NA Vivec server crashes and resets captured scrolls

Azramel · July 2018

Everyone on the server got booted and after logging back in the DC scrolls EP has captured were sent back to their scroll temples

bigdavid11b16_ESO · July 2018

YES THIS JUST HAPPENED. PC NA. UNACCEPTABLE @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom. if you can roll back the scrolls to the temples, you can roll them back into the keeps they were in

Mujuro · July 2018

I was there as well, this happened 7s before the evaluation. Note that the character "buffs" are still showing that we have the scrolls, but they're back in the DC temples.

nouagea · July 2018

Can definitely confirm the madness taking place after the server booted me. Scroll buffs still up but the 2 DC scrolls captured by EP are back with DC.

dalishdelight · July 2018

Yeah, this was very disappointing. We had been holding the scrolls for so long too.

mimicks · July 2018

Gods wish I coulda been there to see EP zone chat right after. I wonder what caused the scroll rollback tho

jcasini222ub17_ESO · July 2018

From the DC side this was hilarious. It seemed all of us were sent directly to character login and when we got back in scrolls were back. I was mid fight then character select. Hilarious.

Cavedog · July 2018

...and EP is losing 20pts./hour as well as the scrolls.

What a crock. Server crashes, and ZOS steals the blue scrolls we had and puts them back behind blue gates. We had both blue scrolls, one in BRK and one in KC.

2:50pm PST, NA, Vivec

Ahanu2 · July 2018

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

its pretty disheartening when some of the few systems in PVP that are working correctly can just get reset with no word, rhyme, or reason.

maxjapank · July 2018

Are those the scrolls you pve doored just before oceanic time zone yesterday?

courier · July 2018

Gosh dangit guys, you'll only have a 4k lead now.

For serious though, that does suck, what will they do to rectify it?

Katahdin · July 2018

L.O.L.

imredneckson · July 2018

Ah campaign crashes. I remember back in the old days players would gather if they didn't like the map and would spam healing springs till the servers reset themselves.

Pchela · July 2018

My partner and I were in a delve when this happened. Upon exiting, we couldn’t mount and mobs were flying across the screen. I’m assuming everyone was kicked from server. We still have the scroll buffs on our sheets though.

Reverb · July 2018

imredneckson wrote: »

Ah campaign crashes. I remember back in the old days players would gather if they didn't like the map and would spam healing springs till the servers reset themselves.

Yup, and it happened enough that we just called it a scrollback and everyone knew what it meant.

Anazasi · July 2018

No whats pretty disheartening is the EP zerg that runs the map capping everything and taking everything. How is this balance for that time slot. Hell how is this even "gud" fights. Vivec is nothing more than a lag fest at every corner and ZOS is the one to blame for it.

FYI whos to say the server crashed? Maybe ZOS said you need to learn to not zerg so hard and took them away from you.

VaranisArano · July 2018

Anazasi wrote: »

No whats pretty disheartening is the EP zerg that runs the map capping everything and taking everything. How is this balance for that time slot. Hell how is this even "gud" fights. Vivec is nothing more than a lag fest at every corner and ZOS is the one to blame for it.

FYI whos to say the server crashed? Maybe ZOS said you need to learn to not zerg so hard and took them away from you.

Really? That's ridiculous. The server crashes and scrolls that were captured get reverted to their previous owner. That's a cut-and-dried ZOS problem with the servers.

Its not a "ZOS-took-a-principled-stand-on-zerging-and-reset-the-scrolls-selectively" problem. Because they didn't. Next time it could easily be AD sitting here on the forums whining because it was their effort that got flushed down the toilet.

I should hope that we all want working servers, no matter our alliance.

SamKrow · July 2018

Anazasi wrote: »

No whats pretty disheartening is the EP zerg that runs the map capping everything and taking everything. How is this balance for that time slot. Hell how is this even "gud" fights. Vivec is nothing more than a lag fest at every corner and ZOS is the one to blame for it.

FYI whos to say the server crashed? Maybe ZOS said you need to learn to not zerg so hard and took them away from you.

Like AD has any right talking about Zerging.

IxSTALKERxI · July 2018

Elder Scrolls Offline.

SamKrow · July 2018

Not our fault AD cant keep it up and only runs 2 hours a night.In those hours they take a 60 man raid to pvdoor a keep or resource.

Kartalin · July 2018

courier wrote: »

For serious though, that does suck, what will they do to rectify it?

Well I suspect they'll just take them back before primetime tomorrow. Wait, were you talking about ZOS?

Kadoin · July 2018

I pray for PC NA...but PC EU more.

Ghostbane · July 2018

It is good all the new players got to experience a classic #scrollback before the event starts. Just so there is no confusion.

Luthid · July 2018

Midyear Mayhem indeed.

Agrippa_Invisus · July 2018

This year's midyear mayhem is going to be an absolute garbage parade.

The level of complete non-operability of the Cyrodiil servers is beyond anything I've seen in my memory (discounting the 2 weeks post lighting patch).

I logged on briefly this morning before work and with non-locked off hour pops I was still rubber banding from outside a keep to back inside of it. Nothing was even under siege on the map and no major fights were happening anywhere.

I'm seriously considering ending my monthly sub. Paying ZOS is just rewarding them for bad behavior.

casparian · July 2018

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

This year's midyear mayhem is going to be an absolute garbage parade.

The level of complete non-operability of the Cyrodiil servers is beyond anything I've seen in my memory (discounting the 2 weeks post lighting patch).

