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OUTDATED Mag NB BGs Build - "IRON MAN 2.0" - No DMG Proc Sets

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IRON MAN 2.0

RACE/MUNDUS/OTHER
RACE: Altmer, Dunmer, Breton, Argonian. Currently on my Argonian.
MUNDUS: Currently using Atronach. Some videos showcase the Mage or Steed.
VAMPIRE? NOT with Troll King lol. Maybe not even really good to go Vampire for PvP anymore.
FOOD: Triple Stat. Too much dodge rolling, sprinting, and hard-CC.
POTIONS: Spell Power, +Magicka Regen, +Magicka.

CP STATS (NO BATTLE SPIRIT BUFF)
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Expect the stats to be less than what you see here for NO-CP. I will try to get a decent updated screenshot with these updates.

GEAR
FRONT: Torugs Pact w/ Oblivion Enchant
BACK: Powered Torugs Pact w/ Berserker Enchant
5 Light, 1 Heavy, 1 Medium
Heavy Troll King Helmet (Tri-Stat-Infused) // Medium Troll King Shoulders (Magicka-Impen)
Skooma Smuggler Pact Body Pieces (Tri-Stat-Infused Chest // Impen Hands, Waist, Legs, Boots-All Magicka Enchants)
Torugs Pact Jewelry
(1 Bloodthirsty // 2 Swift - all Magicka Regen) -- most videos showcase this
or
(1 Infused // 2 Swift - all Magicka Regen)

SKILLS
---Destro Front Bar---
Force Pulse
Dampen Magic
Flame Reach
Crippling Grasp
Merciless Resolve
ULT: Incap/Soul/Meteor/Soul Assault
---Resto Back Bar---
Shadowy Disguise
Healing Ward
Mass Hysteria
Shadow Image
Siphoning Attacks
ULT: Resto Ultimate/Barrier (if Resto Ultimate not unlocked)

NOTES/CHANGES
-Healing Ward + Resto ULT + Troll King proc is enough for me personally in dealing with Sloads/Bleeds/Defiles.
*With the Wolf Hunter DLC update, Sloads will be fixed in not piercing through Cloak.

-Not many NBs slot Piercing Mark in BGs but it can be frustrating when you have someone running it. It truly is the kryptonite to a concealed Nightblade. There are a couple options:
1. Slot it yourself. Put it on the other NB and maybe they will back down.
2. Slot Purge.
3. Stay closer to your group.
4. Track down the NB and kill them so it goes away.
*I suggest #4. With the Wolfhunter DLC update, it will be much easier to track down people marking you.

-I personally love the high regen build. Some people prefer more spell damage. You can play around with glyphs to your own personal tastes.

-Changed out Shacklebreaker with Skooma Smuggler - catch me now StamSorcs
-Changed over to Atronach mundus stone - I'm pushing the regen
-Changed skill slots so now both Flame Reach and Crippling Grasp are slotted on front bar - hard CC & snare on damage bar A++
-Changed out Concealed Weapon with Shadow Image - redundant now with Skooma Smuggler
-Changed over build to Argonian - necessary after removal of Shacklebreaker
-Changed Bloodthirsty with Infused - benefits of 1 Bloodthirsty miniscule

VIDEOS
Newest video:
https://youtu.be/-J_MAEW1hOE
ENJOY!
Edited by brandonv516 on December 12, 2018 4:03AM
  • brandonv516
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    Updated with videos.
  • Pijng
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    «NO DMG Proc Sets»
    How dare you...

    It feels a lil' bit unfamiliar when I see fear and incap/merciless on different bars. Is it comfortable to play?

  • SilverWF
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    "MAG NB BGs Build - "IRON MAN" - NO DMG Proc Sets"
    "FRONT: Torugs Pact w/ Oblivion Enchant"
    Okaaaay
    • PC EU. Ebonheart Pact. CP 1k+
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  • brandonv516
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    Pijng wrote: »
    «NO DMG Proc Sets»
    How dare you...

    It feels a lil' bit unfamiliar when I see fear and incap/merciless on different bars. Is it comfortable to play?

    I like using Fear as a defensive measure in most cases. I find it comfortable but it's probably just something I got used to over time.
    SilverWF wrote: »
    "MAG NB BGs Build - "IRON MAN" - NO DMG Proc Sets"
    "FRONT: Torugs Pact w/ Oblivion Enchant"
    Okaaaay

    C'mon man give me a break lol.
  • Zeromaz
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    Pijng wrote: »
    «NO DMG Proc Sets»
    How dare you...

