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Mag DK Catch-Up (PvE DPS)
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arishok33✭✭So the rotation is still wild and crazy but I think it is efficient. On my break I was able to test it some sets
BSW fire staff nirnhoned front bar flame enchant
Fire malestrom back bar weapon spell damage enchant
Grothdar 5-1-1
Ran with acuity got 33k solo on 3 mil dummy
What can I do or adjustments can I make to get in the 40k+ range?
What Mundus? I was told on dummy parse to run lover
(BTW I hit 30k with Queen's elegance)
As expected ~3k less with Elegance.
I can't tell you how to improve, I've got nothing to go off. I don't know what skills you run, your CP distribution and I'd have to see a parse video followed by the Combat Metrics report to see if you're weaving properly and keeping up the buffs.
You should run Lover, yes. Download an add-on called Constellations. It attaches to Combat Metrics and when you bring up a parse it gives you the option to analyse the parse and suggest changes to your CP depending on your damage distribution. It'll take care of your penetration for you, among other things.
Other things to note... Double infused staves (front and back) is marginally better but not much difference. Zaan is definitely better than grothdarr for single target (i.e. dummy parsing), adds +1.5k to your dps.
What's your uptime with Mechanical Acuity? If your uptime is under ~23% (I expect below 20%) you'd better off running one of
- Sun
- Mother Sorrow
- Acuity
..on the body. Keep BSW on front bar only. I think Sun is great on MagDK personally.
And lover? Your parse was cheesed man. You really shoudn't run the lover on a mag dps. On a dummy thats about as cheesy as it gets.1 -
Maulkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭So the rotation is still wild and crazy but I think it is efficient. On my break I was able to test it some sets
BSW fire staff nirnhoned front bar flame enchant
Fire malestrom back bar weapon spell damage enchant
Grothdar 5-1-1
Ran with acuity got 33k solo on 3 mil dummy
What can I do or adjustments can I make to get in the 40k+ range?
What Mundus? I was told on dummy parse to run lover
(BTW I hit 30k with Queen's elegance)
As expected ~3k less with Elegance.
I can't tell you how to improve, I've got nothing to go off. I don't know what skills you run, your CP distribution and I'd have to see a parse video followed by the Combat Metrics report to see if you're weaving properly and keeping up the buffs.
You should run Lover, yes. Download an add-on called Constellations. It attaches to Combat Metrics and when you bring up a parse it gives you the option to analyse the parse and suggest changes to your CP depending on your damage distribution. It'll take care of your penetration for you, among other things.
Other things to note... Double infused staves (front and back) is marginally better but not much difference. Zaan is definitely better than grothdarr for single target (i.e. dummy parsing), adds +1.5k to your dps.
What's your uptime with Mechanical Acuity? If your uptime is under ~23% (I expect below 20%) you'd better off running one of
- Sun
- Mother Sorrow
- Acuity
..on the body. Keep BSW on front bar only. I think Sun is great on MagDK personally.
And lover? Your parse was cheesed man. You really shoudn't run the lover on a mag dps. On a dummy thats about as cheesy as it gets.
Right, where do I start...
First off, you really should run lover. This is not even an opinion, this is a statement of fact. The point of dummy parses and comparing builds is creating common denominator so you can test the impact of the two things that matter: Sets and skill load-out. Everyone runs Lover for dummy parses, so if you're not, you're not testing with a common denominator with everyone else and you're causing a problem for yourself with no benefits.
Secondly, and following from the above, there's a difference between the builds you're testing. The first screenshot has 60.2% crit and the other 49.5% crit.The 3rd screeshotn has different Max Magicka and different Max Sp.Dmg from the other two. That's either different sets or different CPs or the impact from the person buffing you. Ultimately your test is compromised. You're not testing only the impact of changing Flame Lash to Molten Whip. All about creating that common denominator we talked about.
