Medium armor summed up

usmguy1234 · July 2018

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kaithuzar · July 2018

Medium armor wouldn’t bee so bad if there were easier ways of getting minor evasion.

Right now the only class that can stack minor evasion with major evasion is stamina warden.

usmguy1234 · July 2018

kaithuzar wrote: »

Medium armor wouldn’t bee so bad if there were easier ways of getting minor evasion.

Right now the only class that can stack minor evasion with major evasion is stamina warden.

Needs to have damage reduction after dodgeroll and snare immunity. Sneak passive is worthless to everyone but nightblades.

Minno · July 2018

usmguy1234 wrote: »

kaithuzar wrote: »

Medium armor wouldn’t bee so bad if there were easier ways of getting minor evasion.

Right now the only class that can stack minor evasion with major evasion is stamina warden.

Needs to have damage reduction after dodgeroll and snare immunity. Sneak passive is worthless to everyone but nightblades.

Needs better 2pc sets and maybe a nerf to some HA sets.

usmguy1234 · July 2018

Minno wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

kaithuzar wrote: »

Medium armor wouldn’t bee so bad if there were easier ways of getting minor evasion.

Right now the only class that can stack minor evasion with major evasion is stamina warden.

Needs to have damage reduction after dodgeroll and snare immunity. Sneak passive is worthless to everyone but nightblades.

Needs better 2pc sets and maybe a nerf to some HA sets.

Yeah it's a little silly that most heavy sets give 200 more weapon damage than medium sets. I guess the devs found a way to sneak in the old wrath passive.

Twohothardware · July 2018

The huge majority of StamNB's in the game run in Cyrodiil and in Duels wearing Medium Armor. StamNB is regarded as the strongest performing Stamina class. The other Stamina classes like StamDK and StamWarden tend to run Heavy Armor more. So not sure how the complaint of how bad Medium Armor is squares with my above two points.

I wouldn't mind seeing Medium Armor passives changed to work better on the other classes in the game that don't have Cloak and don't Sneak but StamNB would be busted as heck if Medium Armor was just simply buffed.

usmguy1234 · July 2018

Twohothardware wrote: »

The huge majority of StamNB's in the game run in Cyrodiil and in Duels wearing Medium Armor. StamNB is regarded as the strongest performing Stamina class. The other Stamina classes like StamDK and StamWarden tend to run Heavy Armor more. So not sure how the complaint of how bad Medium Armor is squares with my above two points.

I wouldn't mind seeing Medium Armor passives changed to work better on the other classes in the game that don't have Cloak and don't Sneak but StamNB would be busted as heck if Medium Armor was just simply buffed.

Absolutely, it would be really though to buff medium without making stamblades even more stronger than they already are. I've run medium on my stamplar and stamdk and it's just terrible survivability wise. If you aren't a stamblade the only thing that's slightly effective is running speed pots or having a class with cheap access to major expedition.

Ragnarock41 · July 2018

Yeah crying about stamDK and heavy armor and trying to sell it as why medium armor is weak.

Its not like magsorcs and stamblades are one shotting people left and right, but surely its the fault of stamDK. Everything is the fault of SnB stamDks in heavy armor. Erase them out of the game, Its definitely going to solve all your problems.

And 12k low slash? 15k take flight?

I do spent a lot of time in medium armor and let me tell you this video is absolute BS ramblings of a noob, and has nothing to do with why medium armor is weak. A proper medium armor build should have around 18-20k resistances without even building for it, and if you're under that, go learn how to make a build instead of making videos.

The-Baconator · July 2018

Minno wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

kaithuzar wrote: »

Medium armor wouldn’t bee so bad if there were easier ways of getting minor evasion.

Right now the only class that can stack minor evasion with major evasion is stamina warden.

Needs to have damage reduction after dodgeroll and snare immunity. Sneak passive is worthless to everyone but nightblades.

Needs better 2pc sets and maybe a nerf to some HA sets.

Or just simply medium\light armor sets that can net you as much damage, as reliably, as seemingly every other PvP oriented heavy set.

KingJ · July 2018

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Twohothardware wrote: »

The huge majority of StamNB's in the game run in Cyrodiil and in Duels wearing Medium Armor. StamNB is regarded as the strongest performing Stamina class. The other Stamina classes like StamDK and StamWarden tend to run Heavy Armor more. So not sure how the complaint of how bad Medium Armor is squares with my above two points.