I logged on briefly this morning before work and with non-locked off hour pops I was still rubber banding from outside a keep to back inside of it. Nothing was even under siege on the map and no major fights were happening anywhere.

I'm seriously considering ending my monthly sub. Paying ZOS is just rewarding them for bad behavior.

Why haven't you moved to Shor or Sotha then?

I'm genuinely curious. If more guilds from each alliance moved over to Shor it could actually be a great campaign, instead of the emp farm it currently is. Is the idea that the campaign where Drac is is the only competitive one, or what?

Rohamad_Ali · July 2018

Mid year mayhem should not be available on Vivec . That server is already a chitshow .

barshemm · July 2018

Unless you like sitting in queue forever and trolling PvE players trying to quest in towns, mid year mayhem is never enjoyable.

Agrippa_Invisus · July 2018

casparian wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

This year's midyear mayhem is going to be an absolute garbage parade.

The level of complete non-operability of the Cyrodiil servers is beyond anything I've seen in my memory (discounting the 2 weeks post lighting patch).

I logged on briefly this morning before work and with non-locked off hour pops I was still rubber banding from outside a keep to back inside of it. Nothing was even under siege on the map and no major fights were happening anywhere.

I'm seriously considering ending my monthly sub. Paying ZOS is just rewarding them for bad behavior.

Why haven't you moved to Shor or Sotha then?

I'm genuinely curious. If more guilds from each alliance moved over to Shor it could actually be a great campaign, instead of the emp farm it currently is. Is the idea that the campaign where Drac is is the only competitive one, or what?

My guild is homed on Vivec and I am homed where my guild is.

And where I'm homed isn't the issue at hand. It's that ZOS is about to push forward an event that will flood the servers with players when they're doing worse at handling their current player load than they have in years.

VaranisArano · July 2018

casparian wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

This year's midyear mayhem is going to be an absolute garbage parade.

The level of complete non-operability of the Cyrodiil servers is beyond anything I've seen in my memory (discounting the 2 weeks post lighting patch).

I logged on briefly this morning before work and with non-locked off hour pops I was still rubber banding from outside a keep to back inside of it. Nothing was even under siege on the map and no major fights were happening anywhere.

I'm seriously considering ending my monthly sub. Paying ZOS is just rewarding them for bad behavior.

Why haven't you moved to Shor or Sotha then?

I'm genuinely curious. If more guilds from each alliance moved over to Shor it could actually be a great campaign, instead of the emp farm it currently is. Is the idea that the campaign where Drac is is the only competitive one, or what?

The problem with a guild moving over to Shor is that unless there is an equal number of opposition guilds that also move over, that guild merely perpetuates the One Dominant Alliance thing that happens on most smaller campaigns.

My guild has done it. We moved over to Shor for a bit, and dominated. No offense to the regulars of Shor, but a Vivec PVP guild showing up tends to dominate the map. Thing is, no opposition guilds came over during that time, so we had no one to compete with. Rather than continue to dominate Shor for our faction (and really annoy the regular opposition on Shor), we went back to Vivec, where we faced actual competition and weren't unbalancing a generally lower pop campaign.

So unless guilds from EP, AD, and DC all go over to Shor, one guild going over just unbalances the lower pop campaign in favor of their faction and doesn't create the competitive environment of Vivec. It just makes Shor's problems worse. And the guilds of EP, AD and DC generally don't cooperate well enough to make such a move to Shor work.

casparian · July 2018

VaranisArano wrote: »

casparian wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

This year's midyear mayhem is going to be an absolute garbage parade.

The level of complete non-operability of the Cyrodiil servers is beyond anything I've seen in my memory (discounting the 2 weeks post lighting patch).

I logged on briefly this morning before work and with non-locked off hour pops I was still rubber banding from outside a keep to back inside of it. Nothing was even under siege on the map and no major fights were happening anywhere.

I'm seriously considering ending my monthly sub. Paying ZOS is just rewarding them for bad behavior.

Why haven't you moved to Shor or Sotha then?

I'm genuinely curious. If more guilds from each alliance moved over to Shor it could actually be a great campaign, instead of the emp farm it currently is. Is the idea that the campaign where Drac is is the only competitive one, or what?

The problem with a guild moving over to Shor is that unless there is an equal number of opposition guilds that also move over, that guild merely perpetuates the One Dominant Alliance thing that happens on most smaller campaigns.

My guild has done it. We moved over to Shor for a bit, and dominated. No offense to the regulars of Shor, but a Vivec PVP guild showing up tends to dominate the map. Thing is, no opposition guilds came over during that time, so we had no one to compete with. Rather than continue to dominate Shor for our faction (and really annoy the regular opposition on Shor), we went back to Vivec, where we faced actual competition and weren't unbalancing a generally lower pop campaign.

So unless guilds from EP, AD, and DC all go over to Shor, one guild going over just unbalances the lower pop campaign in favor of their faction and doesn't create the competitive environment of Vivec. It just makes Shor's problems worse. And the guilds of EP, AD and DC generally don't cooperate well enough to make such a move to Shor work.

I get that; I main Shor and see exactly what you're describing happen every Friday night when some Vivec guild gets fed up with the queue or the lag and comes to Shor for an hour. Most Shor regulars are either bad pugs or run in groups of <10 and just get dominated by those groups.

But my impression is that all, or almost all, Vivec regulars are fed up with the lag and performance and the general shittiness of the campaign. Surely that means guilds across all three alliances have incentive to go there. This seems like a basic coordination problem to me. But maybe the current state of Vivec politics makes that difficult to solve.