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BG's Meta...

  • GawdSB
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    BGs is just a bunch of sorcs spamming execute and rune cage and the occasional nb being the annoyance that they are.

    Seriously there's only two classes I see in BGs and that's sad.
  • Waffennacht
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    GawdSB wrote: »
    BGs is just a bunch of sorcs spamming execute and rune cage and the occasional nb being the annoyance that they are.

    Seriously there's only two classes I see in BGs and that's sad.

    I see:

    Stam NB
    Some sort of DK (mag I think) - uncommon
    Stam Sorc
    Mag Sorc
    Stam Warden - rare
    Healthden - rare
    Mag Templar - rare
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  • webrgesner
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    i get 20 - 30 kills on magsorc using 4necro, 2 grothdaar, 3 will power, and 5 lich backbar. magsorcs dont use sloads TRUST me on that. unless they are noob
  • ak_pvp
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    GawdSB wrote: »
    BGs is just a bunch of sorcs spamming execute and rune cage and the occasional nb being the annoyance that they are.

    Seriously there's only two classes I see in BGs and that's sad.

    I see:

    Stam NB
    Some sort of DK (mag I think) - uncommon
    Stam Sorc
    Mag Sorc
    Stam Warden - rare
    Healthden - rare
    Mag Templar - rare

    Magplar rare. Eh? I wouldn't say they are baseline, but they are around DK level and are super potent when you have one.
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  • LegendaryMage
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    ecru wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »

    @ecru on Xbox NA there are two notorious sub-50 groups that run full pre-makes and always have a dedicated healer. If you’re leveling a character through BGs you’ll start to encounter those groups after 5-10 levels if you play well, it’s really sad

    i can't imagine finding any sort of enjoyment in this. sub 50 bgs are already total faceroll if you know what you're doing.

    I mean, they literally delete and remake characters. They’re not actual good players though, which explains why they’re not doing something else I suppose

    What's the point of that? You have to re-level each char, get some skill points, get decent passives only to delete it after 'insert some days here'? Seems like a total waste of time to me.

    Well yeah. Lately I’ve been leveling my new characters through BGs when I get bored of grinding and I see them there all the time on different characters.

    I think the point is that they’re not good enough to compete against other BG groups but they want to play with friends and feel good about themselves.

    Edit: still lame AF and they should spend that extra time improving.

    I see. Well, if that's the only way for them to have fun, then sure. Let them do it. It's not like they'll improve like that lol

    As for the topic, yeah sure mag sorcs are good. But here's the thing. Stam NB is just 3 times better in BGs. I didn't play mine for a few months, the other day I go into a BG and it's almost 25-3 score in the end without even trying.

    Not to mention that it absolutely shredded all mag sorcs in its path. Most of them don't even have stamina for more than 2 breakfrees in a row... Really sad.

    It's so easy to take advantage of the hit & run playstyle in no CP, it's ridiculous. I'm taking my magplar next, even though I doubt it will be as good as the NB, I'm pretty confident it will be better than the sorc. After that, I'll give the mag NB a go too.
    Edited by LegendaryMage on July 30, 2018 3:27AM
  • AbysmalGhul
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    Vanzen wrote: »
    Sorcs in Bg are a scandal.

    I know I have one.

    My main is a DK.

    When I switch to my sorc I feel like am using cheat engine.

    Oh yeah. My sorc destroys all. DK's are pretty damn annoying themselves. Dat stun and Dragon leap....epic beat down when a good one gets a hold of you!

    I never played BGs until the event but it's actually pretty fun. I took my PvE StamBlade, crafted Sload's, slapped on some old Viper Sting gear, and have been consistently scoring around 3k per match. Just watching people spam Vigor while they're health keeps falling is quite entertaining.

    Wow first time pvp and you already decided to not even try to git gud and just use sloads instead


    Hahaha! I ran into a group abusing Sloads last night. The missus and I abused them so hard they wouldn't leave spawn.
    Edited by AbysmalGhul on July 30, 2018 3:40AM
  • Girl_Number8
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    Troneon wrote: »
    Rune Cage
    Fear
    Pre Mades in solo que
    Sorcs / NB's
    Sloads
    Sloads and
    Sloads
    CC Immunity never working correctly
    Shooting off 5 skills in 1 second
    Lag
    Being thrown into matches that are already almost over and everyone on your team has left the match already....
    Being given leaver penalties for no reason....
    Make other player unable to use skills or fight back = fun

    There I just saved the entire community from playing BG's. You are Welcome.