I wouldn't mind seeing Medium Armor passives changed to work better on the other classes in the game that don't have Cloak and don't Sneak but StamNB would be busted as heck if Medium Armor was just simply buffed.

Absolutely, it would be really though to buff medium without making stamblades even more stronger than they already are. I've run medium on my stamplar and stamdk and it's just terrible survivability wise. If you aren't a stamblade the only thing that's slightly effective is running speed pots or having a class with cheap access to major expedition.

The issues is that stamblades are the only spec who have something to deal with undodgeable attacks which is the focus of medium. When a medium armor build is force to use a secondary defense mechanic they are punished for it like stopping stam regen while blocking.Alot of stugg stops stam regen which hurts medium builds since you need alot of recovery to make use of multiple dodges.

They need to make it so that when dodge fails medium aren't punished for using another defense mechanic.

Exodium · July 2018

Easy fix. They should give shuffle the 8 seconds of snare immunity that forward momentum offers and reduce forward momentum to 3 seconds. The sneak passive needs to be replaced with something that offers better mobility too. I wouldn't replace it with a damage passive though because then stamnbs will be TOO strong.

I see no reason why the "mobility" armour type has less mobility than heavy armour forward momentum users. Heavy armour users will say we can dodge more, but we have to burn stamina to do that whereas they just have to press one button that gives them 8 seconds.

Then, to ensure that stamnbs aren't buffed by this too much, they should FINALLY address cloak and give it either a cool down or the "Streak treatment" and make successive cloaking cost more.

There's honestly no other game I've played that gives a class the freedom to be invisible for such prolonged periods of fighting.

Darkmage1337 · July 2018

Light Armor / Magicka-Users get the 'Concentration' Light Armor Passive for 5k Spell Penetration.
Medium Armor / Stamina-Users get 0 Physical Penetration Passive.....
See the problem -- the imbalance?

@ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_GinaBruno

IZZEFlameLash · July 2018

Darkmage1337 wrote: »

Light Armor / Magicka-Users get the 'Concentration' Light Armor Passive for 5k Spell Penetration.
Medium Armor / Stamina-Users get 0 Physical Penetration Passive.....
See the problem -- the imbalance?

@ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_GinaBruno

Medium Armor penetration will be a huge problem if it was indeed added. It is already easy to stack WD on stam specs and with same amount of penetration, you get even more killer stam builds running around and anyone not running shield will have nothing they can do to protect themselves.

Wreuntzylla · July 2018

Darkmage1337 wrote: »

Light Armor / Magicka-Users get the 'Concentration' Light Armor Passive for 5k Spell Penetration.
Medium Armor / Stamina-Users get 0 Physical Penetration Passive.....
See the problem -- the imbalance?

@ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_GinaBruno

Yeah, and light armor gets all that spell power buff!!!!

TimeDazzler · July 2018

Reduce the cost of shuffle and increase the snare immunity to 5 seconds.

usmguy1234 · July 2018

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Yeah crying about stamDK and heavy armor and trying to sell it as why medium armor is weak.

Its not like magsorcs and stamblades are one shotting people left and right, but surely its the fault of stamDK. Everything is the fault of SnB stamDks in heavy armor. Erase them out of the game, Its definitely going to solve all your problems.

And 12k low slash? 15k take flight?

I do spent a lot of time in medium armor and let me tell you this video is absolute BS ramblings of a noob, and has nothing to do with why medium armor is weak. A proper medium armor build should have around 18-20k resistances without even building for it, and if you're under that, go learn how to make a build instead of making videos.

This guy is a pretty damn good stamplar. And yeah it's not really factional but more of a hilarious rant. If you can't see that you need to get the stick out of your butt. Let's all agree that medium has issues and those issues will never get resolved if we don't talk about it.

Ragnarock41 · July 2018

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Yeah crying about stamDK and heavy armor and trying to sell it as why medium armor is weak.

Its not like magsorcs and stamblades are one shotting people left and right, but surely its the fault of stamDK. Everything is the fault of SnB stamDks in heavy armor. Erase them out of the game, Its definitely going to solve all your problems.

And 12k low slash? 15k take flight?

I do spent a lot of time in medium armor and let me tell you this video is absolute BS ramblings of a noob, and has nothing to do with why medium armor is weak. A proper medium armor build should have around 18-20k resistances without even building for it, and if you're under that, go learn how to make a build instead of making videos.

