Which?

Both should be broken by LoS

Last I saw both were

Last I saw only Zaan was ignoring LoS

@Waffennacht maybe i need to pay closer attention next time ill test now with a buddy

Yeah im pretty posistive it is if you could try testing it and seeing im about to as well

Joy_Division wrote: »

You're about 2 years too late for the nerf Radiant Oppression train.

Not asking for a nerf just dont want it to go through walls.

There is a bug that Jesus beam goes through walls for 1-2 ticks, i mean it wouldn't be a templar ability if it has no bugs right? @Joy_Division

It's really, really frustrating however the majority of those situations come down to the server and your Client being desynced.
For you the beam guy can't see you but the server hasn't noticed, also there are several things that provide visual LoS but aren't seen as real objects, many trees, some stones, thin objects especially in cyro Fall into this category.

Especially with lag around the beams get interrupted way too fast or you see yourself beaming someone through alessia bridge. It's really frustrating for both sides as it's inconsistent sometimes my Jesus beam breaks while i had perfect sight on my enemy and then i kill someone who is already 2m behind a wall.
I don't know what's causing that bug because it even happens with no noticeable lag but it defenitly increases when lag Kicks in.

Probably it can't be fixed with Jesus beam in its current form so i guess until templar gets a reworked beam that's not a dps loss anymore you will encounter it. Sometimes in your favour sometimes not.

Millz wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

You're about 2 years too late for the nerf Radiant Oppression train.

Not asking for a nerf just dont want it to go through walls.

My bad. I got the wrong impression from "This ability completely ruins stam," "Im pretty sure theres no counter play to it," and "I cant even go up against a magplar".

It balances that templar charge cannot go uphill or downhill

ItsNebula wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Which?

Both should be broken by LoS

Last I saw both were

Last I saw only Zaan was ignoring LoS

And last I saw every class can counter Zaan.
NB cloak it
DK’s Out heal it / Block it.
Sorcs Shield it / streak away from it.
Templars can cleanse it (unless that’s fixed now) and can out heal it.. both mag and stam
Wardens can easily out heal it and sprint away from it.

If you can’t counter Zaan, just don’t PvP.

Zaan doesn’t need a nerf for all of those reasons, and the fact not many good people use it. And if they do, 80% of the time it’s a MagDK which isn’t a big deal considering most MagDKs suck and already hardly do any damage as it is.

And the other 20% using it just suck in general

yes just leave a set in the game that's better than an ultimate and that provides enough free Damage that a fulll tank can kill People, great balance.
The set is unbalanced as hell, why not bring back double proc Viper and selene i mean they could be dealt with too with that logic.

the issue with the set it that the set with the highest burst pressure in this game is better than an ultimate that's designed to be a 1 man nuke while the coutner Play the set offers can be countered.
if you want to have this much free Damage it has to be so easy to counter that not even a Player with 1 hour of Play time should die to it and not some *** where the wearer can counter the attempt of the enemy to avoid 25k free proc Damage.

ItsNebula wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Which?

Both should be broken by LoS

Last I saw both were

Last I saw only Zaan was ignoring LoS

And last I saw every class can counter Zaan.
NB cloak it
DK’s Out heal it / Block it.
Sorcs Shield it / streak away from it.
Templars can cleanse it (unless that’s fixed now) and can out heal it.. both mag and stam
Wardens can easily out heal it and sprint away from it.

If you can’t counter Zaan, just don’t PvP.

Zaan doesn’t need a nerf for all of those reasons, and the fact not many good people use it. And if they do, 80% of the time it’s a MagDK which isn’t a big deal considering most MagDKs suck and already hardly do any damage as it is.

And the other 20% using it just suck in general

Wtf? It's not a comment on the set as good or bad.

It's just a fact, that last time I saw Zaan used or when I used Zaan, it ignored LoS.

Simple fact.

I do not know if during the last update it was changed or not.

Just ready to jump at me over anything at this point huh?