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  • Mojomonkeyman
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    BG meta is very different on platforms. On NA (streams) I see dizzy, spin-to-win stam groups dominating premades, on EU I hear many people say stam is dead in high end small grp play... because it can't really compete vs the natural synergy a mag setup centering around magtemp & magwarden has.

    Only consistent thing is magsorcs being overpopulated/-performing in soloQ. But in to top tier group play I don't feel they can compete all too well. And sloads is consistent too, but I'm pretty confident it will be niche tier next patch.
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  • Toc de Malsvi
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    bitels wrote: »
    How do you know someone is premade?

    Play enough BGs and it becomes obvious. When the 4 players move in concert, coordinate their burst, and in general know what they are doing.

    I suppose it wouldn't be easy to tell if a premade team was made of inexperienced players, but then again I don't particularly cared getting matched-up against them when I solo que.

    Yup I would say the most obvious indicator is coordinated ult stacking. This can be done in a pug but is incredibly rare to get all 4 members on the mic and willing to actually work together an time ults. Even more so when that little ball of butt huggers runs away from you until they have their ults up then turns and bursts before running again.
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  • Toc de Malsvi
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    Jhalin wrote: »
    My PvE build NB has been fairing fine in BGs with Hunding’s and TFS. Haven’t hit much lag, coordinated well enough when people gave directions, honestly not that much Sloads around.

    Worst things I’ve encountered was a players who would only crouch in place and Snipe at people while we duked it out in the middle of a deathmatch

    Snipe gankers in BG's are at a disadvantage on almost every map compared to Cyrodiil. They do not have the room to run far, they do not have a zerg to hide behind, there is tons of LOS for targets to avoid them. I've seen a few of these kids in BG's and they are mildly annoying at best, just move to pillar hump when you cannot out right track them down and kill them. Worse still if their teammates are not very very good, then they leave their teammates as sitting ducks to be quickly overwhelmed while they look for cheap kills.
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    Templar's are evil..
  • pod88kk
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    Wouldn't know, can't get onto the f***ing Xbox EU server to check it out
  • PoppaVape
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    I only started playing BG's yesterday. Been a few times solo queing that I ran into organized groups but not too many. I also realized that I was thrown into a "premade" of 3 others that I recognized as guildies. Perhaps some of the others were being "added" to finish off a group? Regardless, I am having fun and figuring things out as I go.
  • woe
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    People complaining about meta lol. This is from my magden using straight pve gear/build. Sounds like a bunch of l2p issues non pvpers have.

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    uwu
  • TheDarkShadow
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    I love getting throw into teams that is already loosing. 5m, 7k AP (14k during event). Yummy. Fast and easy.

  • Beardimus
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    GawdSB wrote: »
    BGs is just a bunch of sorcs spamming execute and rune cage and the occasional nb being the annoyance that they are.

    Seriously there's only two classes I see in BGs and that's sad.

    Lol, a team of Sorcs would be shite. You need 1 to burst / execute sure but plenty of other classes are needed for support & dealing the rest of the damage.

    Damn i think this forum needs a hurt by Sorc support corner
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  • Qbiken
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    deflorate wrote: »
    People complaining about meta lol. This is from my magden using straight pve gear/build. Sounds like a bunch of l2p issues non pvpers have.

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    With the new MMR system you´re most likely going to face very un-experienced players if you enter with a character that you´ve never used in BG´s before (which seems to be the case in this picture)

    And OP forgot some layers of Durok´s Bane and earthgore in the BG meta :pensive:
  • Elwendryll
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    Stamsorc here. Runecage + Overload is fun.
    (Most of the time, I can get one hit, and the second is dodged, but yeah, occasionally, they can't break free).
    I'm playing in medium with 2 Mundus stones, the only proc is selene (I would consider this build as fairly balanced and non-cheesy). Runecage, Sloads etc... are not really a problem as long as you're not ignoring their existing while making your build... In my opinion.

    Actually, I do enjoy BG's a lot more than cyrodiil.

    -Nearly instant queue.
    -Almost lag free.
    -No-cp.
    -Fast paced.
    -Guaranteed AP.
    -Small scale.
    -I feel powerful.
    -I'm having fun.
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  • Waffennacht
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    My MMR pairs me against weBR guild and liberating Khan's crew

    Which seems pretty fair

    This means whom I'm being paired with has the same kind of BG experience as us right?
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  • MissBizz
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    ecru wrote: »
    Phage wrote: »
    Played BGs exclusively since the event started.

    Have encountered none of this.

    sub 50 bgs are a bit different friendo

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    also the power sigil is fair and balanced.

    Hm, wondering if that was the night I played with them.