    It feels a lil' bit unfamiliar when I see fear and incap/merciless on different bars. Is it comfortable to play?

    I like using Fear as a defensive measure in most cases. I find it comfortable but it's probably just something I got used to over time.
    SilverWF wrote: »
    "MAG NB BGs Build - "IRON MAN" - NO DMG Proc Sets"
    "FRONT: Torugs Pact w/ Oblivion Enchant"
    Okaaaay

    C'mon man give me a break lol.

    Thats not a proc, ding ***. Its an enchant
  • arkansas_ESO
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    Zeromaz wrote: »
    Pijng wrote: »
    «NO DMG Proc Sets»
    How dare you...

    It feels a lil' bit unfamiliar when I see fear and incap/merciless on different bars. Is it comfortable to play?

    I like using Fear as a defensive measure in most cases. I find it comfortable but it's probably just something I got used to over time.
    SilverWF wrote: »
    "MAG NB BGs Build - "IRON MAN" - NO DMG Proc Sets"
    "FRONT: Torugs Pact w/ Oblivion Enchant"
    Okaaaay

    C'mon man give me a break lol.

    Thats not a proc, ding ***. Its an enchant

    an enchant...that deals damage...when you proc it lmao

    anyways, cool build, but if you're going to run a proc set imo there's more appealing options like overwhelming surge and the all-dreaded sload's sembalance


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    Thanks for sharing :)
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  • brandonv516
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    Zeromaz wrote: »
    Pijng wrote: »
    «NO DMG Proc Sets»
    How dare you...

    It feels a lil' bit unfamiliar when I see fear and incap/merciless on different bars. Is it comfortable to play?

    I like using Fear as a defensive measure in most cases. I find it comfortable but it's probably just something I got used to over time.
    SilverWF wrote: »
    "MAG NB BGs Build - "IRON MAN" - NO DMG Proc Sets"
    "FRONT: Torugs Pact w/ Oblivion Enchant"
    Okaaaay

    C'mon man give me a break lol.

    Thats not a proc, ding ***. Its an enchant

    an enchant...that deals damage...when you proc it lmao

    anyways, cool build, but if you're going to run a proc set imo there's more appealing options like overwhelming surge and the all-dreaded sload's sembalance

    But it's not a proc set lol. A set by definition is something that requires more than one of something.

    Enchants apply to single pieces. While it is a damage proc, the point is that there are builds that don't need to be carried by proc sets.

    You mentioned a few of those sets.
  • Stigant
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    Zeromaz wrote: »
    Pijng wrote: »
    «NO DMG Proc Sets»
    How dare you...

    It feels a lil' bit unfamiliar when I see fear and incap/merciless on different bars. Is it comfortable to play?

    I like using Fear as a defensive measure in most cases. I find it comfortable but it's probably just something I got used to over time.
    SilverWF wrote: »
    "MAG NB BGs Build - "IRON MAN" - NO DMG Proc Sets"
    "FRONT: Torugs Pact w/ Oblivion Enchant"
    Okaaaay

    C'mon man give me a break lol.

    Thats not a proc, ding ***. Its an enchant

    an enchant...that deals damage...when you proc it lmao

    anyways, cool build, but if you're going to run a proc set imo there's more appealing options like overwhelming surge and the all-dreaded sload's sembalance

    But it's not a proc set lol. A set by definition is something that requires more than one of something.

    Enchants apply to single pieces. While it is a damage proc, the point is that there are builds that don't need to be carried by proc sets.

    You mentioned a few of those sets.

    This build is being 'carrier by' torugs to proc oblivion damage, that ignores all resistances and defensive mechanics, very often... so the cheese for flavour is still there... call it what you want but that what it is build around...
  • brandonv516
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    Stigant wrote: »
    Zeromaz wrote: »
    Pijng wrote: »
    «NO DMG Proc Sets»
    How dare you...

    It feels a lil' bit unfamiliar when I see fear and incap/merciless on different bars. Is it comfortable to play?

    I like using Fear as a defensive measure in most cases. I find it comfortable but it's probably just something I got used to over time.
    SilverWF wrote: »
    "MAG NB BGs Build - "IRON MAN" - NO DMG Proc Sets"
    "FRONT: Torugs Pact w/ Oblivion Enchant"
    Okaaaay

    C'mon man give me a break lol.

    Thats not a proc, ding ***. Its an enchant

    an enchant...that deals damage...when you proc it lmao

    anyways, cool build, but if you're going to run a proc set imo there's more appealing options like overwhelming surge and the all-dreaded sload's sembalance

    But it's not a proc set lol. A set by definition is something that requires more than one of something.

