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Anyone try Mech Acuity and Scathing Mage for a MagSorc?

Ir0nB34r
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So I was thinking of trying out:

2 Ilambris
5 Mech Acuity
5 Scathing Mage

I have not tried this yet, but going for a high crit build with periods of extreme burst damage every 18 seconds would be pretty neat.
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  • Ir0nB34r
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    So apparently I am a little confused in what Direct Damage is, since they both need direct damage (one of them a crit) to proc. I have been reading through various threads about what exactly is direct damage but I find that most people are providing what they think or believe direct damage is. One thing that I feel has been answered is that Elemental Blockade is not direct damage, then? I am guessing that Liquid Lightning is also not direct damage?

    So I am thinking that it will just take a bit of timing and skill to utilize this effectively. Use Force Pulse to time when it procs effectively.
    Edited by Ir0nB34r on June 23, 2018 7:20PM
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  • Aedris43
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    Ir0nB34r wrote: »
    So I was thinking of trying out:

    2 Ilambris
    5 Mech Acuity
    5 Scathing Mage

    I have not tried this yet, but going for a high crit build with periods of extreme burst damage every 18 seconds would be pretty neat.

    I've wanted to try Mech Acuity + Clever Alchemist for PvP. That has an even higher burst potential as CA gives more spell/weapon damage than Scathing. Also, I'm not sure how often Scathing procs on Mag Sorc, but if you're using Force Pulse, I'd bet it's not a bad combination.

    Also, I loved seeing the question, I just pointed out that I think Biting Jabs is possibly mistakenly proccing Selene's in another thread and mentioned both Scathing and Mech Acuity (maybe that prompted the question :smiley: ).
  • Ir0nB34r
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    Aedris43 wrote: »
    Ir0nB34r wrote: »
    So I was thinking of trying out:

    2 Ilambris
    5 Mech Acuity
    5 Scathing Mage

    I have not tried this yet, but going for a high crit build with periods of extreme burst damage every 18 seconds would be pretty neat.

    I've wanted to try Mech Acuity + Clever Alchemist for PvP. That has an even higher burst potential as CA gives more spell/weapon damage than Scathing. Also, I'm not sure how often Scathing procs on Mag Sorc, but if you're using Force Pulse, I'd bet it's not a bad combination.

    So I did some thinking on this.. A slight chance on Critical Direct Damage seems too specific of a requirement, I think. Maybe not scathing mage, but Burning Spellweave instead? Higher spell damage boost, higher chance of burning the enemy, and its more likely to proc, all for only the cost of a 4 second cooldown and a slight decrease in spell crit (but mech acuity will make up for that). But I think that 4 seconds will be a lot lower than the time between Scathing Mage procing anyway.

    Also, this is all coming from a PvE mindset. I know you mentioned PvP but I have no real experience with that side of things lol But Clever Alchemist doesn't add Spell Crit or Max Magicka either.. So I think that comes down to personal taste in the end.
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  • Aedris43
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    Ir0nB34r wrote: »
    Aedris43 wrote: »
    Ir0nB34r wrote: »
    So I was thinking of trying out:

    2 Ilambris
    5 Mech Acuity
    5 Scathing Mage

    I have not tried this yet, but going for a high crit build with periods of extreme burst damage every 18 seconds would be pretty neat.

    I've wanted to try Mech Acuity + Clever Alchemist for PvP. That has an even higher burst potential as CA gives more spell/weapon damage than Scathing. Also, I'm not sure how often Scathing procs on Mag Sorc, but if you're using Force Pulse, I'd bet it's not a bad combination.

    So I did some thinking on this.. A slight chance on Critical Direct Damage seems too specific of a requirement, I think. Maybe not scathing mage, but Burning Spellweave instead? Higher spell damage boost, higher chance of burning the enemy, and its more likely to proc, all for only the cost of a 4 second cooldown and a slight decrease in spell crit (but mech acuity will make up for that). But I think that 4 seconds will be a lot lower than the time between Scathing Mage procing anyway.

    Also, this is all coming from a PvE mindset. I know you mentioned PvP but I have no real experience with that side of things lol But Clever Alchemist doesn't add Spell Crit or Max Magicka either.. So I think that comes down to personal taste in the end.