This guy is a pretty damn good stamplar. And yeah it's not really factional but more of a hilarious rant. If you can't see that you need to get the stick out of your butt. Let's all agree that medium has issues and those issues will never get resolved if we don't talk about it.

Then talk about medium issues not other stuff. I don't have anything personal about the person in the video, I've also said this times and times and times and friggen times again that nerfing heavy armor will not solve any of your problems. Nerfing stamDK even further will not solve any of your problems. . Because every time there is a medium armor threat there is going to be that one ABSOLUTE ''genious'' who blames stamDK for it. And I'm sick and tired of all the dummy dums who think they are ''pretty damn good'' players because they can kill scrubs in open world.

At this point I think you don't even want medium to be buffed. I just feel like you people just want heavy armor nerfed down for good so that both medium and heavy stamina is equally garbage and all that remains are stamblades.

usmguy1234 · July 2018

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Yeah crying about stamDK and heavy armor and trying to sell it as why medium armor is weak.

Its not like magsorcs and stamblades are one shotting people left and right, but surely its the fault of stamDK. Everything is the fault of SnB stamDks in heavy armor. Erase them out of the game, Its definitely going to solve all your problems.

And 12k low slash? 15k take flight?

I do spent a lot of time in medium armor and let me tell you this video is absolute BS ramblings of a noob, and has nothing to do with why medium armor is weak. A proper medium armor build should have around 18-20k resistances without even building for it, and if you're under that, go learn how to make a build instead of making videos.

This guy is a pretty damn good stamplar. And yeah it's not really factional but more of a hilarious rant. If you can't see that you need to get the stick out of your butt. Let's all agree that medium has issues and those issues will never get resolved if we don't talk about it.

Then talk about medium issues not other stuff.

You realize I'm not the person who made the video right?

Ragnarock41 · July 2018

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Yeah crying about stamDK and heavy armor and trying to sell it as why medium armor is weak.

Its not like magsorcs and stamblades are one shotting people left and right, but surely its the fault of stamDK. Everything is the fault of SnB stamDks in heavy armor. Erase them out of the game, Its definitely going to solve all your problems.

And 12k low slash? 15k take flight?

I do spent a lot of time in medium armor and let me tell you this video is absolute BS ramblings of a noob, and has nothing to do with why medium armor is weak. A proper medium armor build should have around 18-20k resistances without even building for it, and if you're under that, go learn how to make a build instead of making videos.

This guy is a pretty damn good stamplar. And yeah it's not really factional but more of a hilarious rant. If you can't see that you need to get the stick out of your butt. Let's all agree that medium has issues and those issues will never get resolved if we don't talk about it.

Then talk about medium issues not other stuff.

You realize I'm not the person who made the video right?

I never pointed the argument towards you till you started insulting me personally. Go up there and read what you said, then read what I said.

Go back to my main post and SHOW ME, where did I said that this video is yours or where did I blamed you for any of his ramblings?

But obviously you want to be his advocate otherwise you would not get triggered and insult me because I criticized someone else's video.

usmguy1234 · July 2018

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Yeah crying about stamDK and heavy armor and trying to sell it as why medium armor is weak.

Its not like magsorcs and stamblades are one shotting people left and right, but surely its the fault of stamDK. Everything is the fault of SnB stamDks in heavy armor. Erase them out of the game, Its definitely going to solve all your problems.

And 12k low slash? 15k take flight?

I do spent a lot of time in medium armor and let me tell you this video is absolute BS ramblings of a noob, and has nothing to do with why medium armor is weak. A proper medium armor build should have around 18-20k resistances without even building for it, and if you're under that, go learn how to make a build instead of making videos.

This guy is a pretty damn good stamplar. And yeah it's not really factional but more of a hilarious rant. If you can't see that you need to get the stick out of your butt. Let's all agree that medium has issues and those issues will never get resolved if we don't talk about it.

Then talk about medium issues not other stuff.

You realize I'm not the person who made the video right?

I never pointed the argument towards you till you started insulting me personally. Go up there and read what you said, then read what I said.

Go back to my main post and SHOW ME, where did I said that this video is yours or where did I blamed you for any of his ramblings?

But obviously you want to be his advocate otherwise you would not get triggered and insult me because I criticized someone else's video.