    Enchants apply to single pieces. While it is a damage proc, the point is that there are builds that don't need to be carried by proc sets.

    You mentioned a few of those sets.

    This build is being 'carrier by' torugs to proc oblivion damage, that ignores all resistances and defensive mechanics, very often... so the cheese for flavour is still there... call it what you want but that what it is build around...

    Can't please everyone.

    You could say...

    -Cloak carries me
    -Healing ultimate carries me
    -Bloodthirsty carries me
    -My team carries me
    -etc. etc. etc.
    Edited by brandonv516 on July 22, 2018 4:35PM
  • Waffennacht
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    Stigant wrote: »
    Zeromaz wrote: »
    Pijng wrote: »
    «NO DMG Proc Sets»
    How dare you...

    It feels a lil' bit unfamiliar when I see fear and incap/merciless on different bars. Is it comfortable to play?

    I like using Fear as a defensive measure in most cases. I find it comfortable but it's probably just something I got used to over time.
    SilverWF wrote: »
    "MAG NB BGs Build - "IRON MAN" - NO DMG Proc Sets"
    "FRONT: Torugs Pact w/ Oblivion Enchant"
    Okaaaay

    C'mon man give me a break lol.

    Thats not a proc, ding ***. Its an enchant

    an enchant...that deals damage...when you proc it lmao

    anyways, cool build, but if you're going to run a proc set imo there's more appealing options like overwhelming surge and the all-dreaded sload's sembalance

    But it's not a proc set lol. A set by definition is something that requires more than one of something.

    Enchants apply to single pieces. While it is a damage proc, the point is that there are builds that don't need to be carried by proc sets.

    You mentioned a few of those sets.

    This build is being 'carrier by' torugs to proc oblivion damage, that ignores all resistances and defensive mechanics, very often... so the cheese for flavour is still there... call it what you want but that what it is build around...

    Can't please everyone.

    Dude, it's fine. If a build can handle 12k Tooltip abilities but can't handle Oblivion Damage, well, Screw that build
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  • Lexxypwns
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    How do you deal with players that use a lot of dodge rolls?
  • Stigant
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    Stigant wrote: »
    Zeromaz wrote: »
    Pijng wrote: »
    «NO DMG Proc Sets»
    How dare you...

    It feels a lil' bit unfamiliar when I see fear and incap/merciless on different bars. Is it comfortable to play?

    I like using Fear as a defensive measure in most cases. I find it comfortable but it's probably just something I got used to over time.
    SilverWF wrote: »
    "MAG NB BGs Build - "IRON MAN" - NO DMG Proc Sets"
    "FRONT: Torugs Pact w/ Oblivion Enchant"
    Okaaaay

    C'mon man give me a break lol.

    Thats not a proc, ding ***. Its an enchant

    an enchant...that deals damage...when you proc it lmao

    anyways, cool build, but if you're going to run a proc set imo there's more appealing options like overwhelming surge and the all-dreaded sload's sembalance

    But it's not a proc set lol. A set by definition is something that requires more than one of something.

    Enchants apply to single pieces. While it is a damage proc, the point is that there are builds that don't need to be carried by proc sets.

    You mentioned a few of those sets.

    This build is being 'carrier by' torugs to proc oblivion damage, that ignores all resistances and defensive mechanics, very often... so the cheese for flavour is still there... call it what you want but that what it is build around...

    Can't please everyone.

    You could say...

    -Cloak carries me
    -Healing ultimate carries me
    -Bloodthirsty carries me
    -My team carries me
    -etc. etc. etc.

    I'm not bashing the build... if it works for you and is fun it's whatever for me... I gave up on balance in this game long time ago... but when you proudly advertise a non proc build just to introduce one that uses a mechanic that shouldn't have ever been implemented to the game in synergy with a set that makes it proc more often, than you shouldn't be surprised that someone is gonna point it out.
  • brandonv516
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    How do you deal with players that use a lot of dodge rolls?

    I find in BGs the dodging isn't such an epidemic due to resource restraint. I like Force Pulse though. It's fast and obviously very easy to spam. I have 3 chances to hit them and if one of the pulses does, they are going to get the Oblivion enchant also.
    Stigant wrote: »
    Stigant wrote: »
    Zeromaz wrote: »
    Pijng wrote: »
    «NO DMG Proc Sets»
    How dare you...

    It feels a lil' bit unfamiliar when I see fear and incap/merciless on different bars. Is it comfortable to play?

