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Prohn
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Can scammers be banned or something?
I recently just got scammed on Xbox EU trying to trade gold(300k) on Eu server for gold on Na Server
Edited by Prohn on July 11, 2018 3:00PM I recently just got scammed on Xbox EU trying to trade gold(300k) on Eu server for gold on Na Server
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Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭First you should remove the names relating to the players as it's against forums rules to name and shame, if you don't moderators will likely do this for you.
Secondly in relation to the scamming I don't know, from past threads it sounds like ZOS won't ban the scammer but they will get your money back if you create a support ticket abut the issue. You can either make a ticket in game or via the website support page here https://help.elderscrollsonline.com@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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redspecter23✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Oddly enough, you can get punished for posting his name. You may want to edit it out for your own protection.
The answer is that ZOS can take action against a scammer. Whether they will or not is up to how they're feeling that particular day. You'll also never know if any action is taken as it's policy to not tell you.1 -
Prohn✭redspecter23 wrote: »Oddly enough, you can get punished for posting his name. You may want to edit it out for your own protection.
The answer is that ZOS can take action against a scammer. Whether they will or not is up to how they're feeling that particular day. You'll also never know if any action is taken as it's policy to not tell you.
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Prohn✭First you should remove the names relating to the players as it's against forums rules to name and shame, if you don't moderators will likely do this for you.
Secondly in relation to the scamming I don't know, from past threads it sounds like ZOS won't ban the scammer but they will get your money back if you create a support ticket abut the issue. You can either make a ticket in game or via the website support page here https://help.elderscrollsonline.com
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Prohn✭First you should remove the names relating to the players as it's against forums rules to name and shame, if you don't moderators will likely do this for you.
Secondly in relation to the scamming I don't know, from past threads it sounds like ZOS won't ban the scammer but they will get your money back if you create a support ticket abut the issue. You can either make a ticket in game or via the website support page here https://help.elderscrollsonline.com
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DenMoria✭✭✭✭✭
✭As someone who's been on this game from release, I would quote Poltergeist and say "They're back...", but this has been going on for years.
All you can do is report it (if you have proof).
One of the reasons only an idiot deals with Guilds and individuals that they don't know really well, and, even then, you sometimes get taken.
This is 2018. We're all out for ourselves. Buyer beware.
And, BTW, I don't think you're supposed to do that.0 -
Prohn✭As someone who's been on this game from release, I would quote Poltergeist and say "They're back...", but this has been going on for years.
All you can do is report it (if you have proof).
One of the reasons only an idiot deals with Guilds and individuals that they don't know really well, and, even then, you sometimes get taken.
This is 2018. We're all out for ourselves. Buyer beware.
And, BTW, I don't think you're supposed to do that.
Yea just in case it was a scam I recorded me sending it the guy
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DenMoria✭✭✭✭✭
✭As someone who's been on this game from release, I would quote Poltergeist and say "They're back...", but this has been going on for years.
All you can do is report it (if you have proof).
One of the reasons only an idiot deals with Guilds and individuals that they don't know really well, and, even then, you sometimes get taken.
This is 2018. We're all out for ourselves. Buyer beware.
And, BTW, I don't think you're supposed to do that.
Yea just in case it was a scam I recorded me sending it the guy
Also not supposed to do what?
Trade Gold that way. I don't know, it just strikes me as one of those shady things that they were trying to discourage way back in the game.
Good on recording the send though. Did you report it? I hope so.0 -
Nestor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I had no idea we were allowed to trade between servers in the first place....Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
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alainjbrennanb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Can scammers be banned or something?
I recently just got scammed on Xbox EU trying to trade gold(300k) on Eu server for gold on Na Server
on xbox you could get in big trouble for that, forget zos, you should be more concerned about xbox's t@c's things like that can get u a ban or terimination of xbox accountMain character dk - Vanikifar whitestrike0 -
DenMoria✭✭✭✭✭
✭alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »Can scammers be banned or something?
I recently just got scammed on Xbox EU trying to trade gold(300k) on Eu server for gold on Na Server
on xbox you could get in big trouble for that, forget zos, you should be more concerned about xbox's t@c's things like that can get u a ban or terimination of xbox account
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Prohn✭As someone who's been on this game from release, I would quote Poltergeist and say "They're back...", but this has been going on for years.
All you can do is report it (if you have proof).
One of the reasons only an idiot deals with Guilds and individuals that they don't know really well, and, even then, you sometimes get taken.
This is 2018. We're all out for ourselves. Buyer beware.
And, BTW, I don't think you're supposed to do that.
Yea just in case it was a scam I recorded me sending it the guy
Also not supposed to do what?
Trade Gold that way. I don't know, it just strikes me as one of those shady things that they were trying to discourage way back in the game.
Good on recording the send though. Did you report it? I hope so.
I never knew it was a problem...If I knew I would have never done it0 -
Prof_Bawbag✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭It's not really a shame. After all, that would allow me to come on here and call you a scammer. Can understand why that rule is in place and saves people from themselves basically.3 -
Prohn✭alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »Can scammers be banned or something?
I recently just got scammed on Xbox EU trying to trade gold(300k) on Eu server for gold on Na Server
on xbox you could get in big trouble for that, forget zos, you should be more concerned about xbox's t@c's things like that can get u a ban or terimination of xbox account
how does it go against xbox's toc? Its not like I was purchasing gold with real money...0 -
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✭✭✭As someone who's been on this game from release, I would quote Poltergeist and say "They're back...", but this has been going on for years.
All you can do is report it (if you have proof).
One of the reasons only an idiot deals with Guilds and individuals that they don't know really well, and, even then, you sometimes get taken.
This is 2018. We're all out for ourselves. Buyer beware.