I don't know what your BSW uptime is, it doesn't show in screenshots cause Siroria takes the whole page. The max uptime you can have is 66% because it has an enforced cooldown. As you can see from my screenshot, my uptime is 62%. Anything above 60% is good up-time and the set outperforms in impact Julianos, Sorrow and Acuity (not sure about Acuity with FP, have not tested that).
As for the rotation, it gets messy because skills have different durations. Technically you have 3 skills on 15" duration (FoO, Eruption, Trap), two skills on 10" duration (Embers, Engulfing) , one 8" (Blockade) and one 23" (Ele Drain). So After the first 10 seconds it gets messy if you want to be optimal. It can be simple if you want to do it wrongly. Which is by refresh skills before they expired, or leaving them for a couple of seconds without re-application.
But yeah Siroria on a static fights has huge impact to DPS. It's 200 more spell damage compared to Sun, with Minor Slayer buff instead of 1.2k HP. That's 4-5k DPS boost right there, if you're static.
Edited by Maulkin on June 26, 2018 10:17AMEU | PC | AD2 -
arishok33✭✭So the rotation is still wild and crazy but I think it is efficient. On my break I was able to test it some sets
BSW fire staff nirnhoned front bar flame enchant
Fire malestrom back bar weapon spell damage enchant
Grothdar 5-1-1
Ran with acuity got 33k solo on 3 mil dummy
What can I do or adjustments can I make to get in the 40k+ range?
What Mundus? I was told on dummy parse to run lover
(BTW I hit 30k with Queen's elegance)
As expected ~3k less with Elegance.
I can't tell you how to improve, I've got nothing to go off. I don't know what skills you run, your CP distribution and I'd have to see a parse video followed by the Combat Metrics report to see if you're weaving properly and keeping up the buffs.
You should run Lover, yes. Download an add-on called Constellations. It attaches to Combat Metrics and when you bring up a parse it gives you the option to analyse the parse and suggest changes to your CP depending on your damage distribution. It'll take care of your penetration for you, among other things.
Other things to note... Double infused staves (front and back) is marginally better but not much difference. Zaan is definitely better than grothdarr for single target (i.e. dummy parsing), adds +1.5k to your dps.
What's your uptime with Mechanical Acuity? If your uptime is under ~23% (I expect below 20%) you'd better off running one of
- Sun
- Mother Sorrow
- Acuity
..on the body. Keep BSW on front bar only. I think Sun is great on MagDK personally.
And lover? Your parse was cheesed man. You really shoudn't run the lover on a mag dps. On a dummy thats about as cheesy as it gets.
Right, where do I start...
First off, you really should run lover. This is not even an opinion, this is a statement of fact. The point of dummy parses and comparing builds is creating common denominator so you can test the impact of the two things that matter: Sets and skill load-out. Everyone runs Lover for dummy parses, so if you're not, you're not testing with a common denominator with everyone else and you're causing a problem for yourself with no benefits.
Secondly, and following from the above, there's a difference between the builds you're testing. The first screenshot has 60.2% crit and the other 49.5% crit.The 3rd screeshotn has different Max Magicka and different Max Sp.Dmg from the other two. That's either different sets or different CPs or the impact from the person buffing you. Ultimately your test is compromised. You're not testing only the impact of changing Flame Lash to Molten Whip. All about creating that common denominator we talked about.
I don't know what your BSW uptime is, it doesn't show in screenshots cause Siroria takes the whole page. The max uptime you can have is 66% because it has an enforced cooldown. As you can see from my screenshot, my uptime is 62%. Anything above 60% is good up-time and the set outperforms in impact Julianos, Sorrow and Acuity (not sure about Acuity with FP, have not tested that).
As for the rotation, it gets messy because skills have different durations. Technically you have 3 skills on 15" duration (FoO, Eruption, Trap), two skills on 10" duration (Embers, Engulfing) , one 8" (Blockade) and one 23" (Ele Drain). So After the first 10 seconds it gets messy if you want to be optimal. It can be simple if you want to do it wrongly. Which is by refresh skills before they expired, or leaving them for a couple of seconds without re-application.