    I like using Fear as a defensive measure in most cases. I find it comfortable but it's probably just something I got used to over time.
    SilverWF wrote: »
    "MAG NB BGs Build - "IRON MAN" - NO DMG Proc Sets"
    "FRONT: Torugs Pact w/ Oblivion Enchant"
    Okaaaay

    C'mon man give me a break lol.

    Thats not a proc, ding ***. Its an enchant

    an enchant...that deals damage...when you proc it lmao

    anyways, cool build, but if you're going to run a proc set imo there's more appealing options like overwhelming surge and the all-dreaded sload's sembalance

    But it's not a proc set lol. A set by definition is something that requires more than one of something.

    Enchants apply to single pieces. While it is a damage proc, the point is that there are builds that don't need to be carried by proc sets.

    You mentioned a few of those sets.

    This build is being 'carrier by' torugs to proc oblivion damage, that ignores all resistances and defensive mechanics, very often... so the cheese for flavour is still there... call it what you want but that what it is build around...

    Can't please everyone.

    You could say...

    -Cloak carries me
    -Healing ultimate carries me
    -Bloodthirsty carries me
    -My team carries me
    -etc. etc. etc.

    I'm not bashing the build... if it works for you and is fun it's whatever for me... I gave up on balance in this game long time ago... but when you proudly advertise a non proc build just to introduce one that uses a mechanic that shouldn't have ever been implemented to the game in synergy with a set that makes it proc more often, than you shouldn't be surprised that someone is gonna point it out.

    No offense taken. If they ever decide that other enchants should go through shields, I may be inclined to change my weapon enchant.
    I updated the OP with a couple more videos to anyone interested in watching.
    
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    Not too much of an issue with dodge it seems like at the moment. Maybe it's because the majority of players are in heavy? I think only niche builds are using medium at the moment. Personally I like heavy on stam builds. Everyone plays a build to a specific strength. Torugs has been around for a LONG time. It's just clever use of game mechanics in a sorc meta. I mean, I'm running a shield breaker bow for back bar light attack oblivion damage. You just have to play to your enemy. What's there going to be the most of? Mag sorcs or shield users (ie light armor anything). Call it a crutch, I call it the developers made it, if its effective, then use it.
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    SilverWF wrote: »
    "MAG NB BGs Build - "IRON MAN" - NO DMG Proc Sets"
    "FRONT: Torugs Pact w/ Oblivion Enchant"
    Okaaaay

    An Oblivion Glyph is not a proc set lmao, it has been in the game since launch just like every other enchantment we currently have. The glyph itself was called something else, cant for the life of me remember what it was. But all they did was change the name. All enchants proc, so therefore the only way to have a non proc build by this silly definition is to use weapons with no glyphs on them at all. Thats just silly. Enchants are not proc sets lmao.
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  • brandonv516
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    Valen_Byte wrote: »
    SilverWF wrote: »
    "MAG NB BGs Build - "IRON MAN" - NO DMG Proc Sets"
    "FRONT: Torugs Pact w/ Oblivion Enchant"
    Okaaaay

    An Oblivion Glyph is not a proc set lmao, it has been in the game since launch just like every other enchantment we currently have. The glyph itself was called something else, cant for the life of me remember what it was. But all they did was change the name. All enchants proc, so therefore the only way to have a non proc build by this silly definition is to use weapons with no glyphs on them at all. Thats just silly. Enchants are not proc sets lmao.

    Daedric damage I believe.
  • LegacyDM
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    Hey neat build. I may have missed it but how are you getting 2428 health recovery? Can you break that down for me?
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  • NupidStoob
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    Valen_Byte wrote: »
    SilverWF wrote: »
    "MAG NB BGs Build - "IRON MAN" - NO DMG Proc Sets"
    "FRONT: Torugs Pact w/ Oblivion Enchant"
    Okaaaay

    An Oblivion Glyph is not a proc set lmao, it has been in the game since launch just like every other enchantment we currently have. The glyph itself was called something else, cant for the life of me remember what it was. But all they did was change the name. All enchants proc, so therefore the only way to have a non proc build by this silly definition is to use weapons with no glyphs on them at all. Thats just silly. Enchants are not proc sets lmao.

