Awesome info thanks, I'm definitely a new chum (scrub) when it comes to Cyrodiil, and it's been a long time since I was there, I needed a refresher.

groups do towns, each town has two quest-givers, each quest-giver has 5 quests = 10 rewards per towns x by 5 towns = 50 rewards.

Don't buy forward camps. You'll get plenty of them from the Rewards of the Worthy.

Clarification: last year, forward camps dropped as part of the festival rewards received alongside the rewards of the Worthy.

Good info opp.

I’ll add some more.

- Make sure you do the initial quest. It takes under 5 minutes and gives you 2 skill points. There is somewhere between a 0 and 0.000005% chance you’ll see an enemy player during this quest.
- Don’t try to be a hero. There are guys like me who have spent YEARS in Cyrodiil and will ruin your afternoon quickly if you continue to put yourself in bad spots. Fighting at range has its merits. Here is a helpful diagram for those not used to Zerg on Zerg warfare.

Back Line 1 —————————————
Front Line 1 VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
Front Line 2 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Back Line 2 —————————————

Unless you are a tank or have a ton of experience in Cyrodiil DO NOT HANG OUT IN THE FRONT LINES! Dart up from the back line and then dart back. Move laterally on the back line, then forward for an attack or 2 and then back, and then laterally in the back and so on. This will keep you alive better than any armor ever could. Use your factionmates as meat shields.
- Do not assume that holding block will give you a free pass. It generally won’t. Now, don’t get me wrong, there are very few long term PvPers these days who will just hang out and gank at quest hubs and such ... but if you’re in the way you’re in the way. If you don’t want to PvP in PvP do not go near the center ring and stay to the outskirts.
- It took me an hour to get Alliance Rank 5 from zero yesterday. Even if you have a broken controller with just one button you can spam you’ll have Vigor in under 2 hours just by spamming heals in a group.
- Cyrodiil is not a place to expect a “fair fight”. You might be able to win 95% of your duels and still get absolutely wrecked in Cyrodiil. If you’re in a 1 on 1 situation you better rest assured that it will be a 2 on 1 or worse any second later. So keep your head on a swivel. The number of kills I have where 2 people were going ham on each other while completely ignoring the 20 people fighting around them, leading to a death from me 30 meters away is easily in the thousands.
- Always be running, riding or hiding.
- If it looks like a trap it probably is. If it doesn’t look like a trap it’s already too late.
- Aggression is key. People lose because they turtle up ... and worse ... ball up. If you keep pressure on your opponent the chances of them making a mistake increase dramatically.
- Per the previous point ... if you see 10+ people all balling up then rest assured you are just moments away from a destro ultimate train moving right at you. But ... like a train it’s hard to get a dozen cars (or in this case players) to move in unison in any way aside from forward and backward. So stand 20 or 30 meters away to the left or right and ultimate bomb the middle of the train with a meteor or a negate or even a non-ultimate like Time Stop. You’ll slowly help dwindle down the train and get a ton of AP at once.

There are thousands of other tips that people can share. These are just a few. While there are things that can be exploited - I can die to snipe spamming from full health for example - most of those are exploits in YOUR OWN BUILD - I don’t run a lot of crit resist by choice - as opposed to monsters in the closet. At the end of the day just keep calm, have some fun and do your best to avoid situations that will lead to your certain death by your own doing and you’ll have a great time.

VaranisArano wrote: »

Don't buy forward camps. You'll get plenty of them from the Rewards of the Worthy.

We must be getting different rewards.

They also cost 20k AP. If you’re a new player while it would be appreciated, that’s quite a lot to ask of someone who might only get 500k AP all year.

That makes more sense, I've never seen a camp in a rewards before but I didn't play this event last year.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Got some tips for grouping up for the achievements (Cyrodiil, Imperial City)?

For Cyrodiil, here's my advice for grouping.

1. Decide what type of group you want. Groups with Discord or Teamspeak are going to be more active and organized. You might not need Discord or TS to run with them, but I guarantee its much easier to run with them when you can listen to the calls. Pickup Groups without voice comms tend to be more disorganized and slower paced, but can be good if you really just want to stick with a group of people and come and go as you please. Pay attention to zone chat and see who is picking up people from zone. On PC/NA, groups will often use a text string to auto-invite from zone. If all else fails, go to a fight and follow the most organized group you can see.

2. Be prepared for group fighting. Bring siege weapons (or use what you get from the festival rewards), soul gems, potions, and food/drink. Most groups will focus on capturing/defending objectives, so you can't go wrong with regular ballistas, oils, and repair kits. Soul gems will let you help rez dead teammates.

3. Stick with your group. For the more organized groups, stick with your Crown, the group leader. That's the person calling the shots, so your best chance is to be right there with them. For less organized groups, try to stick together when you can. Especially if you are new, find strength in numbers. If you have a slow mount, equip Rapid Manuevers and do your best to keep up with the group.


For Imperial City, the only thing I remember is that its a nice thing to alternate who gets the chests you find in the city, so the 1st member gets the 1st chest, 2nd member gets the 2nd chest, etc.

Thanks for the guide buddeh ..

Honestly though I have been in and out of this game since it released but over the last month I've been having a ton of fun running an early build, even without really knowing what I'm doing ..

I will join and get killed a million times lol ..

Great post OP and also some good tid bits in this thread.

Just want to reiterate, dying is part of it, don't worry about it and have fun. And listen to crown! (your group leader)

BrokenGameMechanics wrote: »

First to emphasis what a number of others mentioned. Everyone dies in Cyrodiil, the good, the bad, the new, the experienced, all the time and in mass quantities. It's no big deal at all. Don't be self-conscious about i.t You'll get over it pretty quick. Just rez and get back into the battle. Also, rez your alliance and group people whenever possible.