But yeah Siroria on a static fights has huge impact to DPS. It's 200 more spell damage compared to Sun, with Minor Slayer buff instead of 1.2k HP. That's 4-5k DPS boost right there, if you're static.
No one runs lover on magicka dps for tests. Thats called cheesing since you don't use it in trials. Saying it's normal is ridiculous. Nobody in the endgame trials scene I know would agree with that. xD
As for the crit difference, yeah I probably forgot to change mundus on the first parse. Which doesn't really matter since thief and apprentice are roughly the same when using whip.
The loadout on the third parse is completely different, since I am using FP like I said and therefore the perfected AS staff with willpower instead of BSW.
Since this is my main loadout for vAS+2 and Cloudrest I am using a rotation which isn't optimal for BSW frontbar which is the reason the dps is so low. However you could still see that molten is better.
I don't get ypur arguing. 41k even if crit was bad WITH LOVER is really on the low side this patch.
Maybe switch to molten whip, get siroria and a static rotation. Put on BSW instead of sun and enjoy.
Just some friendly advise.
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Maulkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I don't get ypur arguing. 41k even if crit was bad WITH LOVER is really on the low side this patch.
Maybe switch to molten whip, get siroria and a static rotation. Put on BSW instead of sun and enjoy.
Just some friendly advise.
Mate, you had 45k with good crits, with Siroria and with someone providing off-balance and minor Vulnerability for you. The Minor Vulnerability alone complete negates the benefit of Lover over Apprentice.
I don't get your arguing either. I never said Siroria isn't better. So, I don't really understand the usefulness of this advice. The point was on molten whip vs flame lash.
It's 100 spell damage affecting only 4 skills. Only 2 of them are in your top 5 and the buff only applies when on your front bar. Maths does not support it affecting your DPS by than 1k. It just doesn't.EU | PC | AD2 -
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I don't get ypur arguing. 41k even if crit was bad WITH LOVER is really on the low side this patch.
Maybe switch to molten whip, get siroria and a static rotation. Put on BSW instead of sun and enjoy.
Just some friendly advise.
Mate, you had 45k with good crits, with Siroria and with someone providing off-balance and minor Vulnerability for you. The Minor Vulnerability alone complete negates the benefit of Lover over Apprentice.
I don't get your arguing either. I never said Siroria isn't better. So, I don't really understand the usefulness of this advice. The point was on molten whip vs flame lash.
It's 100 spell damage affecting only 4 skills. Only 2 of them are in your top 5 and the buff only applies when on your front bar. Maths does not support it affecting your DPS by than 1k. It just doesn't.
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Maulkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »I don't get ypur arguing. 41k even if crit was bad WITH LOVER is really on the low side this patch.
Maybe switch to molten whip, get siroria and a static rotation. Put on BSW instead of sun and enjoy.
Just some friendly advise.
Mate, you had 45k with good crits, with Siroria and with someone providing off-balance and minor Vulnerability for you. The Minor Vulnerability alone complete negates the benefit of Lover over Apprentice.
I don't get your arguing either. I never said Siroria isn't better. So, I don't really understand the usefulness of this advice. The point was on molten whip vs flame lash.
It's 100 spell damage affecting only 4 skills. Only 2 of them are in your top 5 and the buff only applies when on your front bar. Maths does not support it affecting your DPS by than 1k. It just doesn't.
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I stand corrected!EU | PC | AD2 -
arishok33✭✭I don't get ypur arguing. 41k even if crit was bad WITH LOVER is really on the low side this patch.
Maybe switch to molten whip, get siroria and a static rotation. Put on BSW instead of sun and enjoy.
Just some friendly advise.
Mate, you had 45k with good crits, with Siroria and with someone providing off-balance and minor Vulnerability for you. The Minor Vulnerability alone complete negates the benefit of Lover over Apprentice.
I don't get your arguing either. I never said Siroria isn't better. So, I don't really understand the usefulness of this advice. The point was on molten whip vs flame lash.
