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NB, is anyone aware?

Micah_Bayer
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The amount of dmg they can nullify when dark cloak will work next patch. Dark cloak 8%
Shadow image 15%
That is 23% dmg right off the back..And if you get real greedy you can add pirate skelly and effectively get 56% dmg reduction without adding armour resistances in the equation. And skelly has great uptime. Imagine that with heavy armour..you would he unkillable and still have like 4k weapon dmg.
Edited by Micah_Bayer on July 16, 2018 5:32AM
  • Kadoin
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    Don't worry! ZOS knows what they are doing! (now where did I put my NBs, gotta make sure I get my undaunted maxed before the next patch haha!)
  • Skillasaurus88
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    Damage mitigation is multiplicative, not additive.

    Just be glad you werent around when mitigation from Pirate Skeleton was effecting shields!
    I main a MagSorc DPS. Over 2500 hours played and counting! Feel free to ask me anything. -Rick
  • Micah_Bayer
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    Damage mitigation is multiplicative, not additive.

    Just be glad you werent around when mitigation from Pirate Skeleton was effecting shields!

    I've been here since beta
  • PlagueSD
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    The amount of dmg they can nullify when dark cloak will work next patch. Dark cloak 8%
    Shadow image 15%
    That is 23% dmg right off the back..And if you get real greedy you can add pirate skelly and effectively get 56% dmg reduction without adding armour resistances in the equation. And skelly has great uptime. Imagine that with heavy armour..you would he unkillable and still have like 4k weapon dmg.

    You're acting like this will be a constant 100% uptime buff. Well, it won't. 8% from dark cloak is only active when you use it. You'll need to recast every 3 seconds to maintain that. The shadow image only affects ONE character. Only they will be doing 15% less damage to you. It's not a straight damage reduction like cloak. Everyone else attacking you will be doing full damage.
  • chaz
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    Good, when I get back to gaming again my NB will love the tweeks I'm going to make. That is If I can get off my Tank.

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  • Micah_Bayer
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    PlagueSD wrote: »
    The amount of dmg they can nullify when dark cloak will work next patch. Dark cloak 8%
    Shadow image 15%
    That is 23% dmg right off the back..And if you get real greedy you can add pirate skelly and effectively get 56% dmg reduction without adding armour resistances in the equation. And skelly has great uptime. Imagine that with heavy armour..you would he unkillable and still have like 4k weapon dmg.

    You're acting like this will be a constant 100% uptime buff. Well, it won't. 8% from dark cloak is only active when you use it. You'll need to recast every 3 seconds to maintain that. The shadow image only affects ONE character. Only they will be doing 15% less damage to you. It's not a straight damage reduction like cloak. Everyone else attacking you will be doing full damage.

    Probably up 80% of the time. And dark cloak you can time it for incoming bursts you see. I mean skilled players can see a burst incoming so how is it not a high uptime?
  • Malacthulhu
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    Have you tried playing a nightblade instead of a sorc?
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  • Micah_Bayer
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    Have you tried playing a nightblade instead of a sorc?

    I have a stam sorc, Mag NB and stam NB. What are you implying?
  • Micah_Bayer
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    Have you tried playing a nightblade instead of a sorc?

    I'm just saying stam NB is OP lol
  • chaz
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    Have you tried playing a nightblade instead of a sorc?

    I'm just saying stam NB is OP lol

    Some would say the same for Sorcs or DK's. Does this come from playing PvE or are you PvP'ng and someone rekt you or a friend as a NB? Because if that's the case, make a NB and kill them back LOL.
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  • Micah_Bayer
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    chaz wrote: »
    Have you tried playing a nightblade instead of a sorc?

    I'm just saying stam NB is OP lol

    Some would say the same for Sorcs or DK's. Does this come from playing PvE or are you PvP'ng and someone rekt you or a friend as a NB? Because if that's the case, make a NB and kill them back LOL.

    This is for pvp. And no a NB mentioned this to me.
  • Micah_Bayer
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    chaz wrote: »
    Have you tried playing a nightblade instead of a sorc?