Part of the problem with medium is that the other weights are absolutely outperforming it in damage and survivability. Heavy sets should be for tanking only and medium/heavy for dps and healing and because Zos blurs those lines there are huge balance issues. Having heavy sets that give upwards of 600 weapon damage is just asinine.

Feanor · July 2018

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Yeah crying about stamDK and heavy armor and trying to sell it as why medium armor is weak.

Its not like magsorcs and stamblades are one shotting people left and right, but surely its the fault of stamDK. Everything is the fault of SnB stamDks in heavy armor. Erase them out of the game, Its definitely going to solve all your problems.

And 12k low slash? 15k take flight?

I do spent a lot of time in medium armor and let me tell you this video is absolute BS ramblings of a noob, and has nothing to do with why medium armor is weak. A proper medium armor build should have around 18-20k resistances without even building for it, and if you're under that, go learn how to make a build instead of making videos.

This guy is a pretty damn good stamplar. And yeah it's not really factional but more of a hilarious rant. If you can't see that you need to get the stick out of your butt. Let's all agree that medium has issues and those issues will never get resolved if we don't talk about it.

Then talk about medium issues not other stuff.

You realize I'm not the person who made the video right?

I never pointed the argument towards you till you started insulting me personally. Go up there and read what you said, then read what I said.

Go back to my main post and SHOW ME, where did I said that this video is yours or where did I blamed you for any of his ramblings?

But obviously you want to be his advocate otherwise you would not get triggered and insult me because I criticized someone else's video.

Part of the problem with medium is that the other weights are absolutely outperforming it in damage and survivability. Heavy sets should be for tanking only and medium/heavy for dps and healing and because Zos blurs those lines there are huge balance issues. Having heavy sets that give upwards of 600 weapon damage is just asinine.

But...the Wrath passive change solved the problem. Right?

usmguy1234 · July 2018

Feanor wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Yeah crying about stamDK and heavy armor and trying to sell it as why medium armor is weak.

Its not like magsorcs and stamblades are one shotting people left and right, but surely its the fault of stamDK. Everything is the fault of SnB stamDks in heavy armor. Erase them out of the game, Its definitely going to solve all your problems.

And 12k low slash? 15k take flight?

I do spent a lot of time in medium armor and let me tell you this video is absolute BS ramblings of a noob, and has nothing to do with why medium armor is weak. A proper medium armor build should have around 18-20k resistances without even building for it, and if you're under that, go learn how to make a build instead of making videos.

This guy is a pretty damn good stamplar. And yeah it's not really factional but more of a hilarious rant. If you can't see that you need to get the stick out of your butt. Let's all agree that medium has issues and those issues will never get resolved if we don't talk about it.

Then talk about medium issues not other stuff.

You realize I'm not the person who made the video right?

I never pointed the argument towards you till you started insulting me personally. Go up there and read what you said, then read what I said.

Go back to my main post and SHOW ME, where did I said that this video is yours or where did I blamed you for any of his ramblings?

But obviously you want to be his advocate otherwise you would not get triggered and insult me because I criticized someone else's video.

Part of the problem with medium is that the other weights are absolutely outperforming it in damage and survivability. Heavy sets should be for tanking only and medium/heavy for dps and healing and because Zos blurs those lines there are huge balance issues. Having heavy sets that give upwards of 600 weapon damage is just asinine.

But...the Wrath passive change solved the problem. Right?

Exactly. One of my older comments on this thread addressed that.

Brrrofski · July 2018

Honestly, survival in medium is the problem. Damage is fine with it.

The problem isn't as bad on a stamblade as you have cloak, shade and fear to take pressure off.

Playing anything else open world heavier is just so much easier. Damage is so high right now that you really suffer in medium. Especially with so many undoegeable skills (rune cage and Stella tornado being the biggest issues - dawnbreaker is another one but it's an ultrasound so ok with that being undoegeable) at the moment. Take a big damage spike and try to roll dodge to safety and you still die half the time.

No idea what the answer is though. Shuffle 100% needs a snare immunity buff. Maybe double it to 1 second immunity per piece of medium. That would be a start.

usmguy1234 · July 2018

Brrrofski wrote: »

Honestly, survival in medium is the problem. Damage is fine with it.

The problem isn't as bad on a stamblade as you have cloak, shade and fear to take pressure off.