It's 100 spell damage affecting only 4 skills. Only 2 of them are in your top 5 and the buff only applies when on your front bar. Maths does not support it affecting your DPS by than 1k. It just doesn't.
Thats why i said the dps was bad. For buffs provided at least.
If I would change rotation I could hit 47k+ with molten whip but I am too lazy for that since I use FP anyway.
And like I said the third parse 48,8k was except for bubbles and eledrain selfbuffed.
My point beeing:
FP > molten whip > lash
About 2k jumps each.
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Maulkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭My point beeing:
FP > molten whip > lash
About 2k jumps each.
And my point is, that is wrong. The last part at least. And I've yet to see evidence that contradicts that.
EDIT: And I don't really need to see it. Simple maths dictates that you can't get 2k dps increase from 100 sp. dmg. affecting half your skills half the time. It's beyond questioning really.
Edited by Maulkin on June 26, 2018 1:40PMEU | PC | AD0 -
Bringing this back for one final question, on my BSW inferno staff, what trait should I transmute it to? (currently it's on Defending which is garbage) I'm trying to get the best PvE damage, and I've heard a lot about infused (flame enchant, right?) but I was running Nirnhoned on my Infallible Aether inferno staff and liked that a lot, so what do you guys think?0 -
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✭Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »Bringing this back for one final question, on my BSW inferno staff, what trait should I transmute it to? (currently it's on Defending which is garbage) I'm trying to get the best PvE damage, and I've heard a lot about infused (flame enchant, right?) but I was running Nirnhoned on my Infallible Aether inferno staff and liked that a lot, so what do you guys think?
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SmellyUnlimited✭✭✭✭Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »Ok so update, I found 2 BSW inferno staves in my bank (I know, right? how lucky am I lol) so I'm working on rearranging my gear. When I parsed the dummy last night, I hit 27k as per usual with 5 bsw, 5IA, and 2 groth this time. Not bad but not great. The weird thing is that when I parsed twice, I got exactly zero power lash procs. Even though I was laying down rearming and doing the rotation correctly. So i'm wondering now if I should swap out power lash for molten whip (for that sweet, sweet extra burning embers damage) and replace rearming with talons on my back bar. Thoughts? Experiences? Relevant anecdotes?
No is the answer. You will get Power Lash procs in trials from the Lightning Blockades of Sorcs. Molten Whip will give you marginally higher DPS against the dummy but lower DPS and sustain in trials. So it's only useful for try-hardning the dummy otherwise it's a useless morph.
Swap IA for either Julianos or preferrably Sun on the body. And go farm Zaan, you really need just one run with some friends to get a heavy or medium head and then transmute it. The shoulders you just need to do dailies for. Easy peasy.
Go practice your rotation though. That DPS is very low unless you are low on CP. You should be hitting 35k with that build on MaxCP without problems. So it sounds like you're not keeping the DoTs up well enough.
Power Lash is BS. Much higher dps with molten whip even in trials.
@Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
It is when you use Siroria/BSW since the spelldamage is already very high and the more crit benefits more.
Any other set combo I would stick to apprentice.
I'm happy to be proven wrong with some evidence. When I swapped to Molten Whip for my dummy parses I got around 1k DPS increase. I didn't see any evidence of "much higher dps".
Care to back it up?
I don't use whip so I don't have any Raidparses from this patch.
I can however do a 6 mil dummy parse with molten whip and offbalance and then with powerlash.
Will do tomorrow.
What numbers are you pushing with powerlash?
Apologies, I didn't see your question at first glance. Nothing magical tbh, but then I don't have Siroria or at least that's my excuse
On my basic b**** setup (Zaan, Sun, BSW front, vMA back) I usually pull 40-43k DPS depending on lucky crits and fluidity of my rotation etc. etc.
Obligatory screenshot with terrible crit rate on the hardest hitting skills.
Sry, completely forgot about the parses. Beforehand I have to say these are both really bad parses, because I usually don't rund BSW on Frontbar and spend to much time on my backbar in my usual rotation. Therefore the uptime was really bad. Don't take them as a representation of the DPS possible. You can break 47k easily with this set up.