    I'm just saying stam NB is OP lol

    Some would say the same for Sorcs or DK's. Does this come from playing PvE or are you PvP'ng and someone rekt you or a friend as a NB? Because if that's the case, make a NB and kill them back LOL.

    This is for pvp. And no a NB mentioned this to me.

    And proceeded to say it was broken
  • Avnr
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    Have you tried playing a nightblade instead of a sorc?

    Funny but I gave up on all my stam classes sines the pvp is mostly range dps and snares.
    Lat days I run with RC sorc , super fun to see everything melt(500k ap solo last 2 days)
    Super tank, Super burst , Super cc , Super panic skill streak.... no need for anything else
  • Micah_Bayer
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    Avnr wrote: »
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    Have you tried playing a nightblade instead of a sorc?

    Funny but I gave up on all my stam classes sines the pvp is mostly range dps and snares.
    Lat days I run with RC sorc , super fun to see everything melt(500k ap solo last 2 days)
    Super tank, Super burst , Super cc , Super panic skill streak.... no need for anything else

    Sorc is a good pug killer for sure. The best class for easy pug kills. But the skill gap can only go so high with a predictable burst and against good players they melt. Now let's get back onto the topic. Mitigation like this is insane.
  • chaz
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    Haha, a NB mentioned it to you, and yet you're the one posting on the issue by use of second hand experience. Do you have a NB that can do that or just what your friend told you. Because I could say that I have a NB that does 150K dps.
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  • Micah_Bayer
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    chaz wrote: »
    Haha, a NB mentioned it to you, and yet you're the one posting on the issue by use of second hand experience. Do you have a NB that can do that or just what your friend told you. Because I could say that I have a NB that does 150K dps.

    You dont have to be a genius to know you can do it. Slot a 2 piece set and put two skills on your bar. That's not that hard to understand.
  • Malacthulhu
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    Avnr wrote: »
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    Have you tried playing a nightblade instead of a sorc?

    Funny but I gave up on all my stam classes sines the pvp is mostly range dps and snares.
    Lat days I run with RC sorc , super fun to see everything melt(500k ap solo last 2 days)
    Super tank, Super burst , Super cc , Super panic skill streak.... no need for anything else

    Well you would not be able to do that bs on my nb bc the first thing I like to do when I am upagainst a sorc especially if it is like 3 of them is pop my shade out then I will proceed to spam cloak while loling as I take sissy sorc damage then fear you all and mitigate 100% damage till they break free and hopefully at that point I will have run my resources dry so I can take a well deserved rest after some hardcore op nb pvping.
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  • Micah_Bayer
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    Avnr wrote: »
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    Have you tried playing a nightblade instead of a sorc?

    Funny but I gave up on all my stam classes sines the pvp is mostly range dps and snares.
    Lat days I run with RC sorc , super fun to see everything melt(500k ap solo last 2 days)
    Super tank, Super burst , Super cc , Super panic skill streak.... no need for anything else

    Well you would not be able to do that bs on my nb bc the first thing I like to do when I am upagainst a sorc especially if it is like 3 of them is pop my shade out then I will proceed to spam cloak while loling as I take sissy sorc damage then fear you all and mitigate 100% damage till they break free and hopefully at that point I will have run my resources dry so I can take a well deserved rest after some hardcore op nb pvping.

    Pretty accurate
  • Malacthulhu
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    Avnr wrote: »
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    Have you tried playing a nightblade instead of a sorc?

    Funny but I gave up on all my stam classes sines the pvp is mostly range dps and snares.
    Lat days I run with RC sorc , super fun to see everything melt(500k ap solo last 2 days)
    Super tank, Super burst , Super cc , Super panic skill streak.... no need for anything else

    Well you would not be able to do that bs on my nb bc the first thing I like to do when I am upagainst a sorc especially if it is like 3 of them is pop my shade out then I will proceed to spam cloak while loling as I take sissy sorc damage then fear you all and mitigate 100% damage till they break free and hopefully at that point I will have run my resources dry so I can take a well deserved rest after some hardcore op nb pvping.

    Pretty accurate

    No worries man if they nerf it I will class change to a nord so I can stay invincible.
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  • Micah_Bayer
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    Avnr wrote: »
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    Have you tried playing a nightblade instead of a sorc?