    And they shouldn't have been in under 50?
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  • geonsocal
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    c'mon @Troneon ...some valid points...haven't played battlegrounds since last year's mayhem event...did 20 plus this weekend...

    considering how easy it was for you to rattle off all those issues - just how many hundreds of games have you already played...

    let folks try it out and judge for themselves...

    on the right type of build (yeah nightblades and sorcerers) - it's a pretty fun dps game...
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  • Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO
    While some of these problems definitely do exist, they don't ruin the experience for me. And I've had very few performance issues in BGs, if any.

    Lately it also seems like breaking free from rune cage has been less of a problem... maybe I'm just imagining things though.
  • KraziJoe
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    deflorate wrote: »
    People complaining about meta lol. This is from my magden using straight pve gear/build. Sounds like a bunch of l2p issues non pvpers have.

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    You died twice...N00B...
  • GarnetFire17
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    Seems mostly like a bunch of vigor spamming DKs to me but no one really seems to be complaining about them. Probably because they have been around so long and they are ones complaining when something actually beats them.
  • Hutch679
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    i agree with =

    "Make other player unable to use skills or fight back = fun


    my favorite is the dk/sorc group composition which results in the moment your touched its stun after stun after stun!

    Fossilize and rune cage are SERIOUSLY broken.
  • BozzyTheDrummer
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    I have been running under level 50 BG's with my new Stam Blade and it's pretty fun for me. Getting used to playing with a stam blade in PvP has been a challenge, but i'm getting the hang of it.

    I decided to re-spec my PvE sorc (my main toon) to be suitable for PvP. I decided to put on Sloads just to see what this guy could do. I previously tried Sloads on my DK and it didn't notice much (might give up on that character entirely)

    But man, Sorcerer + Sloads + Infernal Guardian (what I have been running) Just steam rolls through everything.

    I also decided to try Rune Cage on my sorc as well to see what that fuss was all about. I ill be honest here, I have quite a hard time getting this to fire. I could be a distance away, or right in front of someone, and Rune cage is greyed out most of the time, even though I have the resources to cast it. It seemed to fire about 50% of the time. I seemed to die a lot while trying to cast it. To me it doesn't seem all that great.

    I remember people complaining that you couldn't break out of Rune Cage, but it sure seemed like the times that I did get this to fire, that people break out of it pretty quickly. Now, I just don;t use Rune Cage as much.

    if I am being honest, I am kind of bummed that I haven't been killed by Sloads more often. Just since Midyear Mayhem launched, I've seen Sloads come up in my death re-cap about 3-4 times.

    After trying out Sloads, I can say that I don't notice it much when I am alive. I think the leeching shadow is this purple light that is applied to the enemy (someone correct me if I am wrong). When I do notice Sloads is when I am dead, and I can say, that it does seem to be a little much.

    It's one thing when you are alive and trucking along, getting kills, etc....and Sloads is doing it's work. But when you're dead, waiting for the timer to run out so you can re-spawn, and you can count 1-2 kills and 3-4 assists. Hell even when you re-spawn and running back out to the action, and you still get a little assist notice n the bottom corner of your screen.

    I am all for Sloads working as intended when your alive, but after using it and seeing how it works, I think the kills/assists you can get after you're already dead could be a little much.
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  • GawdSB
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    GawdSB wrote: »
    BGs is just a bunch of sorcs spamming execute and rune cage and the occasional nb being the annoyance that they are.

    Seriously there's only two classes I see in BGs and that's sad.

    Lol, a team of Sorcs would be shite. You need 1 to burst / execute sure but plenty of other classes are needed for support & dealing the rest of the damage.

    Damn i think this forum needs a hurt by Sorc support corner

    Umm, no. Especially with how the scoring for deathmatch in particular is setup. All you need is that last tick to get the credit for the kill.

    Whirlwind and Mages Wrath are all that's needed and it requires zero effort to run get kills this way. Try again.
  • Mister_DMC
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    GawdSB wrote: »
    BGs is just a bunch of sorcs spamming execute and rune cage and the occasional nb being the annoyance that they are.

    Seriously there's only two classes I see in BGs and that's sad.

    I see:

    Stam NB
    Some sort of DK (mag I think) - uncommon
    Stam Sorc
    Mag Sorc
    Stam Warden - rare
    Healthden - rare
    Mag Templar - rare

    What's funny is my 4 favorite Classes to play in BG's are Stam DK, magplar, Stam warden and Stamplar which you didn't even list lol.
  • kentgreigrwb17_ESO
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    Seems an accurate run down.

    Also hefty use of Cheat Engine
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