Time Stop

regime211 · July 2018

This skill is the CAUSE of the frozen screens on Na Ps4. Zos this skill was never needed to be in the game. The constant relogging back in, has gotten old.

Vapirko · July 2018

Didn’t you already make a thread about this

Thogard · July 2018

Vapirko wrote: »

Didn’t you already make a thread about this

Yeah but he abandoned it after claiming he had “proof” but was then unable to back it up after getting called out.

regime211 · July 2018

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/424556/time-stop-nerf-plz#latest oh yet someone else post about it, I expect for you trolls to go comment negativity under this person thread as well.

VaranisArano · July 2018

I'm curious, so I'll bite.

Are you actually noticing a direct correlation between more freezes when people use time stop near you compared to less freezes in the same types of situation when people dont use time stop?

Or are you seeing more freezes lately and jumping to the conclusion that time stop must be the cause because its a new commonly used skill?

In short, your proof that Time Stop is the CAUSE is lacking. If you want people to take this post seriously, you should consider explaining why you think Time Stop is directly contributing to the freezes you experience, instead of merely correlated with the types of situations where you freeze.

Edited to add: this thread https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/424556/time-stop-nerf-plz#latest doesn't have any proof that Time Stop freezes the game either. Try again?

On PC/NA, I'll notice that my screen seems to "hiccup" as large groups of players freeze if they get caught in a time stop. The game didn't actually freeze, but my mind reads it as a brief freeze because players stopped moving for a second. That's what Time Stop does! It freezes people in place for a second or two. (Some of the times I've frozen mid-dodge roll are hilarious)

So again, what freezing are you seeing? Is it distinct from the momentary freezing caused by the skill? (as the thread you posted is complaining about because the OP isn't talking about game freezes on the PS4 at all) Or are you claiming its freezing the whole game for the PS4 and if so, can you prove it? (You said you had proof on your other thread so it'd be nice to see it: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/424145/time-stop-skill-in-pvp#latest)

jaws343 · July 2018

Part of me wonders if the OP doesn't realize that Time Stop actually freezes players who get caught in it. /sarcasm

And the other thread they posted didn't go their way because many times over they said that Time Stop was causing the crash problems in Cyrodil when tons of players were in the area casting it. Rather than realizing that the issue has more to do with tons of players in a single area casting abilities, the OP attributed the issue to Time Stop and has still failed to actually provide proof of this. Which they won't be able to do without actually looking at the coding.

regime211 · July 2018

jaws343 wrote: »

Part of me wonders if the OP doesn't realize that Time Stop actually freezes players who get caught in it. /sarcasm

And the other thread they posted didn't go their way because many times over they said that Time Stop was causing the crash problems in Cyrodil when tons of players were in the area casting it. Rather than realizing that the issue has more to do with tons of players in a single area casting abilities, the OP attributed the issue to Time Stop and has still failed to actually provide proof of this. Which they won't be able to do without actually looking at the coding.

Actually no what is stated in THIS FORUM is what I was getting at, sorry you couldn't comprehend.

jaws343 · July 2018

regime211 wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

Part of me wonders if the OP doesn't realize that Time Stop actually freezes players who get caught in it. /sarcasm

And the other thread they posted didn't go their way because many times over they said that Time Stop was causing the crash problems in Cyrodil when tons of players were in the area casting it. Rather than realizing that the issue has more to do with tons of players in a single area casting abilities, the OP attributed the issue to Time Stop and has still failed to actually provide proof of this. Which they won't be able to do without actually looking at the coding.

Actually no what is stated in THIS FORUM is what I was getting at, sorry you couldn't comprehend.

Couldn't comprehend? Your claim is that time stop is causing freezing and crashing. You have no proof for you claim other than to say that many players in an area casting it is causing players to crash. That doesn't mean that time stop is causing players to crash. I mentioned it in your other thread, correlation does not equal causation. Simple logic.