    Funny but I gave up on all my stam classes sines the pvp is mostly range dps and snares.
    Lat days I run with RC sorc , super fun to see everything melt(500k ap solo last 2 days)
    Super tank, Super burst , Super cc , Super panic skill streak.... no need for anything else

    Well you would not be able to do that bs on my nb bc the first thing I like to do when I am upagainst a sorc especially if it is like 3 of them is pop my shade out then I will proceed to spam cloak while loling as I take sissy sorc damage then fear you all and mitigate 100% damage till they break free and hopefully at that point I will have run my resources dry so I can take a well deserved rest after some hardcore op nb pvping.

    Pretty accurate

    No worries man if they nerf it I will class change to a nord so I can stay invincible.

    I kinda like you.
  • Malacthulhu
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    Avnr wrote: »
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    Have you tried playing a nightblade instead of a sorc?

    Funny but I gave up on all my stam classes sines the pvp is mostly range dps and snares.
    Lat days I run with RC sorc , super fun to see everything melt(500k ap solo last 2 days)
    Super tank, Super burst , Super cc , Super panic skill streak.... no need for anything else

    Well you would not be able to do that bs on my nb bc the first thing I like to do when I am upagainst a sorc especially if it is like 3 of them is pop my shade out then I will proceed to spam cloak while loling as I take sissy sorc damage then fear you all and mitigate 100% damage till they break free and hopefully at that point I will have run my resources dry so I can take a well deserved rest after some hardcore op nb pvping.

    Pretty accurate

    No worries man if they nerf it I will class change to a nord so I can stay invincible.

    I kinda like you.

    I like you. My bar for disliking someone is really high though.
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  • Ragnaroek93
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    Everyone who is wearing Shadowrend (or other Maim sets/skills) and Psijic ult is able to have this? Also, do you want to claim that Dark Cloak is any good in PvP? :joy:
    I used to think that PvP was a tragedy, but now I realize, it's a comedy.
  • chaz
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    Damage mitigation is multiplicative, not additive.

    Just be glad you werent around when mitigation from Pirate Skeleton was effecting shields!

    I've been here since beta

    Do you have another account? I was just wondering since your profile states you been here since 2017, yet beta happened a long time ago. Like 2013 I think. Don't quote me. I'm just curious.
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  • Malacthulhu
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    What if the person is a vampire nb and gets hit with straight up fire damage, and they get that 25% extra off the hop before mitigation lol it use to be 50% if anyone was curious.

    If you are not trolling Miach fair question, if you are then good job.
    Edited by Malacthulhu on July 16, 2018 7:04AM
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  • Micah_Bayer
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    chaz wrote: »
    Damage mitigation is multiplicative, not additive.

    Just be glad you werent around when mitigation from Pirate Skeleton was effecting shields!

    I've been here since beta

    Do you have another account? I was just wondering since your profile states you been here since 2017, yet beta happened a long time ago. Like 2013 I think. Don't quote me. I'm just curious.

    No I just wasnt on the forums until recently
  • Micah_Bayer
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    What if the person is a vampire nb and gets hit with straight up fire damage, and they get that 25% extra off the hop before mitigation lol it use to be 50% if anyone was curious.

    If you are not trolling Miach fair question, if you are then good job.

    I'm not trolling..I hadn't thought of vampire that is a bigger concern now lol
  • ManDraKE
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    what happend, you didn't find another post of sorcs to say how balanced they are and how skill based a magsorc is, so you had to make a "nb's are op" post? lol

    Stop making a meme of yourself, there is no coming back from that.
  • kylewwefan
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    You guys are cracking me up here. Like. I feel my NB could be OP. If someone else good was playing it.

    For the original post though, isn’t these changes supposed to be for PvE tanking? I can’t see being able to keep up a buff every 3 seconds in Cyrodil.

    Could be just cause I’m bad.
  • Shadowmaster
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    Damage mitigation is multiplicative, not additive.

    Just be glad you werent around when mitigation from Pirate Skeleton was effecting shields!

    I believe you mean affecting
  • vamp_emily
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    How many good NBs are playing this game? 5? Everyone else is average or below average players.

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