Why can't STEAM users get eso from website??

UglyBunnyCu · July 2018

Bought game from steam, logged in here and it shows i own game, but no option to install. After summerset update i downloaded game and on launcher i no longer could play eso due to patch requiring more space which i can't afford and made post about it here where some people claim their game size is much smaller. Steam version is known to have issues so if they're not gonna deal with that why not just allow us to download game from website? You want me to buy your game twice? Is that it? I haven't been able to play eso for months. Steam page says 85gb, i have 95gb what is this bs.

Trinity_Is_My_Name · July 2018

You definitely need a larger hard drive. Or, you can get a second drive such as a 256 gig SSD and install ESO to it through Steam. All my Steam games are installed on a separate SSD.

UglyBunnyCu · July 2018

Trinity_Is_My_Name wrote: »

You definitely need a larger hard drive.

Maybe i do, but i was able to play fine before the update, and like i said some people say they require less with website version, and steam still says 85 gb

Tandor · July 2018

If you buy from Steam then you install it on Steam, and can only run it on Steam (unless you linked it to an existing ZOS account before a certain date in, I believe, 2016). I appreciate there have been login problems with Steam but I'm afraid that's always the risk when you opt for third party involvement - console users frequently get service interruptions from Xbox and Sony. Where a third party contract is involved it's most unlikely that the contract permits ZOS to allow players to switch to them from the third party.

As for the size, 85Gb is probably what you need free for the actual download and installation, although once it's fully installed it will take up rather less as some of the download will have been compacted or tidied up etc. Windows also requires a certain amount of free space so is unlikely to allow you to install 85GB if you only have 95Gb free. The game will, of course, take more space after Summerset because of the additional content so as you were on the borderline beforehand it's not surprising you don't have enough space now. You can either upgrade or uninstall something to clear the additional space that you need.

Houshiki · July 2018

From what I understand, if you buy the game on steam you'll only be able to download the launcher from steam and not at all from the main website. The opposite if you buy the game from the main website. The two launchers are essentially the same, but the one downloaded from steam requires steam to work. This doesn't mean your account is hardcoded to only being able to use one or the other, just from where you can download the launcher from. That said, you CAN get around this by buying another copy of the game from the main website.

UglyBunnyCu · July 2018

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Tandor wrote: »

If you buy from Steam then you install it on Steam, and can only run it on Steam (unless you linked it to an existing ZOS account before a certain date in, I believe, 2016). I appreciate there have been login problems with Steam but I'm afraid that's always the risk when you opt for third party involvement - console users frequently get service interruptions from Xbox and Sony. Where a third party contract is involved it's most unlikely that the contract permits ZOS to allow players to switch to them from the third party.

As for the size, 85Gb is probably what you need free for the actual download and installation, although once it's fully installed it will take up rather less as some of the download will have been compacted or tidied up etc. Windows also requires a certain amount of free space so is unlikely to allow you to install 85GB if you only have 95Gb free.

then why in the oblivion was i able to install 85 gb when i had 95 gb before release of summerset*?

Tandor · July 2018

UglyBunnyCu wrote: »

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Tandor wrote: »

If you buy from Steam then you install it on Steam, and can only run it on Steam (unless you linked it to an existing ZOS account before a certain date in, I believe, 2016). I appreciate there have been login problems with Steam but I'm afraid that's always the risk when you opt for third party involvement - console users frequently get service interruptions from Xbox and Sony. Where a third party contract is involved it's most unlikely that the contract permits ZOS to allow players to switch to them from the third party.

As for the size, 85Gb is probably what you need free for the actual download and installation, although once it's fully installed it will take up rather less as some of the download will have been compacted or tidied up etc. Windows also requires a certain amount of free space so is unlikely to allow you to install 85GB if you only have 95Gb free.

then why in the oblivion was i able to install 85 gb when i had 95 gb before update?