    The issue people have with proc sets is that they aren't driven by player skill. This build functions around the same principle whether you want to categorize it as proc or not is irrelevant.
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    Valen_Byte wrote: »
    SilverWF wrote: »
    "MAG NB BGs Build - "IRON MAN" - NO DMG Proc Sets"
    "FRONT: Torugs Pact w/ Oblivion Enchant"
    Okaaaay

    An Oblivion Glyph is not a proc set lmao, it has been in the game since launch just like every other enchantment we currently have. The glyph itself was called something else, cant for the life of me remember what it was. But all they did was change the name. All enchants proc, so therefore the only way to have a non proc build by this silly definition is to use weapons with no glyphs on them at all. Thats just silly. Enchants are not proc sets lmao.

    Daedric damage I believe.

    Yes thats it!! Thanks that was driving me nuts lol.
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    LegacyDM wrote: »
    Hey neat build. I may have missed it but how are you getting 2428 health recovery? Can you break that down for me?

    Troll King proc. It provides an insane amount of health recovery.
    NupidStoob wrote: »
    Valen_Byte wrote: »
    SilverWF wrote: »
    "MAG NB BGs Build - "IRON MAN" - NO DMG Proc Sets"
    "FRONT: Torugs Pact w/ Oblivion Enchant"
    Okaaaay

    An Oblivion Glyph is not a proc set lmao, it has been in the game since launch just like every other enchantment we currently have. The glyph itself was called something else, cant for the life of me remember what it was. But all they did was change the name. All enchants proc, so therefore the only way to have a non proc build by this silly definition is to use weapons with no glyphs on them at all. Thats just silly. Enchants are not proc sets lmao.

    The issue people have with proc sets is that they aren't driven by player skill. This build functions around the same principle whether you want to categorize it as proc or not is irrelevant.

    Yes Torug's allows your weapon enchants to be stronger and engage more often.

    It's very lethal and not defined as a damage proc set. Thank you.
    Edited by brandonv516 on July 23, 2018 8:12PM
  • Datthaw
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    Is zaan a proc set?
  • LegacyDM
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    LegacyDM wrote: »
    Hey neat build. I may have missed it but how are you getting 2428 health recovery? Can you break that down for me?

    Troll King proc. It provides an insane amount of health recovery.
    NupidStoob wrote: »
    Valen_Byte wrote: »
    SilverWF wrote: »
    "MAG NB BGs Build - "IRON MAN" - NO DMG Proc Sets"
    "FRONT: Torugs Pact w/ Oblivion Enchant"
    Okaaaay

    An Oblivion Glyph is not a proc set lmao, it has been in the game since launch just like every other enchantment we currently have. The glyph itself was called something else, cant for the life of me remember what it was. But all they did was change the name. All enchants proc, so therefore the only way to have a non proc build by this silly definition is to use weapons with no glyphs on them at all. Thats just silly. Enchants are not proc sets lmao.

    The issue people have with proc sets is that they aren't driven by player skill. This build functions around the same principle whether you want to categorize it as proc or not is irrelevant.

    Yes Torug's allows your weapon enchants to be stronger and engage more often.

    It's very lethal and not defined as a damage proc set. Thank you.

    Ok but it’s not accounting for all of the health recovery shown. Troll only does 1400 or so?
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  • brandonv516
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    LegacyDM wrote: »
    LegacyDM wrote: »
    Hey neat build. I may have missed it but how are you getting 2428 health recovery? Can you break that down for me?

    Troll King proc. It provides an insane amount of health recovery.
    NupidStoob wrote: »
    Valen_Byte wrote: »
    SilverWF wrote: »
    "MAG NB BGs Build - "IRON MAN" - NO DMG Proc Sets"
    "FRONT: Torugs Pact w/ Oblivion Enchant"
    Okaaaay

    An Oblivion Glyph is not a proc set lmao, it has been in the game since launch just like every other enchantment we currently have. The glyph itself was called something else, cant for the life of me remember what it was. But all they did was change the name. All enchants proc, so therefore the only way to have a non proc build by this silly definition is to use weapons with no glyphs on them at all. Thats just silly. Enchants are not proc sets lmao.

    The issue people have with proc sets is that they aren't driven by player skill. This build functions around the same principle whether you want to categorize it as proc or not is irrelevant.

    Yes Torug's allows your weapon enchants to be stronger and engage more often.

    It's very lethal and not defined as a damage proc set. Thank you.

    Ok but it’s not accounting for all of the health recovery shown. Troll only does 1400 or so?

    That's a good question. In that image I had the Steed mundus. Maybe that plus my base plus Troll King was the total you see in the image?
  • brandonv516
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    Tweaked the Iron Man build.  Now 2.0
    
    Still no damage proc sets.
    
    New video uploaded!
    
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