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Can someone give me a GOOD build with only 6 active abilities?

DamenAJ
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I can literally only manage 3 buttons on the front bar, 3 buttons on the back bar. The other two can slots are generally just buffs, I can't click 'em. I'm also really bad at animation cancelling weaving... You can try to give advice on how to do it better, but it'd be nice to do without.

Can anyone give me a build doing 25k+ DPS on a target dummy with these limitations?

What race, class, skills, passives, sets, mundus, CP?

I've been trying on the PTS, but I can rarely ever break 21k.

I PREFER stam, but am willing to look at magicka.
  • Sparr0w
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    Look for a heavy attack build if you're not the best at weaving. I'd go with a PetSorc one as 3 skill slots are redundant from Inner Light/Bound Aegis & your pet.

    You can also look at the stam DK or stam Sorc heavy attack builds.
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  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    Honestly, 21k is better then 90% of the people I meet in the group finder, so you are doing all right.
  • DamenAJ
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    Sparr0w wrote: »
    Look for a heavy attack build if you're not the best at weaving. I'd go with a PetSorc one as 3 skill slots are redundant from Inner Light/Bound Aegis & your pet.

    You can also look at the stam DK or stam Sorc heavy attack builds.

    I hate pets... So much... Always pulling and taunting crap I don't want them to... Standing in stupid places... /cough.

    Anyway. I'll google some heavy DK and sorc builds later... Hopefully they use 6 or less actives.
  • DamenAJ
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    Honestly, 21k is better then 90% of the people I meet in the group finder, so you are doing all right.

    Yeah.... But, if that's my absolute pinnacle of DPS, I'm not likely to do well in vet DLC and trial stuff. Which I'm kind of hoping to get into.... Eventually. For the achieves. Dyes... Skins... etc.
  • IxSTALKERxI
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    Spam light attack on werewolf next patch lel.
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  • HappyLittleTree
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    I did every vet trial on hm and just hitting 25k, vet trials are more about mechanics than dps race
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  • FakeFox
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    Magsorc gets along with six damage skills quite well. You would still wan't a shield on your backbar though.
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  • evoniee
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    spend some money for new mouse with 2 or 3 extra buttons.
    scroll up, scroll down, scroll button, mouse4, mouse 5, R.
    DPI button for potion optional.
    you can manuver and aim well on pvp.
    for reaching 20k dps on dummy just need a good weaving and average 5/5/2 sets
  • DamenAJ
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    evoniee wrote: »
    spend some money for new mouse with 2 or 3 extra buttons.
    scroll up, scroll down, scroll button, mouse4, mouse 5, R.
    DPI button for potion optional.
    you can manuver and aim well on pvp.
    for reaching 20k dps on dummy just need a good weaving and average 5/5/2 sets

    My mouse has a couple extra buttons, I literally use scroll for view, I can't coordinate one of the buttons, and the other button is roll-dodge.

    I've found a couple builds I can get 20k, it's just... getting passed that that's the issue... Also not good at weaving.
  • wozborne
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    DamenAJ wrote: »
    evoniee wrote: »
    spend some money for new mouse with 2 or 3 extra buttons.
    scroll up, scroll down, scroll button, mouse4, mouse 5, R.
    DPI button for potion optional.
    you can manuver and aim well on pvp.
    for reaching 20k dps on dummy just need a good weaving and average 5/5/2 sets

    My mouse has a couple extra buttons, I literally use scroll for view, I can't coordinate one of the buttons, and the other button is roll-dodge.

    I've found a couple builds I can get 20k, it's just... getting passed that that's the issue... Also not good at weaving.

    Weaving is literally just pushing R2 after every ability. How hard could that possibly get?
  • p00tx
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    You can link an XBox controller to your computer and play the game that way. If you get the Elite controller, it'll be even easier. I don't know how you guys play on a keyboard honestly. More power to you for having that kind of dexterity.
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  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    When in doubt go with a magic build and put a bunch of Mage Guild abilities on the slots you don’t use. You can get upwards of 60k magic on any class.

    After that it’s mostly just pressing force pulse.
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    Just play sorc with double pet. You can get by very well with 4 active skills (Liquid lighting, elemental Blockade, Daedric Prey, and Volatile Familiar), a shield (hardened ward) and a buff (power surge). Skill number 7 can be an oh crap heal from twilight matriarch, but you really shouldnt need to use it. Just let it do its thing.

