but the strongest is subjective because when it comes down to it magnb has the strongest off heals without being specced as a healer while having great damage and utility.

Tasear · August 2018

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Sounds like most people are talking about healbots. So probably sorc but the strongest is subjective because when it comes down to it magnb has the strongest off heals without being specced as a healer while having great damage and utility.

We are talking about the weakest.

CatchMeTrolling · August 2018

Tasear wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Sounds like most people are talking about healbots. So probably sorc but the strongest is subjective because when it comes down to it magnb has the strongest off heals without being specced as a healer while having great damage and utility.

We are talking about the weakest.

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gabriebe · August 2018

Sorcerers, since the healing ult is stationary + the pets die all the time in PvP. In PvE they do alright but I feel like BoL gets to the target faster than the Twilight heals.

DK healer is an odd build but it works quite well in PvP if you are in a medium raid (4-8ish). You can shield stack for days with Bone Shield, Magma Shell and Igneous.

Jamdarius · August 2018

Tasear wrote: »

Jamdarius wrote: »

I also feel that Dragon Knights need more of ZOS love regarding their healing capability, they have sustain issues, class skills cost tons of magicka (except cauterize I guess), take a look at obsidian shard - slow cast time animation, need to hit an enemy to heal 1 guy and costs twice as much as cauterize... it needs complete change, either make it cheap spammable heal or leave the cost and make it AoE burst heal (like a grenade, you gather the obsidian from the ground next smash it on the desired area and the shards of the obsidian stabb players with our healing love - is how I would see this skill). Also Cinder storm skill is just not good as it was supposed to be, the HoT is weak (although it is AoE, that is good) - in dung runs it is also cheaper to double tap Mutagen instead of it and you have 4 players always covered with HoT that also can burst heal and cleanse if Health pool gets low for them, also that snare is kinda not needed for PvE (not so bad for PvP). Would be nice to see Cinder Storm providing synergy with removal of negative effects and some upgrade in HoT ammount and also major cost reductions for the skills. Also hard to find a group that wants to run Trial with DK healer and cannot blame people for it.

PS: Also the shielding skill with mending buff should give more shield, like scale with max magicka.

I heard some people like to replace cinder storm with healing springs? What do you think of that?

I cannot imagine running healer without springs,
this is the build I cooked a while ago and posted on healers and DK class reps discord, it is for the dung runs rather than trials. Mutagen replaced my previously slotted cinder since I figured it out to be better in both quality and skill cost than placed on ground AoE HoT, however if running trial I would change the Mutagen for the Cinder, as it would cover more players standing in the circle.
en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=77595

I mean why not allow us to use both cinder and springs, would be nice to see that day come when cinder is better.

Jeremy · August 2018

Ankael07 wrote: »

Im curious about those who vote Templars for the weakest healing class. Can anyone explain why?

My reason for voting Sorcerer is the lack of overall buffs and debuffs. Sure we can heal with Twilight pet (outside Cyrodiil that is) but a healer is incomplete without giving proper buffs to allies or debuffs to enemies

If Templar is the strongest PvP healer on this game then I feel very sorry for the other classes.

Edziu · August 2018

EDIT: ignore it, just after moment got this is pvp section

Elara_Northwind · August 2018

I accidentally said Templar, but I was supposed to say Nightblade! I play all classes, magicka wise, stamina I only play a couple so cannot speak for that, but for magicka, I find my nightblade the most difficult to heal with. My sorc, dk and templar don't even require a resto staff, neither does my new Magden, admitedlt this one is not fully levelled yet, but my magicka nightblade is the only one that needs a restro staff, this is why I choose them. Their class heals as a magicka player are not up to par with the other 4, in my opinion.

AlienatedGoat · August 2018

Edziu wrote: »

EDIT: ignore it, just after moment got this is pvp section

yeah, except why the *** is this in the pvp section?

Chibs · August 2018

No clue why this got moved to the PvP section. At most this should have been moved to combat and character mechanics. For anybody who doesn’t know this was originally posted in general discussion

arkansas_ESO · August 2018

Jeremy wrote: »

Ankael07 wrote: »

Im curious about those who vote Templars for the weakest healing class. Can anyone explain why?

My reason for voting Sorcerer is the lack of overall buffs and debuffs. Sure we can heal with Twilight pet (outside Cyrodiil that is) but a healer is incomplete without giving proper buffs to allies or debuffs to enemies

If Templar is the strongest PvP healer on this game then I feel very sorry for the other classes.

