Aside from having more people concentrated in a small area than a PUG, due to their nature as a guild group, and having group buffs affecting the majority of their group at once, again compared to PUGs who likely don't to the same extent, I doubt there's any malicious trickery going on here.

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do those same people / faction members also play on all platforms, servers, and campaigns?
on all platforms ?

Strictly speaking PC NA as the op is, DC and AD don't have organized ball groups who field numbers that EP does. The server having to continually calculate buffs, heals, damage and positioning on 24+ players stacked in overlapping placement is a very likely contributor to lag. EP does that better than anyone else, (probably) not to intentionally cause lag, but because that's how they like to play. The lag is (probably) an unintended consequence.

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AD is running 2-3 raids DAILY just to fight EP. Primetime is a mess everyday since first day of Summerset because EP is generally fighting the lag and two locked faction around Chalman, BRK and Arrius.

I don't think a schedule of AD and DC raids is needed here everyone who's EP knows what is actually going on.

EDIT and a TLDR: I just think it's unfair to blame [removed guild name] as the root of lag because AD raids such as DK DD VE Ni Ruins alongside with countless AD pugs are lagging everyone out as well.

another TLDR: all faction zergs.

Ballgroups have always been a big contributing factor to the lag, it doesn't matter what alliance you're talking about, all that matters is the current live population of the campaign and how big the ballgroup is, along with how many randoms have they managed to accumulate around themselves.

I remember the days of intentionally crashing the servers and causing rollbacks (I've seen them do it a few times so I know even how exactly they did it too), fortunately this doesn't seem to happen anymore but the lag is all but gone of course.

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99.9999% convinced it is some type of denial of service going on. I've heard whispers of something utilizing area chat but no concrete evidence.

I'm sure it's been removed by now, but there used to be a video of a guy in pve who was showcasing how using cheat engine actually can cause lag spikes with 100% reproduction of it everytime.

He was just sitting there at a way shrine and would turn it on and off and you would see people react to the lag spikes out of no where and he was laughing the entire time he was doing it.

Still possible? Dont know honestly dont really care. Just putting it out there.

I'm sure if you youtube it you could find it. He was a pretty decent community member who quit the game and his last hurrah was showing how cheat engine could cause such things. Then he posted the video and at the end bid farewell to eso.

P.s.

He was only turning on speed increase and stat increases and it would cause lag spikes.

Edit: not saying that the above is what is happening, I, again, am just putting that out there. That video made me take a break from eso for a while. Then when I came back the infinite meteors happened when I logged back on for the first time. Glorious days.

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Aesthier wrote: »

Ohhhh... faction conspiracy!


Just like why the scamps on the AD side of the sewers are bugged and make farming them next to impossible.

AD is also “disadvantaged” when it comes to the geographic locations of the Cyrodiil capturable towns ... according to some tinfoil hat wearers in the forums.

except that not really opinion or debatable. if you have eyeballs, and look at the map, its easy enough to compare the relative locations of vlast, crops, and bruma. bruma being almost directly between bleakers and dragonclaw.

if we assume that bruma is supposed to "belong" to DC as its located between their outlying keep and their outpost (bleakers) as well as being on DC's side of the DC-EP mile gates.

then cropsford belongs to EP (it even says so on the wiki that its under EP control) but its located much further south relative to bruma and as located perfectly to cross the two bridges leading into AD territory (that in themselves do not provide the same protection as the mile gates afforded to EP and DC)

and finally we have vlast that sits SOUTH of Roe, Brindle, and Nickel (AD's outpost) making it useless as a staging post because its behind our own keeps, but if loss provides the enemy with crippling ease of access to a multitude of AD keeps.

this is before getting into the micro details of things like the outposts, the terrain around them, what sides have advantage and why, etc. (spoilers bleakers is the most biased outpost heavily favoring DC defense, Sej is in the middle obviously favoring EP defense but not to the overwhelming extent bleakers favors DC, and Nik is weirdly neutral favoring DC defense despite supposedly being AD's outpost


sorry but this is just facts, by design and map locations, AD is at a disadvantage, EP has advantage, and DC is fairly neutral. its either needs to be perfectly symmetrical, or more variations of ruins and contested areas need to be added and manipulated so its just too disorderly to have any advantage one way or another.

Thogard wrote: »

AOE skills might take the least amount of skill to use but they require the most server computing power.

The more people there are inside of healing and dmg AOEs, the greater the drain on the server, and it grows at an exponential rate per person added.

The ball groups run builds that don’t require any character micro to use so they don’t mind the lag. They Are the greatest cause of the lag and the greatest beneficiaries of it.

But you’re crazy if you think they’re somehow hacking the server or intentionally creating that lag. They just want to PvP like everyone else.

If I could make this post the sticky of this thread, I would in a heartbeat. Well done sir.

Skoomah wrote: »

It’s a lag hack. Makes you lag so the enemy can macro slice you.

while using some super secret ancient technique passed down from generations! Shhhh!

I'm not going to name names or even say which faction (it's irrelevant).

But... there is a zerg ball group that you can locate just by turning around and looking for the lag.

Not only can you identify where they are by doing this, it extends as far as to the next keep.

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

I'm not going to name names or even say which faction (it's irrelevant).

But... there is a zerg ball group that you can locate just by turning around and looking for the lag.

Not only can you identify where they are by doing this, it extends as far as to the next keep.

Lag has always been worse with a large group of people around...this doesn't mean anything.

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Aesthier wrote: »

Ohhhh... faction conspiracy!


Just like why the scamps on the AD side of the sewers are bugged and make farming them next to impossible.

AD is also “disadvantaged” when it comes to the geographic locations of the Cyrodiil capturable towns ... according to some tinfoil hat wearers in the forums.

Vlastarus: close to nothing really
Cropsford: close to an EP home keep
Bruma: close to a DC home keep, and an outpost

Yep, it's totally AD that gets screwed by geography.

No one cares about the constant 20k D-ticks at Alessia whenever EP pushes up the hill and then gets pushed back to the bridge.

PS: I'm ecstatic that this thread is getting sidetracked