Perhaps I misunderstood your point, or the part your figures played in it. The fact is, however, that if you bought the game through Steam then you'll need to install and run it through Steam, and as I understand it you had enough space free to do that until the additional content was added with Summerset. It's no good blaming the game if you're unable to run it because your hard drive is right on the borderline for space requirements. Upgrade, or uninstall something to clear up more space, those seem to be your options.

UglyBunnyCu · July 2018

Tandor wrote: »

UglyBunnyCu wrote: »

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Tandor wrote: »

If you buy from Steam then you install it on Steam, and can only run it on Steam (unless you linked it to an existing ZOS account before a certain date in, I believe, 2016). I appreciate there have been login problems with Steam but I'm afraid that's always the risk when you opt for third party involvement - console users frequently get service interruptions from Xbox and Sony. Where a third party contract is involved it's most unlikely that the contract permits ZOS to allow players to switch to them from the third party.

As for the size, 85Gb is probably what you need free for the actual download and installation, although once it's fully installed it will take up rather less as some of the download will have been compacted or tidied up etc. Windows also requires a certain amount of free space so is unlikely to allow you to install 85GB if you only have 95Gb free.

then why in the oblivion was i able to install 85 gb when i had 95 gb before update?

Perhaps I misunderstood your point, or the part your figures played in it. The fact is, however, that if you bought the game through Steam then you'll need to install and run it through Steam, and as I understand it you had enough space free to do that until the additional content was added with Summerset. It's no good blaming the game if you're unable to run it because your hard drive is right on the borderline for space requirements. Upgrade, or uninstall something to clear up more space, those seem to be your options.

People said website version requires less, yes it is good to blame game(steam version) because somethings not right, or maybe i'm wrong have you bought game from here and how big is it for you? I want answers, if install and game size are exactly identical with steam version and website version then i will shut up and accept my fate that i need more space.

steam page still says 85 gb is required as always, i am able to install game fine, but when in launcher patch wont finish*

UglyBunnyCu · July 2018

ignore this

Tandor · July 2018

UglyBunnyCu wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

UglyBunnyCu wrote: »

j

Tandor wrote: »

If you buy from Steam then you install it on Steam, and can only run it on Steam (unless you linked it to an existing ZOS account before a certain date in, I believe, 2016). I appreciate there have been login problems with Steam but I'm afraid that's always the risk when you opt for third party involvement - console users frequently get service interruptions from Xbox and Sony. Where a third party contract is involved it's most unlikely that the contract permits ZOS to allow players to switch to them from the third party.

As for the size, 85Gb is probably what you need free for the actual download and installation, although once it's fully installed it will take up rather less as some of the download will have been compacted or tidied up etc. Windows also requires a certain amount of free space so is unlikely to allow you to install 85GB if you only have 95Gb free.

then why in the oblivion was i able to install 85 gb when i had 95 gb before update?

Perhaps I misunderstood your point, or the part your figures played in it. The fact is, however, that if you bought the game through Steam then you'll need to install and run it through Steam, and as I understand it you had enough space free to do that until the additional content was added with Summerset. It's no good blaming the game if you're unable to run it because your hard drive is right on the borderline for space requirements. Upgrade, or uninstall something to clear up more space, those seem to be your options.

People said website version requires less, yes it is good to blame game(steam version) because somethings not right, or maybe i'm wrong have you bought game from here and how big is it for you? I want answers, if install and game size are exactly identical with steam version and website version then i will shut up and accept my fate that i need more space.

steam page still says 85 gb is required as always, i am able to install game fine, but when in launcher patch wont finish*

I just checked Steam and the ESO website and they both say 85GB required. My website installation is 67.5GB but would have required quite a bit more than that for the download and installation, 85GB sounds about right. I don't have any additional stuff installed such as addons or voice chat software, just the game client. I suspect the patcher is failing on you because it wants to download more than it will finish up as and you don't have enough space for that and the free space that Windows requires (about 20GB for either Windows 7, 8.1 or 10). It's also possible that Steam imposes minimum free space requirements, I don't know about that.