...who do you think is actually the strongest healer?

exeeter702 · August 2018

Elara_Northwind wrote: »

I accidentally said Templar, but I was supposed to say Nightblade! I play all classes, magicka wise, stamina I only play a couple so cannot speak for that, but for magicka, I find my nightblade the most difficult to heal with. My sorc, dk and templar don't even require a resto staff, neither does my new Magden, admitedlt this one is not fully levelled yet, but my magicka nightblade is the only one that needs a restro staff, this is why I choose them. Their class heals as a magicka player are not up to par with the other 4, in my opinion.

Healthy offering is the strongest burst heal in the game. Nb healers are very strong. Frankly, i put them exactly on the same level as templars without question.

GimpyPorcupine · August 2018

exeeter702 wrote: »

Elara_Northwind wrote: »

I accidentally said Templar, but I was supposed to say Nightblade! I play all classes, magicka wise, stamina I only play a couple so cannot speak for that, but for magicka, I find my nightblade the most difficult to heal with. My sorc, dk and templar don't even require a resto staff, neither does my new Magden, admitedlt this one is not fully levelled yet, but my magicka nightblade is the only one that needs a restro staff, this is why I choose them. Their class heals as a magicka player are not up to par with the other 4, in my opinion.

Healthy offering is the strongest burst heal in the game. Nb healers are very strong. Frankly, i put them exactly on the same level as templars without question.

@exeeter702 Plus TWO ultimates with strong heals compared to the Templar's one, and better ultimate generation.

@Elara_Northwind , if you're not using a resto staff, you're not giving Combat Prayer. That's the only Resto spell I generally run when I NB heal, and that's the one spell I always run when healing, no matter what class.

Elara_Northwind · August 2018

GimpyPorcupine wrote: »

exeeter702 wrote: »

Elara_Northwind wrote: »

I accidentally said Templar, but I was supposed to say Nightblade! I play all classes, magicka wise, stamina I only play a couple so cannot speak for that, but for magicka, I find my nightblade the most difficult to heal with. My sorc, dk and templar don't even require a resto staff, neither does my new Magden, admitedlt this one is not fully levelled yet, but my magicka nightblade is the only one that needs a restro staff, this is why I choose them. Their class heals as a magicka player are not up to par with the other 4, in my opinion.

Healthy offering is the strongest burst heal in the game. Nb healers are very strong. Frankly, i put them exactly on the same level as templars without question.

@exeeter702 Plus TWO ultimates with strong heals compared to the Templar's one, and better ultimate generation.

@Elara_Northwind , if you're not using a resto staff, you're not giving Combat Prayer. That's the only Resto spell I generally run when I NB heal, and that's the one spell I always run when healing, no matter what class.

Well, yes, if we are talking about healing other people in pve situations, a resto is a must, ofc. I was thinking more in terms of self healing, in a pvp context.

In a pve, dungeon/trial type context I still might choose magicka nb, or maybe magicka dk. I think both are much harder than the other three when it comes to healing others.

Elara_Northwind · August 2018

exeeter702 wrote: »

Elara_Northwind wrote: »

I accidentally said Templar, but I was supposed to say Nightblade! I play all classes, magicka wise, stamina I only play a couple so cannot speak for that, but for magicka, I find my nightblade the most difficult to heal with. My sorc, dk and templar don't even require a resto staff, neither does my new Magden, admitedlt this one is not fully levelled yet, but my magicka nightblade is the only one that needs a restro staff, this is why I choose them. Their class heals as a magicka player are not up to par with the other 4, in my opinion.

Healthy offering is the strongest burst heal in the game. Nb healers are very strong. Frankly, i put them exactly on the same level as templars without question.

It is a really good heal, but I think that templar, and even warden and sorcerer have more tools to offer when it comes to healing in group situations, on top of the basic healing, than a nightblade does.

usmguy1234 · August 2018

Sorc by far the worst healing in the game.

Jamdarius · August 2018

Elara_Northwind wrote: »

exeeter702 wrote: »

Elara_Northwind wrote: »

I accidentally said Templar, but I was supposed to say Nightblade! I play all classes, magicka wise, stamina I only play a couple so cannot speak for that, but for magicka, I find my nightblade the most difficult to heal with. My sorc, dk and templar don't even require a resto staff, neither does my new Magden, admitedlt this one is not fully levelled yet, but my magicka nightblade is the only one that needs a restro staff, this is why I choose them. Their class heals as a magicka player are not up to par with the other 4, in my opinion.

Healthy offering is the strongest burst heal in the game. Nb healers are very strong. Frankly, i put them exactly on the same level as templars without question.

It is a really good heal, but I think that templar, and even warden and sorcerer have more tools to offer when it comes to healing in group situations, on top of the basic healing, than a nightblade does.

What you are trying to say is NB healers lack their own synergy skill with burst AoE heal like warden/templars have. And I agree on it.