    Right, you’d need Scathing to proc more often than 3 seconds if you wanted it to have the same percentage uptime and that doesn’t even get you to the same amount of bonus damage.
  • Gargath
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    In my understanding of magsorc it's based on dealing huge aoe shock damage, and it's scaled from max magicka and spell damage right? So the obvious choice is to boost the magicka to +/- 50k with 5 pcs. Necropotence and passives/skills and then shock damage with 5 pcs. Netch's Touch Set and Grothdarr (or Illambris as the 2-nd). The result is overwhelming :).
    Mech Acuity looks like a waste of resources and some special fun build. Good luck anyway in creating your own style :).
    Edited by Gargath on June 24, 2018 8:48AM
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  • craftycarper73
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    Gargath wrote: »
    In my understanding of magsorc it's based on dealing huge aoe shock damage, and it's scaled from max magicka and spell damage right? So the obvious choice is to boost the magicka to +/- 50k with 5 pcs. Necropotence and passives/skills and then shock damage with 5 pcs. Netch's Touch Set and Grothdarr (or Illambris as the 2-nd). The result is overwhelming :).
    Mech Acuity looks like a waste of resources and some special fun build. Good luck anyway in creating your own style :).

    im currently julianos 5pc netches 5pc 2 Ilambris, does decent damage,but im thinking of of swapping my julianos for necroptence, was thinking mech acuity, but necro and netch makes more sense really.
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    Gargath wrote: »
    In my understanding of magsorc it's based on dealing huge aoe shock damage, and it's scaled from max magicka and spell damage right? So the obvious choice is to boost the magicka to +/- 50k with 5 pcs. Necropotence and passives/skills and then shock damage with 5 pcs. Netch's Touch Set and Grothdarr (or Illambris as the 2-nd). The result is overwhelming :).
    Mech Acuity looks like a waste of resources and some special fun build. Good luck anyway in creating your own style :).

    This is a very narrow way to look at classes. Do you see nightblades as sneaky rogues only? Dragonknights as tanks only? No. Mag sorcs can be built at least 2 different ways, yes one way is the way you describe but the other is based on force pulse/crystal frags, usually called a non pet sorc. For this build, since force pulse has 3 different sources of direct damage, that can all crit, separately, the OPs idea of combining a set that guarantees 5 seconds of crit with a set that procs off of crits is not a bad idea at all.
    Edited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on June 24, 2018 10:38AM
  • Ir0nB34r
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    Gargath wrote: »
    In my understanding of magsorc it's based on dealing huge aoe shock damage, and it's scaled from max magicka and spell damage right? So the obvious choice is to boost the magicka to +/- 50k with 5 pcs. Necropotence and passives/skills and then shock damage with 5 pcs. Netch's Touch Set and Grothdarr (or Illambris as the 2-nd). The result is overwhelming :).
    Mech Acuity looks like a waste of resources and some special fun build. Good luck anyway in creating your own style :).

    I tried a pet build for a while, but its so cookie cutter. For a while, everyone was using it. Its a great build, for sure. But I dont think thats the only way to do it. Prior to Summerset I switched to a non-pet build with 2 Ilambris, 5 Julianos, and 4 Infallible Mage and my DPS I felt actually went up.

    Sorcs definitely have a Lightning flavor to them but they are not stuck with only doing lightning stuff. But they definitely excel in AOE. I have found a wonderful balance between Lightning AND Fire AOE.
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    Ir0nB34r wrote: »
    Gargath wrote: »
    In my understanding of magsorc it's based on dealing huge aoe shock damage, and it's scaled from max magicka and spell damage right? So the obvious choice is to boost the magicka to +/- 50k with 5 pcs. Necropotence and passives/skills and then shock damage with 5 pcs. Netch's Touch Set and Grothdarr (or Illambris as the 2-nd). The result is overwhelming :).
    Mech Acuity looks like a waste of resources and some special fun build. Good luck anyway in creating your own style :).

    I tried a pet build for a while, but its so cookie cutter. For a while, everyone was using it. Its a great build, for sure. But I dont think thats the only way to do it. Prior to Summerset I switched to a non-pet build with 2 Ilambris, 5 Julianos, and 4 Infallible Mage and my DPS I felt actually went up.

    Sorcs definitely have a Lightning flavor to them but they are not stuck with only doing lightning stuff. But they definitely excel in AOE. I have found a wonderful balance between Lightning AND Fire AOE.

    Pet builds are less cookie cutter now since non-pet builds will actually hit higher dps.

    That said pet builds are boring since you have less active abilities.
  • scionix90
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    Scathing of s a great set. I wear it on both bars over siroria with bsw on front. I like crit scathing gives on both bars. I spam farce pulse as a mag sorc and bsw procs off that or my fire staff light attacks. Scathing from what I’ve seen also procs off my light attacks and force pulse and crystal drags. Basically anything that is single target, damages them straight on is direct dmg. BSW procs all the time scathing procs almost all the time and a lot at the same time as bsw. My crit is 65 percent inbuffed thanks to sets and I wear theif since I already get a lot of spell dmg. I’ve seen scathing proc back, to back, to back, many times. Great dps..I think it’s a great set.
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