UglyBunnyCu · July 2018

Tandor wrote: »

UglyBunnyCu wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

UglyBunnyCu wrote: »

j

Tandor wrote: »

If you buy from Steam then you install it on Steam, and can only run it on Steam (unless you linked it to an existing ZOS account before a certain date in, I believe, 2016). I appreciate there have been login problems with Steam but I'm afraid that's always the risk when you opt for third party involvement - console users frequently get service interruptions from Xbox and Sony. Where a third party contract is involved it's most unlikely that the contract permits ZOS to allow players to switch to them from the third party.

As for the size, 85Gb is probably what you need free for the actual download and installation, although once it's fully installed it will take up rather less as some of the download will have been compacted or tidied up etc. Windows also requires a certain amount of free space so is unlikely to allow you to install 85GB if you only have 95Gb free.

then why in the oblivion was i able to install 85 gb when i had 95 gb before update?

Perhaps I misunderstood your point, or the part your figures played in it. The fact is, however, that if you bought the game through Steam then you'll need to install and run it through Steam, and as I understand it you had enough space free to do that until the additional content was added with Summerset. It's no good blaming the game if you're unable to run it because your hard drive is right on the borderline for space requirements. Upgrade, or uninstall something to clear up more space, those seem to be your options.

People said website version requires less, yes it is good to blame game(steam version) because somethings not right, or maybe i'm wrong have you bought game from here and how big is it for you? I want answers, if install and game size are exactly identical with steam version and website version then i will shut up and accept my fate that i need more space.

steam page still says 85 gb is required as always, i am able to install game fine, but when in launcher patch wont finish*

I just checked Steam and the ESO website and they both say 85GB required. My website installation is 67.5GB but would have required quite a bit more than that for the download and installation, 85GB sounds about right. I don't have any additional stuff installed such as addons or voice chat software, just the game client. I suspect the patcher is failing on you because it wants to download more than it will finish up as and you don't have enough space for that and the free space that Windows requires (about 20GB for either Windows 7, 8.1 or 10). It's also possible that Steam imposes minimum free space requirements, I don't know about that.

alright, thank you

UglyBunnyCu · July 2018

you kno wut, done with this game, most of quests are dull, pvp is terrible, everything is overpriced, class system, enemy Ai is ***, scammed for over 99 000 gold for item i thought i could use when it didn't say anything about being outdated and my ticket never received response, and now this. I'm just gonna wait for elder scrolls 6, bb everyone, peace

AlienatedGoat · July 2018

UglyBunnyCu wrote: »

you kno wut, done with this game, most of quests are dull, pvp is terrible, everything is overpriced, class system, enemy Ai is ***, scammed for over 99 000 gold for item i thought i could use when it didn't say anything about being outdated and my ticket never received response, and now this. I'm just gonna wait for elder scrolls 6, bb everyone, peace

Come to forums for advice to get the game playable.

Ignore advice and proceed to bash the game you haven't played.

UglyBunnyCu · July 2018

Phage wrote: »

UglyBunnyCu wrote: »

you kno wut, done with this game, most of quests are dull, pvp is terrible, everything is overpriced, class system, enemy Ai is ***, scammed for over 99 000 gold for item i thought i could use when it didn't say anything about being outdated and my ticket never received response, and now this. I'm just gonna wait for elder scrolls 6, bb everyone, peace

Come to forums for advice to get the game playable.

Ignore advice and proceed to bash the game you haven't played.

What advice did i ignore? And what do you mean, i have played this game?

Altaire · July 2018

Ya got a STEAMING load, take the dump and walk away.

Merlin13KAGL · July 2018

It's not Steam, it's the way they (ZoS) do their downloader.

If effectively takes 2x the required disk space initially. It downloads everything in its entirety, then it reserves the space for the actual install, then it nukes the original download.