    Front Bar: Volatile Familiar, Twilight Matriarch, Inner Light, Daedric Prey, Hardened Ward, Destro Ult (for the passives)
    Back Bar: Volatile Familiar, Twilight Matriarch, liquid Lighting, Elemental Blockade, Power surge, Storm Attro

    Not saying its best in slot by any stretch, but 30k is easily doable with this. Liquid Lighting>Elemental Blockade, Swap, heavy attack Familiar, Heavy attack Prey, repeat. Keep up power surge, use shields and heal if needed, If you can light weave LL and EB, all the better. You can clear VMA, any vet dungeon, and any trial save VCR+3 or VAS+2 with ease using a build like this.

    Gear, dont over think it. Necro, julianos, any reasonable monster set. All magic, all spell damage, infused lighting staffs, etc.
  • NBrookus
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    DamenAJ wrote: »
    I can literally only manage 3 buttons on the front bar, 3 buttons on the back bar. The other two can slots are generally just buffs, I can't click 'em. I'm also really bad at animation cancelling weaving... You can try to give advice on how to do it better, but it'd be nice to do without.

    Can anyone give me a build doing 25k+ DPS on a target dummy with these limitations?

    What race, class, skills, passives, sets, mundus, CP?

    I've been trying on the PTS, but I can rarely ever break 21k.

    I PREFER stam, but am willing to look at magicka.

    Have you considered footpedals? You can map them to any keys.

    Opposite hand, but I can't manage mouse buttons and used to use keyboard for clicking but it's hard to do it all with one hand; footpedals let me delegate tasks to my feet.

    What I use:
    https://www.gamingmouse.com/gaming/fragpedal/quad/
  • Runefang
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    Easy Magsorc no-pet build:

    Gear:
    Head: Heavy Infused Zaan's with Magicka enchant*
    Should: Medium Divines Zaan's with Magicka enchant*
    Waist: Divines Siroria with Magicka enchant
    Feet: Divines Siroria with Magicka enchant
    Hands: Divines Siroria with Magicka enchant
    Legs: Infused Siroria with Magicka enchant
    Chest: Infused Siroria with Magicka enchant
    Neck: Arcane Queen's Elegance with Spell Damage enchant
    Ring 1: Arcane Queen's Elegance with Spell Damage enchant
    Ring 2: Arcane Queen's Elegance with Spell Damage enchant

    Front Bar: Queen's Elegance Inferno with Infused Fire enchant
    Back Bar: vMA Inferno with Infused Spell Damage enchant (run another Queen's Elegance if you don't have one)

    *Run Skoria or Ilambris if you need to be ranged

    Skills:
    Bar 1: Liquid Lightning, Hardened Ward, Structured Entropy, Bound Aegis, Inner Light, Meteor
    Bar 2: Elemental Blockade, Curse, Channeled Acceleration, Bound Aegis, Inner Light, Greater Storm Atronach

    Rotation:
    LA > Blockade > LA > Curse > Bar Swap
    LA > Liquid Lightning > LA > LA > LA > LA > LA > Bar Swap
    Repeat

    Race: Dunmer
    Mundus: Lover
    CP: Can't remember sorry :/ A good mix of elemental expert, elf born, staff expert and master-at-arms. A few points into thaum.

    Channeled acceleration is re-cast whenever it drops off. Greater Storm Atro is the ultimate you need to use.

    If you want to avoid using expensive pots then drop channeled acceleration for Power Surge.

    I can hit 32k dps with this on the dummy. If you want to hit harder swap Structured Entropy with Elemental Weapon or Force Pulse and use it a few times during the LA spam.
  • DamenAJ
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    wozborne wrote: »
    DamenAJ wrote: »
    evoniee wrote: »
    spend some money for new mouse with 2 or 3 extra buttons.
    scroll up, scroll down, scroll button, mouse4, mouse 5, R.
    DPI button for potion optional.
    you can manuver and aim well on pvp.
    for reaching 20k dps on dummy just need a good weaving and average 5/5/2 sets

    My mouse has a couple extra buttons, I literally use scroll for view, I can't coordinate one of the buttons, and the other button is roll-dodge.

    I've found a couple builds I can get 20k, it's just... getting passed that that's the issue... Also not good at weaving.

    Weaving is literally just pushing R2 after every ability. How hard could that possibly get?