Playing anything else open world heavier is just so much easier. Damage is so high right now that you really suffer in medium. Especially with so many undoegeable skills (rune cage and Stella tornado being the biggest issues - dawnbreaker is another one but it's an ultrasound so ok with that being undoegeable) at the moment. Take a big damage spike and try to roll dodge to safety and you still die half the time.

No idea what the answer is though. Shuffle 100% needs a snare immunity buff. Maybe double it to 1 second immunity per piece of medium. That would be a start.

Right damage is good but when heavy hits just as hard as you do that's when the disparity comes up. Heavy should be tanking only.

Ragnarock41 · July 2018

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Yeah crying about stamDK and heavy armor and trying to sell it as why medium armor is weak.

Its not like magsorcs and stamblades are one shotting people left and right, but surely its the fault of stamDK. Everything is the fault of SnB stamDks in heavy armor. Erase them out of the game, Its definitely going to solve all your problems.

And 12k low slash? 15k take flight?

I do spent a lot of time in medium armor and let me tell you this video is absolute BS ramblings of a noob, and has nothing to do with why medium armor is weak. A proper medium armor build should have around 18-20k resistances without even building for it, and if you're under that, go learn how to make a build instead of making videos.

This guy is a pretty damn good stamplar. And yeah it's not really factional but more of a hilarious rant. If you can't see that you need to get the stick out of your butt. Let's all agree that medium has issues and those issues will never get resolved if we don't talk about it.

Then talk about medium issues not other stuff.

You realize I'm not the person who made the video right?

I never pointed the argument towards you till you started insulting me personally. Go up there and read what you said, then read what I said.

Go back to my main post and SHOW ME, where did I said that this video is yours or where did I blamed you for any of his ramblings?

But obviously you want to be his advocate otherwise you would not get triggered and insult me because I criticized someone else's video.

Part of the problem with medium is that the other weights are absolutely outperforming it in damage and survivability. Heavy sets should be for tanking only and medium/heavy for dps and healing and because Zos blurs those lines there are huge balance issues. Having heavy sets that give upwards of 600 weapon damage is just asinine.

''Heavy should be for tanking only'' and that is where we stop having a discussion my dude. Those 600 wd heavy sets can now be used on medium setups, and you're still asking for heavy nerfs instead of medium buffs. See, you're just being the type I mentioned above.

What type? ''nerf heavy cause my medium build sucks and I don't want people to have fun'' type.

I do fine damage with my medium builds. And my healing is also pretty solid aswell. My one and only issue is survivability due to low max hp and low resistances, creating a situation where I'm super weak against burst, and have to build crazy stam regen or use resistance sets to make up for it. (this also means I'm gonna have lower damage cause I build for sustain to afford dodge rolls and all that sprinting which is extremely punishing, if anything those mechanics need some looking into. No other playstyle is punished as much as medium users are.)

When this game first came out heavy armor was for ''Tanking only'', just as you wished. And guess what happened?

Nobody used it.

ak_pvp · July 2018

The person in the video is evidently pretty bad, and/or using outdated info.

1) Super sacrificial in damage, mobility, and sustain. Its impossible to sustain permablock without giving up literally every bit of damage and a lot of mobility
2) Heavy and block have been nerfed to the point that block is barely a viable defense tactic. You need to use mobility a lot.

Heavy passively nowadays is ONLY tank armour, wrath is gone even though it wasn't too strong, block cost is gone, and const was nerfed repetitively, its worse than pre buff, where no one used it. The only reason heavy is decent with damage is because of sets... sets that magicka doesn't have.

Medium sucks, but that isn't because of heavy. If heavy was so OP, then light wouldn't be meta for all mag classes solo/small group. (A few healbots use heavy)
Nor would the two most popular classes in the game, sorc/stamblade use light/med. And even in stam, only 2 classes definitively use heavy, stamden and stamDK, stamsorc and stamplar can use either, stamplar leans medium and stamsorc leans heavy this patch.

So 3 classes who prefer heavy for skilled play (healbotting is not) and 1 of them is bottom tier since they rely on your image of "pure" heavy. StamDK has only tanky defense and it suuucks.

ak_pvp · July 2018

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

Honestly, survival in medium is the problem. Damage is fine with it.

The problem isn't as bad on a stamblade as you have cloak, shade and fear to take pressure off.