One more tip expanding on what some briefly mentioned in above posts.

There will be groups / players that appear to not be playing the main objectives of the game. And you'll wonder what the heck they are doing? It will drive you crazy for awhile as initially you will assume that they MUST be doing something directly related to Cyrodiil and Alliance goals and you'll rack your brain trying to figure it out.

While the majority of groups / players will be focused on conquering or defending keeps and resources. Yet, you will see players that are doing nothing but running around rocks in circles, or a small group running up and down a hill next to an outpost, or a group that runs right by, ignoring the resource (farm, logging or mining resource) and rushes up into a tower keep and just ...sits ... there. And you'll wonder why? What they are doing is trying to "farm" you! They WANT you to run around the rock with them or rush into the keep, or attempt to root them off of the hill or out of the resource tower. They are just baiting you.

You have 2 options:

1. The best approach is to just ignore them. The primary goal is to take or defend resources or keeps and definitely stay focused on doing that when getting your feet wet in PVP. Most players will be doing that as well.
2. Or you can take the taunting and baiting and rush into the tower, or run after them in circles around the rocks.

If you take the bait, and we all do on occasion just to change things up, be aware these players and groups are doing specialized builds ideal for running around rocks or keeps in circles at high speed. Or the groups sitting at the top of a tower are strictly focused on heal spamming, spamming ultis and endless single skill spamming some finisher skill. i.e. the deck is stacked in their favor.

My main point here is regardless if you choose ignore them or choose to accept the challenge to root them out, is for you to be aware of what is going on and avoid trying to rack your brain to figure out what "brilliant" and subtle Cyrodiil strategy is happening that somehow relates to main objectives. It's not. These are "side" games in a way.

So much all of this. I made a point earlier about ultimate trains and this poster nailed what I did a not nearly as good of a job conveying.

If something looks like a trap ... it’s a trap.
If something doesn’t look like a trap ... it’s a trap.
If you’re confused in any way why someone is doing something illogical ... it’s a trap.
If you see one person standing in the middle of a meadow ... it’s a trap.

VaranisArano wrote: »

THEDKEXPERIENCE wrote: »

BrokenGameMechanics wrote: »

First to emphasis what a number of others mentioned. Everyone dies in Cyrodiil, the good, the bad, the new, the experienced, all the time and in mass quantities. It's no big deal at all. Don't be self-conscious about i.t You'll get over it pretty quick. Just rez and get back into the battle. Also, rez your alliance and group people whenever possible.

One more tip expanding on what some briefly mentioned in above posts.

There will be groups / players that appear to not be playing the main objectives of the game. And you'll wonder what the heck they are doing? It will drive you crazy for awhile as initially you will assume that they MUST be doing something directly related to Cyrodiil and Alliance goals and you'll rack your brain trying to figure it out.

While the majority of groups / players will be focused on conquering or defending keeps and resources. Yet, you will see players that are doing nothing but running around rocks in circles, or a small group running up and down a hill next to an outpost, or a group that runs right by, ignoring the resource (farm, logging or mining resource) and rushes up into a tower keep and just ...sits ... there. And you'll wonder why? What they are doing is trying to "farm" you! They WANT you to run around the rock with them or rush into the keep, or attempt to root them off of the hill or out of the resource tower. They are just baiting you.

You have 2 options:

1. The best approach is to just ignore them. The primary goal is to take or defend resources or keeps and definitely stay focused on doing that when getting your feet wet in PVP. Most players will be doing that as well.
2. Or you can take the taunting and baiting and rush into the tower, or run after them in circles around the rocks.

If you take the bait, and we all do on occasion just to change things up, be aware these players and groups are doing specialized builds ideal for running around rocks or keeps in circles at high speed. Or the groups sitting at the top of a tower are strictly focused on heal spamming, spamming ultis and endless single skill spamming some finisher skill. i.e. the deck is stacked in their favor.

My main point here is regardless if you choose ignore them or choose to accept the challenge to root them out, is for you to be aware of what is going on and avoid trying to rack your brain to figure out what "brilliant" and subtle Cyrodiil strategy is happening that somehow relates to main objectives. It's not. These are "side" games in a way.

So much all of this. I made a point earlier about ultimate trains and this poster nailed what I did a not nearly as good of a job conveying.

If something looks like a trap ... it’s a trap.
If something doesn’t look like a trap ... it’s a trap.
If you’re confused in any way why someone is doing something illogical ... it’s a trap.
If you see one person standing in the middle of a meadow ... it’s a trap.

Don't stop riding for that Columbine or psijic portal. Its a trap.

100%

Never farm for mats in Cyrodiil haha

NordSwordnBoard wrote: »

"Chum" is what you toss in the water to attract sharks, and sometimes to rile them up into a feeding frenzy.

That'd be an accurate description of experienced PVPers waiting for the incoming tide of new players and PVEers.

Look, we're really glad to see new faces and help new players and PVEers learn to experience and maybe even like PVP. But we cant deny that we smell blood in the water.

Thanks to everyone who hopped in with more pointers. Joy did a guide last year but I couldn't find it. Mostly I wanted to let new people know which siege to buy and what to do instead of what I see many new players do, which is light attacking from the walls or stand around looking lost without keeping their buffs up. (Keep your defensive buffs up, guys... probably won't save you from a ganker but may save you from a less focused attack.)

Forward camps... well it depends on how much AP someone earns and whether or not they are saving for something on the Golden. They can make or break a battle, but yea, wait to buy them when you have lots of AP. Cheap Flaming Oils give a lot of bang for the buck.