Both parses had Offbalance and minor vulnerability provided.
So, barely 43k with Powerlash:
Barely 43k with
Almost 46k with molten Whip:
Difference is almost 3k, in Raid it will only go up. Powerlash is BS.
But actually I wouldn't run any opf these. With FP I can perform way better. In this parse no Offbalance was provided and minor vulnerability only what proccs of FP:
Almost 49k. With perfect Siroria I could certainly break the 50k.
In terms of Rotation. The DK uses a fixed rotation. Don't know where you got your Magblade comparison but that sounds really weird. I personally go 4/2, when I don't need balance or get guard in the raid I go 5/3. Only thing that ever changes in my rotation.
@Maulkin
Many would call your parse above cheese. There needs to be a standard for dps parses. Using the Lover isn’t something you would do in a team combat situation, so it just artificially inflates your numbers. Numbers don’t matter anymore because you’re having someone’s provide minor vulnerability and off-balance.
So completely solo, using my own ele drain, I’m getting 33-34k max. I’m running 5 Siroria, 5 Silks (infused silks inferno; still can’t find that BSW inferno), and Zaan’s. Both staves infused and gold. Thief Mundus, only because I’ve tested with Apprentice but not getting as high, considering above setup nets me only 49% crit without thief.
So without a control, numbers are meaninglessly. Parses should be:
1. Solo (unless unable to apply Major Fracture or Breach)
2. Solo sustain, damage, buffs, debuffs
Then everyone is on the same playing field. A RAID parse is entirely different, and there you will have minor vuln, orbs, major courage, major force etc.Edited by SmellyUnlimited on June 28, 2018 7:34PMDO. NOT. WIPE. (in game OR out!)1 -
Maulkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭SmellyUnlimited wrote: »Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »Ok so update, I found 2 BSW inferno staves in my bank (I know, right? how lucky am I lol) so I'm working on rearranging my gear. When I parsed the dummy last night, I hit 27k as per usual with 5 bsw, 5IA, and 2 groth this time. Not bad but not great. The weird thing is that when I parsed twice, I got exactly zero power lash procs. Even though I was laying down rearming and doing the rotation correctly. So i'm wondering now if I should swap out power lash for molten whip (for that sweet, sweet extra burning embers damage) and replace rearming with talons on my back bar. Thoughts? Experiences? Relevant anecdotes?
No is the answer. You will get Power Lash procs in trials from the Lightning Blockades of Sorcs. Molten Whip will give you marginally higher DPS against the dummy but lower DPS and sustain in trials. So it's only useful for try-hardning the dummy otherwise it's a useless morph.
Swap IA for either Julianos or preferrably Sun on the body. And go farm Zaan, you really need just one run with some friends to get a heavy or medium head and then transmute it. The shoulders you just need to do dailies for. Easy peasy.
Go practice your rotation though. That DPS is very low unless you are low on CP. You should be hitting 35k with that build on MaxCP without problems. So it sounds like you're not keeping the DoTs up well enough.
Power Lash is BS. Much higher dps with molten whip even in trials.
@Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
It is when you use Siroria/BSW since the spelldamage is already very high and the more crit benefits more.
Any other set combo I would stick to apprentice.
I'm happy to be proven wrong with some evidence. When I swapped to Molten Whip for my dummy parses I got around 1k DPS increase. I didn't see any evidence of "much higher dps".
Care to back it up?
I don't use whip so I don't have any Raidparses from this patch.
I can however do a 6 mil dummy parse with molten whip and offbalance and then with powerlash.
Will do tomorrow.
What numbers are you pushing with powerlash?
Apologies, I didn't see your question at first glance. Nothing magical tbh, but then I don't have Siroria or at least that's my excuse
On my basic b**** setup (Zaan, Sun, BSW front, vMA back) I usually pull 40-43k DPS depending on lucky crits and fluidity of my rotation etc. etc.
Obligatory screenshot with terrible crit rate on the hardest hitting skills.
