Engine Guardian - Old but gold?

ChefZero · July 2018

Especially on magicka build's cause they can use stamina better than stambuilds magicka.

idk · July 2018

Nope, set [insert set] is way better

Pretty much has been much better choices for any role in both PvE and PvP. it is pretty lame that you have a chance to have a chance to get the resource you need at the time.

A 3% chance to get what you need. If that is what you are relying on you as good as dead in PvP. Last time I saw a someone wearing that in PvE 3 players were pulling 70% of the damage and the person wearing engine guardian was one of the 5 puling 30% of the damage.

davey1107 · July 2018

Of course

It depends on the content. But with resource scarcity coming back, it's really helpful in certain circumstances.

The funny thing is, when the helms were new we all thought that resources were so much better than damage or any of the other options. This was THE SET. I worked so hard to get my first one...then it took MONTHS to get a divines shoulder. Now it feels like a huge sacrifice to give up the dps of the other sets.

Minalan · July 2018

Of course

It catches mis-targeted ultimates from about half of the zergling potatoes out there.

Lord-Otto · July 2018

Nope, set [insert set] is way better

Too unreliable. It's a very strong set when you're lucky, but it's too risky to build around it.

There aren't many comparable sets, so I'll compare it to Shadowrend, for activating Necropotence.
Shadow is reliable, can't die and does more than just sustain. I'd say you're better off sacrificing damage for sustain to use Shadow over EG.

Urvoth · July 2018

Nope, set [insert set] is way better

ChefZero wrote: »

Especially on magicka build's cause they can use stamina better than stambuilds magicka.

Not worth it when you aren't guaranteed a specific resource. 99% of the time I'm not going to want health regen, so 1/3 of the set's potential ability is useless.

Biro123 · July 2018

Underrated imho.I find it really annoying to fight against since it seems to absorb hits really well.

Wing · July 2018

Nope, set [insert set] is way better

nope, for high tier play consistency is paramount, and rng on top of rng that may or may not be of any use is a waste of a monster set, its more useful because it seems to get in the way of gap close and other effects more often then not, but there are better monster sets for that.

thankyourat · July 2018

Of course

Minalan wrote: »

It catches mis-targeted ultimates from about half of the zergling potatoes out there.

Not just zerglings I can LoS the sphere so really good players miss target their ultimate as well. I'm my opinion it's the best monster set in the game it's free LoS, it procs all the time and sometimes it doesn't disappear when you bash it. I think it gives whoever is using it a huge advantage in a 1v1 fight

CatchMeTrolling · July 2018

It’s still a good set , I don’t know what people are talking about. Sets like bloodspawn and engine guardian will always be useful.

Whether you’re stam or magic it’s good, if you’re slotting it in order to rely on your preferred proc of course you’re going to think it’s lackluster. Even more so considering most people have grown accustomed to a damage monster set.

Neloth · July 2018

Of course

It's perfect on dark dealing magsorc, since you need both resources (stam and mag) pretty equally, and, moreover, it heals you under the shields

Not to mention that it is a portable line of sight, which frequently eats enemy's soul assaults, zaans, incaps, meteors and so on.

The only unless part is first health recovery bonus in my opinion (wish it was at least max health as scoria).

React · July 2018

Of course

Its useable on stamblade and stamplar because of the amount of magica utilities they have. The best way to use EG from a sustain perspective (all other aspects such as l.o.s.ing it aside) is to spam your magicka cost abilities when you get a mag proc. You can re proc it while its active, so spamming purify, fear, cloak, rune, etc will yield the highest chance to proc. You also should be utilising the health proc as an offensive window in tandem with a ticking rally and vigor.

Solariken · July 2018

Of course

EG is the bee's knees, but not because of the resource restore. It's a free LOS meat shield everywhere you go.

gamerguy757 · July 2018

I use it on my Tank and man it helps!

Merlin13KAGL · July 2018

On one hand, there is no bad proc, ever.

On the other, and interruption kills the resource return, and any player worth there salt, having any issue with you is not going to let you refill so easily.

And then there's the proc reliability. It seems like it would proc often, but often it does not.

And I'm not entirely sure what you mean by this:

Especially on magicka build's cause they can use stamina better than stambuilds magicka.

Your stat's either there when you need it, or it's not, on either build, and it's a very random chance that you're going to get the specific stat you need, when you're in need of it.

ItsNebula · July 2018

Nope, set [insert set] is way better

Useless against a player that has basic PvP common sense. They’ll bash it , then it’s useless. Only good for a “ok” LoS

LjAnimalchin · July 2018

Nope, set [insert set] is way better

Not really that good. It's not terrible but I think there's just better options for most things tbh. Also people bash it religiously and you'd have to be a potato to ultimate someone's engine guardian lol. Potatoes tend to get folded no matter what you run.

ChefZero · July 2018

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

And I'm not entirely sure what you mean by this:

Especially on magicka build's cause they can use stamina better than stambuilds magicka.

Your stat's either there when you need it, or it's not, on either build, and it's a very random chance that you're going to get the specific stat you need, when you're in need of it.

Cause not every stambuild can utilize magicka useful but magbuilds can always utilize stamina perfectly because sprint, block and dodge is so strong offensiv or defensiv wise. I can only speak for myself but I need every resource on my magblade.

ChefZero · July 2018

LjAnimalchin wrote: »

Not really that good. It's not terrible but I think there's just better options for most things tbh. Also people bash it religiously and you'd have to be a potato to ultimate someone's engine guardian lol. Potatoes tend to get folded no matter what you run.

Which one?

RighteousBacon · July 2018

Nope, set [insert set] is way better

Blood Spawn is the GOAT, the stam recovery is useful on both stam and mag builds.

ChefZero · July 2018

RighteousBacon wrote: »

Blood Spawn is the GOAT, the stam recovery is useful on both stam and mag builds.

You wanna really compare 129 Stam reg every 2s to possible 4648 stam reg every 2s?

RighteousBacon · July 2018

Nope, set [insert set] is way better

ChefZero wrote: »

RighteousBacon wrote: »

Blood Spawn is the GOAT, the stam recovery is useful on both stam and mag builds.

You wanna really compare 129 Stam reg every 2s to possible 4648 stam reg every 2s?

I’m obviously not saying the recovery is what makes blood spawn amazing, I thought that would be easily understood. Well I guess I have to explain it then, thanks.

Engine guardian is easily stopped by a bash, it also makes the users’ next move pretty predictable. If they are getting stam they will roll a lot, getting health, they will go on the offensive, getting magicka, that one has a variety of meanings based on the class. But my point still stands.

Blood spawn adds tankiness and ult gen. This ult gen can be used in a variety of unpredictable ways. It could mean more resource management if you’re a dk. It could mean more damage. It could mean that life saving tree ult or snb ult.

Best of all: it can’t be nullified by a bash or some zergling chasing you down.

CatchMeTrolling · July 2018

Funny thing about the bash argument is that engine guardian is such a rarity that I’m sure a lot of people don’t know you can bash it. It’s like the same way people don’t realize you can block heavy attack regen.

When topics like this come up it’s good to keep the average player in mind , good players aren’t the norm.

Imza · July 2018

Of course

Engine Guardian has its place here - especially if running in a small group or solo

EDIT:
for spelling

HeathenDeacon · July 2018

Of course

i give it a 10/10 just for the LOS in BGs. that ish drives me nuts.

del9 · July 2018

Of course

Its LOS in a can.

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