Playing anything else open world heavier is just so much easier. Damage is so high right now that you really suffer in medium. Especially with so many undoegeable skills (rune cage and Stella tornado being the biggest issues - dawnbreaker is another one but it's an ultrasound so ok with that being undoegeable) at the moment. Take a big damage spike and try to roll dodge to safety and you still die half the time.

No idea what the answer is though. Shuffle 100% needs a snare immunity buff. Maybe double it to 1 second immunity per piece of medium. That would be a start.

Right damage is good but when heavy hits just as hard as you do that's when the disparity comes up. Heavy should be tanking only.

Tanking in this game is not the only method of survivability, unlike other games where if you aren't a tank, you are a glass cannon, ESO gives light/med builds comparable survivability through shields, rolling and a heavy focus on mobility.

So, which one do you want to give up on med/shield builds, survival or damage?

Crixus8000 · July 2018

The sneak passive on medium should be changed to something useful for all people who use it instead of just stamblades, and shuffle should get a buff to snare immunity.

Buff medium, but please stop with all the nerf heavy replies. It has already been nerfed and the issue isn't that heavy is op, because it's not, there is just so much dmg in pvp right now and medium is lacking. Those are the issues.

usmguy1234 · July 2018

ak_pvp wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

Honestly, survival in medium is the problem. Damage is fine with it.

The problem isn't as bad on a stamblade as you have cloak, shade and fear to take pressure off.

Playing anything else open world heavier is just so much easier. Damage is so high right now that you really suffer in medium. Especially with so many undoegeable skills (rune cage and Stella tornado being the biggest issues - dawnbreaker is another one but it's an ultrasound so ok with that being undoegeable) at the moment. Take a big damage spike and try to roll dodge to safety and you still die half the time.

No idea what the answer is though. Shuffle 100% needs a snare immunity buff. Maybe double it to 1 second immunity per piece of medium. That would be a start.

Right damage is good but when heavy hits just as hard as you do that's when the disparity comes up. Heavy should be tanking only.

Tanking in this game is not the only method of survivability, unlike other games where if you aren't a tank, you are a glass cannon, ESO gives light/med builds comparable survivability through shields, rolling and a heavy focus on mobility.

So, which one do you want to give up on med/shield builds, survival or damage?

Not true at all... survivability wise heavy and light are more equal than light is to medium. Also, tanking is a broader term than you claim it to be.

thankyourat · July 2018

usmguy1234 wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

Honestly, survival in medium is the problem. Damage is fine with it.

The problem isn't as bad on a stamblade as you have cloak, shade and fear to take pressure off.

Playing anything else open world heavier is just so much easier. Damage is so high right now that you really suffer in medium. Especially with so many undoegeable skills (rune cage and Stella tornado being the biggest issues - dawnbreaker is another one but it's an ultrasound so ok with that being undoegeable) at the moment. Take a big damage spike and try to roll dodge to safety and you still die half the time.

No idea what the answer is though. Shuffle 100% needs a snare immunity buff. Maybe double it to 1 second immunity per piece of medium. That would be a start.

Right damage is good but when heavy hits just as hard as you do that's when the disparity comes up. Heavy should be tanking only.

Tanking in this game is not the only method of survivability, unlike other games where if you aren't a tank, you are a glass cannon, ESO gives light/med builds comparable survivability through shields, rolling and a heavy focus on mobility.

So, which one do you want to give up on med/shield builds, survival or damage?

Not true at all... survivability wise heavy and light are more equal than light is to medium. Also, tanking is a broader term than you claim it to be.

That's not true I actually think medium is stronger than light for open world PvP. A single 7 or 8k damage shield will get taken down so fast. If you play solo the mobility of medium will actually add more survivability than annulment. In a controlled 1v1 light offers good survivability but 1vX light is pretty garbage and it's one of the reason you don't see any solo light armor Magicka builds in cyrodiil (excluding mag sorc)

Ampnode · July 2018

Anyone play around with the Fortified Brass set on medium? Sustain and damage of medium while having the mitigation of heavy. In my opinion, it makes it a viable choice. True, you shouldn't have to wear a full 5pc on medium to not get trashed on in PvP, but definitely does help until changes are/if made.

Only possible buffs I can think of is giving medium some physical penetration, like light armor, and buffing the duration of the snare immunity on shuffle.