    I ALWAYS try to click my light attack between each ability, yet my light attacks are always super low on my combat metrics. Apparently it's a timing thing. Every time I try to do timing like I've seen in videos, it always lowers my DPS. I'm not good at it.
  • DamenAJ
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    Runefang wrote: »
    Easy Magsorc no-pet build:

    Gear:
    Head: Heavy Infused Zaan's with Magicka enchant*
    Should: Medium Divines Zaan's with Magicka enchant*
    Waist: Divines Siroria with Magicka enchant
    Feet: Divines Siroria with Magicka enchant
    Hands: Divines Siroria with Magicka enchant
    Legs: Infused Siroria with Magicka enchant
    Chest: Infused Siroria with Magicka enchant
    Neck: Arcane Queen's Elegance with Spell Damage enchant
    Ring 1: Arcane Queen's Elegance with Spell Damage enchant
    Ring 2: Arcane Queen's Elegance with Spell Damage enchant

    Front Bar: Queen's Elegance Inferno with Infused Fire enchant
    Back Bar: vMA Inferno with Infused Spell Damage enchant (run another Queen's Elegance if you don't have one)

    *Run Skoria or Ilambris if you need to be ranged

    Skills:
    Bar 1: Liquid Lightning, Hardened Ward, Structured Entropy, Bound Aegis, Inner Light, Meteor
    Bar 2: Elemental Blockade, Curse, Channeled Acceleration, Bound Aegis, Inner Light, Greater Storm Atronach

    Rotation:
    LA > Blockade > LA > Curse > Bar Swap
    LA > Liquid Lightning > LA > LA > LA > LA > LA > Bar Swap
    Repeat

    Race: Dunmer
    Mundus: Lover
    CP: Can't remember sorry :/ A good mix of elemental expert, elf born, staff expert and master-at-arms. A few points into thaum.

    Channeled acceleration is re-cast whenever it drops off. Greater Storm Atro is the ultimate you need to use.

    If you want to avoid using expensive pots then drop channeled acceleration for Power Surge.

    I can hit 32k dps with this on the dummy. If you want to hit harder swap Structured Entropy with Elemental Weapon or Force Pulse and use it a few times during the LA spam.

    Thank you, I have a magicka sorcerer training riding skill, I this will probably be great for him.
  • DamenAJ
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    NBrookus wrote: »
    DamenAJ wrote: »
    I can literally only manage 3 buttons on the front bar, 3 buttons on the back bar. The other two can slots are generally just buffs, I can't click 'em. I'm also really bad at animation cancelling weaving... You can try to give advice on how to do it better, but it'd be nice to do without.

    Can anyone give me a build doing 25k+ DPS on a target dummy with these limitations?

    What race, class, skills, passives, sets, mundus, CP?

    I've been trying on the PTS, but I can rarely ever break 21k.

    I PREFER stam, but am willing to look at magicka.

    Have you considered footpedals? You can map them to any keys.

    Opposite hand, but I can't manage mouse buttons and used to use keyboard for clicking but it's hard to do it all with one hand; footpedals let me delegate tasks to my feet.

    What I use:
    https://www.gamingmouse.com/gaming/fragpedal/quad/

    Those seem fascinating, but I play on a laptop, and have 4 pets. Wires and such do not stay put well. But it does seem like something to consider if I switch to a desktop eventually.
  • Baz
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    Was doing some test, but I think this is what you look for

    Hawk_Eye_bug.jpg

    Crushing Weapon - Merciless Resolve - Endless Hail - Caltrops - Poison Injection.
    The parse was without ultimate also.

    vAA : 150.350 WS StamBlade
    vSO : 171.041 CwC StamSorc
    vHRC : 155.895 DB Tank
    vMoL : 159.672 CwC Stamplar
    vHoF : 206.667 MkM StamNB
    vAS : 111.272 MkM Magplar
    vCR : 128.397 WS MagSorc
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  • DamenAJ
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    Baz wrote: »
    Was doing some test, but I think this is what you look for

    Hawk_Eye_bug.jpg

    Crushing Weapon - Merciless Resolve - Endless Hail - Caltrops - Poison Injection.
    The parse was without ultimate also.

    Looks good! Sets besides relequen? Also, what weapons on the front bar?(+enchants/traits)

    CP? (Blue is the main I care about)

    Also what are the filler skills? (I assume they buff, like the fighters guild ones or something)
  • Baz
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    This is a one bar parse using vMA Bow.
    I just switch on my main bar to shot my assassin's scourge, that's it.

    Was testing which skill is the best at range for vAA Storm Atro. So CPs are not optimized for this kind of build

    If I remember correctly, was running 5 Yokeda (DW) + 5 Relequen + 2 Kragh (but at range stormfist is better)
    Edited by Baz on July 12, 2018 5:16AM
    vAA : 150.350 WS StamBlade
    vSO : 171.041 CwC StamSorc
    vHRC : 155.895 DB Tank
    vMoL : 159.672 CwC Stamplar
    vHoF : 206.667 MkM StamNB
    vAS : 111.272 MkM Magplar
    vCR : 128.397 WS MagSorc
    Mostly retired from PvE ESO
  • Priyasekarssk
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    DamenAJ wrote: »
    I can literally only manage 3 buttons on the front bar, 3 buttons on the back bar. The other two can slots are generally just buffs, I can't click 'em. I'm also really bad at animation cancelling weaving... You can try to give advice on how to do it better, but it'd be nice to do without.