Why they don't have the client effectively install as it goes is beyond me. You'd still need more than the final game space required, but far less than double the amount.

A 'repair' does things in pieces, the main installer should too.

That aside, drives are cheap, and if you're down to < 160 Gb , you really should consider upgrading, or ESO won't be the only issue you eventually run into.

Raraaku · July 2018

I believe what you are referring to is the steam version apparently requires you to download the different language VO libraries (voice over) on at least the initial download, which does take up a somewhat fair amount of hard drive disk space. Also, if I'm remembering correctly, hard drives might have a space limit slightly lower than the advertised space. It's like lumber, 2x4 isn't really 2x4 inches, it's 1.5x3.5 inches, the size refers to the rough cut.

For instance my laptop has a 1TB mechanical hard drive, yet the total free space is closer to 980-985 GB when calculated the space left and the data stored.

Tito86 · July 2018

UglyBunnyCu wrote: »

you kno wut, done with this game, most of quests are dull, pvp is terrible, everything is overpriced, class system, enemy Ai is ***, scammed for over 99 000 gold for item i thought i could use when it didn't say anything about being outdated and my ticket never received response, and now this. I'm just gonna wait for elder scrolls 6, bb everyone, peace

Can I have your stuff?

Merlin13KAGL · July 2018

Raraaku wrote: »

I believe what you are referring to is the steam version apparently requires you to download the different language VO libraries (voice over) on at least the initial download, which does take up a somewhat fair amount of hard drive disk space. Also, if I'm remembering correctly, hard drives might have a space limit slightly lower than the advertised space. It's like lumber, 2x4 isn't really 2x4 inches, it's 1.5x3.5 inches, the size refers to the rough cut.

For instance my laptop has a 1TB mechanical hard drive, yet the total free space is closer to 980-985 GB when calculated the space left and the data stored.

Steam requires nothing any differnt than the regular install does. In fact, if you check your regular install, you'll find Steam libraries included by default.

You can start the download (to create the folders), pause it, then create a symbolic link to an existing ESO install and the game will work just fine. Nothing added, nothing taken away, and client updates are the same either way.

HD's are always given in terms of raw space, unformatted, and in terms of bytes. On an HD, 1,000,000,000 bytes is 1 Gigabyte (1000^3).

Formatted, it's less because it's in terms of 1 GB = 1024 MB = 1024 * 1024 KB = 1024 * 1024 * 1024 bytes. (1024^3)

UglyBunnyCu · July 2018

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

It's not Steam, it's the way they (ZoS) do their downloader.

If effectively takes 2x the required disk space initially. It downloads everything in its entirety, then it reserves the space for the actual install, then it nukes the original download.

Why they don't have the client effectively install as it goes is beyond me. You'd still need more than the final game space required, but far less than double the amount.

A 'repair' does things in pieces, the main installer should too.

That aside, drives are cheap, and if you're down to < 160 Gb , you really should consider upgrading, or ESO won't be the only issue you eventually run into.

good info thank you

DanteYoda · July 2018

I don't understand why steam customer cannot just use the retail.. Its not like they didn't pay what everyone else paid..

Sovjet · July 2018

New update means mote content means more GB. It's normal

With 95 GB you were eventually gonna run out.

UglyBunnyCu · July 2018

UglyBunnyCu wrote: »

Phage wrote: »

UglyBunnyCu wrote: »

you kno wut, done with this game, most of quests are dull, pvp is terrible, everything is overpriced, class system, enemy Ai is ***, scammed for over 99 000 gold for item i thought i could use when it didn't say anything about being outdated and my ticket never received response, and now this. I'm just gonna wait for elder scrolls 6, bb everyone, peace

Come to forums for advice to get the game playable.

Ignore advice and proceed to bash the game you haven't played.

What advice did i ignore? And what do you mean, i have played this game?

why people agree with this? is it because there's meme?