Help: 4-man Battleground group composition 101

pizzaow · August 2018

I'm fairly new to battlegrounds; currently when going in each of us simply hop on an individually decent toon and we give it a shot. We'd like to start coordinating roles and sets to optimize our group performance a little better. I understand group comp from a PvE perspective, but don't know the basics for PvP.

My question is, what roles are effective for a team? (eg. a tank who applies major defile and snares, a heavy armor healer and 2 burst-based dps).

Are there any "must haves" (sets, roles, classes, etc)?

Anything to avoid?

I'm also looking for something fairly generic that would be suitable for any of the match types (i.e. not optimized for deathmatch, chaosball...).

Waffennacht · August 2018

Healbot
Warden tank
NB sniper
Mag sorc

Thogard · August 2018

Waffennacht wrote: »

Healbot
Warden tank
NB sniper
Mag sorc

Ew. I can’t think of a scenario where this would work.

Thogard · August 2018

Op the main thing to keep in mind is team mobility. If one person is really fast, zipping around, then everyone else needs to be able to keep up. If they can’t, then the fast player needs to slow down to stay with the group.

Everyone on the team needs a way to break snares and roots.

You’ll need a heavy armor magplar. They must have mistform.

From there you should go with either a Stam group or a mag group or a hybrid. If mag, go all mag.. run 1x magden 1x mNB 1x mag sorc. Or 2x mag sorc.

If Stam, the more stamdens you have the better. I’d run 2x stamden 1x stamplar. Everyone needs forward momentum or shuffle, but preferably forward momentum.

Waffennacht · August 2018

Thogard wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Healbot
Warden tank
NB sniper
Mag sorc

Ew. I can’t think of a scenario where this would work.

Oh so well. You have the tank go first (using a build like mine lol) that gets everyone's attention. The sorc and NB just pick everyone off while the warden and Templar keep everyone engaged.

Lethal arrow bug is just too much to pass up then add mage's Wrath to ensure all kills go to your team.

Warden and Templar will get points from heals and assists.

Plus all the snares... and roots.... And purge... The warden Templar combo will be invincible

Edit: the warden tank is already practically invincible

Thogard · August 2018

Well I guess it depends on if you’re building to fight pugs or building to fight other 4 mans. That group comp has low stacked burst dmg and its DPS is squishy. The only DBoS you have is the NB who will be out of range anyway.

Draxys · August 2018

Tbh...

Mag sorc
Mag sorc
Mag sorc
Whatever you want, maybe a tank with speed pots to win non-deathmatches

Waffennacht · August 2018

Thogard wrote: »

Well I guess it depends on if you’re building to fight pugs or building to fight other 4 mans. That group comp has low stacked burst dmg and its DPS is squishy. The only DBoS you have is the NB who will be out of range anyway.

You'll face more PuGs than premades on console. It's best to gear for maximizing points imo. A thought does occur about when you play. During main hours you'd probably face a lot more pre mades.

I'd play towards kill stealing.

Now if it was against 2 other pre mades....

Assuming I'm on my warden I would like to definitely have a sorc with me, probably 2. And I'd still want a heavy Templar with a similar build as mine, with off heals.

The warden (or my build) could be a mDK or mNB, I could see that, but I wouldn't change too much more than that

Tryxus · August 2018

2x StamDens, a MagDen and a MagPlar

brandonv516 · August 2018

Played 2 magsorcs, 1 stamsorc, 1 stamplar group recently.

VERY lethal combination I feel.

Hutch679 · August 2018

Magplar healbot, 3 stam sorc spin2wins. GG. 3 hurricanes, 3 steel tornados, 3 bloodcraze, 3 axe bleeds, 3 dawnbreakers, 3 rune cages

Hoked_on_ponix · August 2018

General rule of thumb here is you get 4 mag sorcs on and sit at max range and blast everything that moves. Should be fine.

Lexxypwns · August 2018

Dedicated healer
Someone to give purify synergies
3 stam builds, 2 wardens and a stam sorc/stamplar.
You want Durok’s, Troll King, A source of major courage, generally stacking group buffs.

If you have a stamplar, you can use magden support. If not then magplar is 100% necessary.

Adenoma · August 2018

Can run harmony squad too. 2x magDK, 1x magsorc, 1x magplar/magwarden

StayAlfresco · August 2018

mNB healer, mNB tank, 2x mNB dps.

Left4Daud · August 2018

I just started doing BGs about a week before Mayhem and I’ve been practically living in there ever since. I won’t pretend to offer insight because I don’t have nearly enough experience but whenever a group has a dedicated healer protecting burst Stam builds (sorcs/wardens) these guys usually score well, if not outright destroy everyone else.

It’s frustrating as hell fighting these groups when I solo queue but I always take a second to look at my death recap and imagine how I might have played better.

For context I main a medium armor StamDK in pvp and I honestly would prefer to fight a team of 3 mag sorcs as opposed to a tankplar/warden Stam team.

Also does anyone else wish there was a way to scramble teams? Would be interesting and fun to fight some of these pre-mades if even though they grouped/queued together that wouldnt mean they would end up on the same team. Could be fun.

Man I have a lot to learn.

Thogard · August 2018

Tryxus wrote: »

2x StamDens, a MagDen and a MagPlar

This is our usual setup if we want to go super tryhard. But there’s no counter to it. So usually we drop a stamden and add a stamplar for a second purify.