Sry, completely forgot about the parses. Beforehand I have to say these are both really bad parses, because I usually don't rund BSW on Frontbar and spend to much time on my backbar in my usual rotation. Therefore the uptime was really bad. Don't take them as a representation of the DPS possible. You can break 47k easily with this set up.
Both parses had Offbalance and minor vulnerability provided.
So, barely 43k with Powerlash:
Barely 43k with
Almost 46k with molten Whip:
Difference is almost 3k, in Raid it will only go up. Powerlash is BS.
But actually I wouldn't run any opf these. With FP I can perform way better. In this parse no Offbalance was provided and minor vulnerability only what proccs of FP:
Almost 49k. With perfect Siroria I could certainly break the 50k.
In terms of Rotation. The DK uses a fixed rotation. Don't know where you got your Magblade comparison but that sounds really weird. I personally go 4/2, when I don't need balance or get guard in the raid I go 5/3. Only thing that ever changes in my rotation.
@Maulkin
Many would call your parse above cheese. There needs to be a standard for dps parses. Using the Lover isn’t something you would do in a team combat situation, so it just artificially inflates your numbers. Numbers don’t matter anymore because you’re having someone’s provide minor vulnerability and off-balance.
So completely solo, using my own ele drain, I’m getting 33-34k max. I’m running 5 Siroria, 5 Silks (infused silks inferno; still can’t find that BSW inferno), and Zaan’s. Both staves infused and gold. Thief Mundus, only because I’ve tested with Apprentice but not getting as high, considering above setup nets me only 49% crit without thief.
So without a control, numbers are meaninglessly. Parses should be:
1. Solo (unless unable to apply Major Fracture or Breach)
2. Solo sustain, damage, buffs, debuffs
Then everyone is on the same playing field. A RAID parse is entirely different, and there you will have minor vuln, orbs, major courage, major force etc.
I think you're confused. I'm not the one who's showing parses with minor vulnerability and off-balance here. My parse is fully self-buffed down to providing my own ele-drain and not grouped with anyone.
EDIT: And I don't even have Siroria cause I haven't had much any time to raid since Summerset dropped. Here's a screenshot of a parse from 5 mins ago with Sun, BSW and Apprentice. 40-41k entirely possible without BiS sets.
Sustain sure does suck on MagDK though. 3m parses are not far off what stam pulls when BiS geared (Siroria), but the sustain in 6m ones becomes quite an issue and your DPS suffers quite a bit.
Edited by Maulkin on June 28, 2018 10:29PMEU | PC | AD1 -
arishok33✭✭SmellyUnlimited wrote: »Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »Ok so update, I found 2 BSW inferno staves in my bank (I know, right? how lucky am I lol) so I'm working on rearranging my gear. When I parsed the dummy last night, I hit 27k as per usual with 5 bsw, 5IA, and 2 groth this time. Not bad but not great. The weird thing is that when I parsed twice, I got exactly zero power lash procs. Even though I was laying down rearming and doing the rotation correctly. So i'm wondering now if I should swap out power lash for molten whip (for that sweet, sweet extra burning embers damage) and replace rearming with talons on my back bar. Thoughts? Experiences? Relevant anecdotes?
No is the answer. You will get Power Lash procs in trials from the Lightning Blockades of Sorcs. Molten Whip will give you marginally higher DPS against the dummy but lower DPS and sustain in trials. So it's only useful for try-hardning the dummy otherwise it's a useless morph.
Swap IA for either Julianos or preferrably Sun on the body. And go farm Zaan, you really need just one run with some friends to get a heavy or medium head and then transmute it. The shoulders you just need to do dailies for. Easy peasy.
Go practice your rotation though. That DPS is very low unless you are low on CP. You should be hitting 35k with that build on MaxCP without problems. So it sounds like you're not keeping the DoTs up well enough.
Power Lash is BS. Much higher dps with molten whip even in trials.
@Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
It is when you use Siroria/BSW since the spelldamage is already very high and the more crit benefits more.