And here is the thing that I think you are failing to understand, no one is trying to disprove you or disbelieve you. We just want to see proof. Because all you are doing is making a claim and calling for a nerf but without any proof your claim holds zero water and just sound like you hate this skill.

regime211 · July 2018

jaws343 wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

Part of me wonders if the OP doesn't realize that Time Stop actually freezes players who get caught in it. /sarcasm

And the other thread they posted didn't go their way because many times over they said that Time Stop was causing the crash problems in Cyrodil when tons of players were in the area casting it. Rather than realizing that the issue has more to do with tons of players in a single area casting abilities, the OP attributed the issue to Time Stop and has still failed to actually provide proof of this. Which they won't be able to do without actually looking at the coding.

Actually no what is stated in THIS FORUM is what I was getting at, sorry you couldn't comprehend.

Couldn't comprehend? Your claim is that time stop is causing freezing and crashing. You have no proof for you claim other than to say that many players in an area casting it is causing players to crash. That doesn't mean that time stop is causing players to crash. I mentioned it in your other thread, correlation does not equal causation. Simple logic.

And here is the thing that I think you are failing to understand, no one is trying to disprove you or disbelieve you. We just want to see proof. Because all you are doing is making a claim and calling for a nerf but without any proof your claim holds zero water and just sound like you hate this skill.

Hate the skill? Its trash and it isn't even useful, I have never died to the skill, yet I'm not the only one complaining about it causing the game to crash, you clearly must not be good at pvp or dont pvp at all.

regime211 · July 2018

jaws343 wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

Part of me wonders if the OP doesn't realize that Time Stop actually freezes players who get caught in it. /sarcasm

And the other thread they posted didn't go their way because many times over they said that Time Stop was causing the crash problems in Cyrodil when tons of players were in the area casting it. Rather than realizing that the issue has more to do with tons of players in a single area casting abilities, the OP attributed the issue to Time Stop and has still failed to actually provide proof of this. Which they won't be able to do without actually looking at the coding.

Actually no what is stated in THIS FORUM is what I was getting at, sorry you couldn't comprehend.

Couldn't comprehend? Your claim is that time stop is causing freezing and crashing. You have no proof for you claim other than to say that many players in an area casting it is causing players to crash. That doesn't mean that time stop is causing players to crash. I mentioned it in your other thread, correlation does not equal causation. Simple logic.

And here is the thing that I think you are failing to understand, no one is trying to disprove you or disbelieve you. We just want to see proof. Because all you are doing is making a claim and calling for a nerf but without any proof your claim holds zero water and just sound like you hate this skill.

I did NOT only say it needs a nerf, it needs to be reworked if it's the cause of crashing or a combination.

jaws343 · July 2018

regime211 wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

Part of me wonders if the OP doesn't realize that Time Stop actually freezes players who get caught in it. /sarcasm

And the other thread they posted didn't go their way because many times over they said that Time Stop was causing the crash problems in Cyrodil when tons of players were in the area casting it. Rather than realizing that the issue has more to do with tons of players in a single area casting abilities, the OP attributed the issue to Time Stop and has still failed to actually provide proof of this. Which they won't be able to do without actually looking at the coding.

Actually no what is stated in THIS FORUM is what I was getting at, sorry you couldn't comprehend.

Couldn't comprehend? Your claim is that time stop is causing freezing and crashing. You have no proof for you claim other than to say that many players in an area casting it is causing players to crash. That doesn't mean that time stop is causing players to crash. I mentioned it in your other thread, correlation does not equal causation. Simple logic.

And here is the thing that I think you are failing to understand, no one is trying to disprove you or disbelieve you. We just want to see proof. Because all you are doing is making a claim and calling for a nerf but without any proof your claim holds zero water and just sound like you hate this skill.

Hate the skill? Its trash and it isn't even useful, I have never died to the skill, yet I'm not the only one complaining about it causing the game to crash, you clearly must not be good at pvp or dont pvp at all.

What does being good at PVP have anything to do with the veracity of a claim about a skill causing the game to crash? You are now just resorting to personal insults for no reason. And you are the only one complaining about the skill for that reason. The other thread you pointed to, as pointed out by others, is talking about the actual mechanics of the skill and not the game crashing.