And, BTW, I don't think you're supposed to do that.
Yea just in case it was a scam I recorded me sending it the guy
Also not supposed to do what?
Trade Gold that way. I don't know, it just strikes me as one of those shady things that they were trying to discourage way back in the game.
Good on recording the send though. Did you report it? I hope so.
I never knew it was a problem...If I knew I would have never done it
I don't know if that specifically is a problem, or against the TOS. There certainly is no system in place to ensure the transaction takes place. You are basically relying on the person being honest. In this case they weren't.Main: Drio Azul ~ DC, Redguard, Healer/Magicka Templar ~ NA-PC
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Prohn✭Prof_Bawbag wrote: »It's not really a shame. After all, that would allow me to come on here and call you a scammer. Can understand why that rule is in place and saves people from themselves basically.
how would that allow you to call me a scammer?0 -
Prohn✭Prof_Bawbag wrote: »It's not really a shame. After all, that would allow me to come on here and call you a scammer. Can understand why that rule is in place and saves people from themselves basically.
also yea it isnt a shame because its my fault for trusting someone.0 -
DenMoria✭✭✭✭✭
✭Who called who a scammer and where was the scammer's name posted? I don't see either here, but maybe I'm not looking hard enough.0 -
Prof_Bawbag✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Prof_Bawbag wrote: »It's not really a shame. After all, that would allow me to come on here and call you a scammer. Can understand why that rule is in place and saves people from themselves basically.
how would that allow you to call me a scammer?
If we can come on here and just drop names, then what's to stop someone just dropping your name without your knowledge? There's a lot of people out there that just like to throw the word "scammer" around or who love embellishing stories because they happen to be salty af about something.
I'm not saying that you fall into any of those categories and nor am i calling you a scammer, i'm merely giving you an example why naming and shaming does more harm than good.
Edited by Prof_Bawbag on July 11, 2018 3:58PM4 -
alainjbrennanb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »Can scammers be banned or something?
I recently just got scammed on Xbox EU trying to trade gold(300k) on Eu server for gold on Na Server
on xbox you could get in big trouble for that, forget zos, you should be more concerned about xbox's t@c's things like that can get u a ban or terimination of xbox account
how does it go against xbox's toc? Its not like I was purchasing gold with real money...
it was just a heads up but it can result in things like i said ie: Use your account to trade services or in-game content for memberships, games, gift cards, account credit or content, Lend, transfer, sell or otherwiseMain character dk - Vanikifar whitestrike0 -
Prohn✭alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »Can scammers be banned or something?
I recently just got scammed on Xbox EU trying to trade gold(300k) on Eu server for gold on Na Server
on xbox you could get in big trouble for that, forget zos, you should be more concerned about xbox's t@c's things like that can get u a ban or terimination of xbox account
how does it go against xbox's toc? Its not like I was purchasing gold with real money...
it was just a heads up but it can result in things like i said ie: Use your account to trade services or in-game content for memberships, games, gift cards, account credit or content, Lend, transfer, sell or otherwise
well thanks for letting me know
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✭✭✭✭✭never mind I figured it out...But I think it sucks that you cant warn others of a scammer
Have you ever heard the tale of @LegendaryMage?
Yeah, that's why. Hell, I'm facing a much smaller example of this in one of my guilds now. We had a pair of former officers who were using racial slurs in discord, so they got booted, and now they're trying to paint me as, "mad with powah," to anyone who will listen.
With respect to you, and your intentions, @Prohn, we don't know if you're acting with clean hands. This doesn't mean I don't believe you, but people who start witch hunts in retribution do exist. That's why that rule exists. And it's the same on Reddit. We've had people try to start witch hunts, specifically, to go after people who irked them, by painting them as scammers, bank thieves, and worse. We don't have the capacity to verify what you're telling us. Customer support does.1 -
LegendaryMage✭✭✭✭✭
✭starkerealm wrote: »never mind I figured it out...But I think it sucks that you cant warn others of a scammer
Have you ever heard the tale of @LegendaryMage?
Yeah, that's why. Hell, I'm facing a much smaller example of this in one of my guilds now. We had a pair of former officers who were using racial slurs in discord, so they got booted, and now they're trying to paint me as, "mad with powah," to anyone who will listen.
With respect to you, and your intentions, @Prohn, we don't know if you're acting with clean hands. This doesn't mean I don't believe you, but people who start witch hunts in retribution do exist. That's why that rule exists. And it's the same on Reddit. We've had people try to start witch hunts, specifically, to go after people who irked them, by painting them as scammers, bank thieves, and worse. We don't have the capacity to verify what you're telling us. Customer support does.
Dude, they used to go with groups of dozens of salty players in the game and report me for allegedly wishing people to die in Paris terrorist attacks, because they heard if they use such strong 'keywords' at the time, it would be enough to somehow auto-ban someone at least until it's properly investigated.
There were some really desperate attempts to remove me from the game, and it's all because of the ass-kicking inflicted upon them in PVP. Some of them were salty cause they got booted from the guild of course.
They wanted to do absolutely anything to paint me as some devil of PC EU who wreaks havoc on anyone he doesn't like. It was really reta*ded.
Most of the time the officers and me were laughing our asses off at the latest drama attempts.Edited by LegendaryMage on July 12, 2018 10:09AM0 -
Pixel_Zealot✭✭✭✭This function has been made to be exploited.Dragonborn, huh? Was it your ma or your pa that was the dragon?0 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
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It's to protect people against fake smear campaigns, which we've had happen in the past (even with the rule in place)never mind I figured it out...But I think it sucks that you cant warn others of a scammer
Generally yes it sucks we can't list all the shady players and warn others but it's better to avoid a place where mob justice and smear campaigns run wild.
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