    Can anyone give me a build doing 25k+ DPS on a target dummy with these limitations?

    What race, class, skills, passives, sets, mundus, CP?

    I've been trying on the PTS, but I can rarely ever break 21k.

    I PREFER stam, but am willing to look at magicka.

    Why you need 6 ?

    Magicka DK. Root + Flame lash, flame lash ........................................................................................................................................ until target dies. Flame lash heals you , huge ton of damage , CC .. basically it does every thing. Bother to use ultimate / heal/armor if you wish. No sustain issues.

    Another one, templars: - No skill required. CC+Puncturing sweep.....................................................until target dies. It does every thing for you . It heals , deals huge ton of damage with a CC/snares. Dont ever bother to heal. No sustain issues. Just purify, you can kill all bosses solo.

    You want only 1 button. Convert into werewolf. Light attack entire day with a healing buff active,
    No one cares . Enjoy the cheese
    Edited by Priyasekarssk on July 16, 2018 7:08PM
  • MashmalloMan
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    Stam sorc. Even in end game it is the simplest rotation and everyone knows this. They are forced to use 8 skill slots instead of 10 because bound armaments takes up the front/back bar slot(dont need it back bar but it's a pretty big dmg loss). Provides 8% max stam, 11% light attack dmg, 20% stam/hp recovery and 2% wep dmg.

    For solo you just need to cast everything once and work around endless hail as your indicator to start your rotation again. Obviously light attack between every skill and eventually you will learn to only cast hurricane based on its 15sec duration instead of every 11-12 seconds.

    Front: Rending Slash (Single Target DoT, 9 SEC) | Rearming Trap (Single Target DoT, 12 SEC) Hurricane (Self Buff 5-9m AoE DoT, 15 SEC) | Shrouded Daggers(Cleave AoE) or Crushing Weapon(Single Target) Spammable

    Back: Endless Hail (AoE DoT 5m, 10 SEC 1-2 SEC DELAY) | Razor Caltrops (AoE DoT 8m, 12 SEC) | Poison Injection (Single Target DoT, 10 SEC) | Crit Surge (Self Buff Major Brutality and Healing of 3k(can crit) with a 1sec cd on ANY Crit dmg done, 33 SEC)

    Both Bars: Bound Armaments (8% max stam, 11% light attack dmg, 20% stam/hp recovery and 2% wep dmg)

    Ultimates: Use Flawless Dawnbreaker front bar for more wep dmg and some AoE DMG | Back bar is a flex spot. Sometimes I like double slotting Flawless Dawnbreaker, right now I really like using the greater storm atro. Gives nice dps for 28seconds. 2% wep dmg back bar is not a huge difference from 8%. Provides group utility with 25% major berserk synergy and can proc the implosion execute passive reliably with such a long duration and constant dmg ticks. Does AoE dmg on impact and provides 8% MAX hp when it's out for the 28seconds.

    This build is generally good for any content with good dps. Good aoe dmg and single target and because of crit surge, good sustainable self healing. The only thing you should change in trials is to remove crit surge and use major brutality pots, then slot rearming trap back bar if you need deadly cloak front bar for dmg mitigation.

    I highlighted all the duration timers so you could see how simple the rotation is.


    My rotation would look like this(Always cast Crit surge/Hurricane first) but this is mid combat: Endless Hail -> Caltrops -> (Crit surge every second rotation) -> Poison injection -> BAR SWAP -> Hurricane (if expired or every rotation first till you get use to the 15sec timer) -> Rearming Trap -> Rending Slash -> Spammable (until 0-1sec remaining on endless hail) -> BAR SWAP

    Light attack between every skill. You need at least 300-500 extra stam recovery invested to sustain a light attack rotation on stam sorc without the vicous ophidian set. I try to avoid heavy attacks as much as possible because we really benefit from light attacks with Bound Armaments passives buffing our max stam and light atk dmg.

    This class doesn't have a lot of self buffs that other classes have and I can pull 36k dps with crit surge in my rotation using Vicious Ophidian | Advancing Yokeda | Kragh | VMA Bow (NO dmg hp pots on my bow) or
    40k dps using the sets I want on PTS Arms of Relequen | Veiled Inheritance | Storm fist | VMA Bow (NO dmg hp pots still)

    Self buffs missing that are available in a trial that boost our dmg. Minor berserk for 8% dmg, minor brutality for 5% weapon dmg, major/minor fracture, minor savagery for 3% crit. Major Savagery for 10% crit can be gained through weapon power pots.
    Edited by MashmalloMan on July 16, 2018 9:21PM
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