Any other set combo I would stick to apprentice.
I'm happy to be proven wrong with some evidence. When I swapped to Molten Whip for my dummy parses I got around 1k DPS increase. I didn't see any evidence of "much higher dps".
Care to back it up?
I don't use whip so I don't have any Raidparses from this patch.
I can however do a 6 mil dummy parse with molten whip and offbalance and then with powerlash.
Will do tomorrow.
What numbers are you pushing with powerlash?
Apologies, I didn't see your question at first glance. Nothing magical tbh, but then I don't have Siroria or at least that's my excuse
On my basic b**** setup (Zaan, Sun, BSW front, vMA back) I usually pull 40-43k DPS depending on lucky crits and fluidity of my rotation etc. etc.
Obligatory screenshot with terrible crit rate on the hardest hitting skills.
Sry, completely forgot about the parses. Beforehand I have to say these are both really bad parses, because I usually don't rund BSW on Frontbar and spend to much time on my backbar in my usual rotation. Therefore the uptime was really bad. Don't take them as a representation of the DPS possible. You can break 47k easily with this set up.
Both parses had Offbalance and minor vulnerability provided.
So, barely 43k with Powerlash:
Barely 43k with
Almost 46k with molten Whip:
Difference is almost 3k, in Raid it will only go up. Powerlash is BS.
But actually I wouldn't run any opf these. With FP I can perform way better. In this parse no Offbalance was provided and minor vulnerability only what proccs of FP:
Almost 49k. With perfect Siroria I could certainly break the 50k.
In terms of Rotation. The DK uses a fixed rotation. Don't know where you got your Magblade comparison but that sounds really weird. I personally go 4/2, when I don't need balance or get guard in the raid I go 5/3. Only thing that ever changes in my rotation.
@Maulkin
Many would call your parse above cheese. There needs to be a standard for dps parses. Using the Lover isn’t something you would do in a team combat situation, so it just artificially inflates your numbers. Numbers don’t matter anymore because you’re having someone’s provide minor vulnerability and off-balance.
So completely solo, using my own ele drain, I’m getting 33-34k max. I’m running 5 Siroria, 5 Silks (infused silks inferno; still can’t find that BSW inferno), and Zaan’s. Both staves infused and gold. Thief Mundus, only because I’ve tested with Apprentice but not getting as high, considering above setup nets me only 49% crit without thief.
So without a control, numbers are meaninglessly. Parses should be:
1. Solo (unless unable to apply Major Fracture or Breach)
2. Solo sustain, damage, buffs, debuffs
Then everyone is on the same playing field. A RAID parse is entirely different, and there you will have minor vuln, orbs, major courage, major force etc.
For the fourth time:
It was about the difference between the whip morphs.
Which can only be shown when both debuffs are provided. X)
And the 3rd parse 48,8k was WITHOUT these debuffs...
These translate to a raid parse with my raidgroup to ~70k
That's about as high as I pull on the Raiddummy, on Valariel, Ra'kotu etc....
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✭The most important question however is one no one asked yet...why bring a magdk when stamblade/stamplar will *** on its dps?0 -
SmellyUnlimited✭✭✭✭hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »The most important question however is one no one asked yet...why bring a magdk when stamblade/stamplar will *** on its dps?
Well that’s the ultimate problem. Engulfing Flames is the only ability that offers group support. Burning talons and shackle are the only abilities MagDK has to ‘slightly’ aid the group via synergies, but one is very situational, and the other an ultimate cost of 250.
So, why bring MagDk’s? As much as I enjoy the class, it’s no more survivable than a Nightblade (unless using a cacophony of Shields/heals, but might as well be a tank at that point).
I know this thread has mostly been about gear/abilities, but @hedna123b14_ESO asks the most relevant of all questions. Why?DO. NOT. WIPE. (in game OR out!)0 -
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✭✭✭Because they can't role-play a dragon bruh!
Edited by Maulkin on June 30, 2018 12:32PMEU | PC | AD0