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Wizard's Riposte on a Stam character - would it be effective? (NON-CP)
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Pretty much what title says, I'm very curious whether this set would work with a Stamblade or Stamsorc, (after changing jewelery traits through transmutation).
I've recently read a large thread on defensive sets that pretty much states this is the Strongest Defensive set currently ingame due to how it operates. I know stamblades get their Maim from Fear but that doesn't seem to be 100% reliable.
What are your thoughts? Or do you think it would be better to just stick to Brass/Impreg?
Edited by Nyladreas on June 29, 2018 7:21AM I've recently read a large thread on defensive sets that pretty much states this is the Strongest Defensive set currently ingame due to how it operates. I know stamblades get their Maim from Fear but that doesn't seem to be 100% reliable.
What are your thoughts? Or do you think it would be better to just stick to Brass/Impreg?
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Lord-Otto✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭It wouldn't run as smoothly as on mag builds.
The set boni are not that great to begin with. And for the five piece, you must get hit - as stamina, you're rather trying to evade incoming damage.0 -
Nyladreas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭It wouldn't run as smoothly as on mag builds.
The set boni are not that great to begin with. And for the five piece, you must get hit - as stamina, you're rather trying to evade incoming damage.
Well brawler stam builds use Brass and Impregnable just fine on the frontline, that's why I thought it might work. Not to mention it offers extra Mag recovery and Health which is actually in turn more than brass. But you could be right as it requires a proc to begin with. Thanks for the response.
I might just stick to Heavy armor Or other sets
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✭✭✭✭✭It wouldn't run as smoothly as on mag builds.
The set boni are not that great to begin with. And for the five piece, you must get hit - as stamina, you're rather trying to evade incoming damage.
Well brawler stam builds use Brass and Impregnable just fine on the frontline, that's why I thought it might work. Not to mention it offers extra Mag recovery and Health which is actually in turn more than brass. But you could be right as it requires a proc to begin with. Thanks for the response.
I might just stick to Heavy armor Or other sets
I think medium brass might be better than most heavy armor sets in terms of damage, resists and cost reduction. I decided for kicks to run brass with a pirate skeleton and lord warden piece in medium. Crazy damage resist in BGs. Not worth it really but still fun.Edited by Vapirko on June 29, 2018 1:06AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Hrm Riposte weapons and jewelry so you don't have to use any light armor unless you want to.
So if it was Set A, B, + Brass vs A, B + Riposte....
Kinda have to give it to Riposte.
15% reduction on opponent's (so you don't wanna forget about helping allies!)
Vs 11-12% (wtf eva it is exactly) Brass
The health is the same
But then Riposte gives you the mag regen and spell Regen. While not particularly useful they are there.
So helps allies, mitigates more, and more stat buffs.
Unless you're trying to mix it with a set that isn't medium and you want medium, Riposte transmuted is the superior choice
Edit: or if you're getting maim somewhere elseEdited by Waffennacht on June 29, 2018 2:02AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭Why not run knightmare?
The thing about that is that you have to deal damage rather than just take it. It's only 20% chance (and melee only), and also only affects people standing practically right next to you. (While that's nice since we ARE MELEE, this doesn't really help with anyone trying to pick you off from range. And there's a lot of those.)
On the other hand it's a heavy set so on its own i might provide extra resistances if worn in 5 pieces on the body. Then it's a debate whether you'd have enough damage and recovery
Or stick to Medium Main set with Knightmare Weapon set. Interesting choices
I haven't tried it however, so if there's anyone who can give more details about the set, please do so.Edited by Nyladreas on June 29, 2018 3:36AM0 -
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TheDoomsdayMonster✭✭✭✭✭Pretty much what title says, I'm very curious whether this set would work with a Stamblade or Stamsorc, (after changing jewelery traits through transmutation).
I've recently read a large thread on defensive sets that pretty much states this is the Strongest Defensive set currently ingame due to how it operates. I know stamblades get their Maim from Fear but that doesn't seem to be 100% reliable.
What are your thoughts? Or do you think it would be better to just stick to Brass/Impreg?
I say give it a try and see how you like it...
Afterall, there have been several sets that people have said wouldn't work on a given build and its worked wonderfully...
I am all for "outside the box" builds...
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TheDoomsdayMonster✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Hrm Riposte weapons and jewelry so you don't have to use any light armor unless you want to.
So if it was Set A, B, + Brass vs A, B + Riposte....
Kinda have to give it to Riposte.
15% reduction on opponent's (so you don't wanna forget about helping allies!)
Vs 11-12% (wtf eva it is exactly) Brass
With diminishing returns in a CP environment, Riposte's mitigation can drop as low as 10% (pending how your CP's are set up)...
So Brass might be the better option (as pertains to raw mitigation) when you take into consideration all the possible factors...
Edited by TheDoomsdayMonster on June 29, 2018 6:55AMUnyeilding Bias
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✭✭✭✭TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »Hrm Riposte weapons and jewelry so you don't have to use any light armor unless you want to.
So if it was Set A, B, + Brass vs A, B + Riposte....
Kinda have to give it to Riposte.
15% reduction on opponent's (so you don't wanna forget about helping allies!)
Vs 11-12% (wtf eva it is exactly) Brass
With diminishing returns in a CP environment, Riposte's mitigation can drop as low as 10% (pending how your CP's are set up)...
So Brass might be the better option (as pertains to raw mitigation) when you take into consideration all the possible factors...
Sorry my Bad I forgot to say this is for NON CP only.
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✭✭✭✭TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »Pretty much what title says, I'm very curious whether this set would work with a Stamblade or Stamsorc, (after changing jewelery traits through transmutation).
I've recently read a large thread on defensive sets that pretty much states this is the Strongest Defensive set currently ingame due to how it operates. I know stamblades get their Maim from Fear but that doesn't seem to be 100% reliable.
What are your thoughts? Or do you think it would be better to just stick to Brass/Impreg?
I say give it a try and see how you like it...
Afterall, there have been several sets that people have said wouldn't work on a given build and its worked wonderfully...
I am all for "outside the box" builds...
Alright
thanks for the support... I'm curious how it turns out.What about impregnable and reactive armor? Should be better than flat resistance stats like fortified brass
Have you actually tried those? Reactive Armor looks sweet. Stuns are really 90% of the deaths I have lol. Then again... No resistance outside of CC.0 -
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No sry cause I'm magicka but usually good player should only die while cc especially combined with some lag's. Also I read many things about RA not only proc on stun but also on immobilize for example.Edited by ChefZero on June 29, 2018 2:57PMPC EU - DC only0 -
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No sry cause I'm magicka but usually good player should only die while cc especially combined with some lag's. Also I read many things about RA not only proc on stun but also on immobilize for example.
So both Soft and Hard CC? That sounds pretty mad OP if you're right. Thanks for the suggestion Edited by Nyladreas on June 29, 2018 8:22PM0 -
Metemsycosis✭✭✭✭If wizards did not have that spell damage line I'd say of course. Otherwise the way I look at it every line counts. There isn't one part of the build I wish to abandon unless it's due to playstyle reasons. (Frex, not caring about physical resistance in LA).
ETA: some classes could benefit from spell damage, like Templars with bol. Or sorcs and their executes. Depends on some things, in other words.Edited by Metemsycosis on June 29, 2018 6:18PMTerethea Magdalena, Breton Nightblade
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