pvp skill line

Wing · June 2018

alter revealing flare to act more like reapers mark (a targeted anti stealth and debuff) and change purge to either be far cheaper so stam classes can make use of it or make a version of it stamina in the first place.

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idk · June 2018

Efficient purge is the far cheaper morph.

GreenSoup2HoT · June 2018

idk wrote: »

Efficient purge is the far cheaper morph.

still 5100 magicka for a none light wearer is still ridiculously expensive. im all for adding in a more friendly purge option for all spec's in game. the game as it stands is just "heal though everything" and thats all that matters.

theres so many dots and debuffs in the game that its a wonder why there isnt more sources of purge in this game.

like back in the day dark cloak for nightblade used to purge dots and debuffs back when there was hardly anybody using dots/debuffs like today. i wish it would make a comeback.

medium Armour users in general need purge since everything seems to be undogdeable. pretty much why heavy is regarded as the better option since dodgerolling feels like a waste of resources compared to just tanking/healing/shielding through the damage.

Silver_Strider · June 2018

Both Assault and Support could benefit from some touching up.

Siege shield should prevent the lingering AoE from Catapults, even if just as a Morph option.
Echoing Vigor should be reworked to be a self purge effect (This makes the morph options more meaningful between a stronger self heal or a weaker self heal+purge)
Remove the cast time on base Det and Inevitable Det so they aren't so...meh in comparison to Proxy Det.
Make Efficiency purge's cost the base cost with Cleanse retaining its healing effect and Efficiency removing more negative effects.
Barrier should cover 12 people.

Danksta · June 2018

But if Purge was far cheaper Nightblades would run it so they could cleanse your Revealing Flare/Reaper's Mark.

Silver_Strider · June 2018

Danksta wrote: »

But if Purge was far cheaper Nightblades would run it so they could cleanse your Revealing Flare/Reaper's Mark.

Efficient Purge costs 4.8k Magic.
Flare costs 1.7k
Mark is 2.4k

You will run out of magic spamming Purge in an attempt to remove Flare/Mark because there is no guarantee that you'll remove those effects, especially in PvP when you have PI/Sloads/Curses/Snares/Bleeds/etc. on you practically 24/7 that even if by some grace of god you are able to remove Mark/Flare with Purge, you'll immediately get marked up again instantly and have to roll the dice again.

Sordidfairytale · June 2018

Silver_Strider wrote: »

Both Assault and Support could benefit from some touching up.

Make Efficiency purge's cost the base cost with Cleanse retaining its healing effect and Efficiency removing more negative effects.

Cleanse should lose the heal and instead become a stam morph of eff purge.

Leandor · June 2018

Nonono. Even more of this "let every playstyle be the same" crap? No.

Retain the magicka cost but increase the number of purged effects on efficient. Retain the heal and number of purged effects (2) but decrease the cost on cleanse.

Silver_Strider · June 2018

Sordidfairytale wrote: »

Silver_Strider wrote: »

Both Assault and Support could benefit from some touching up.

Make Efficiency purge's cost the base cost with Cleanse retaining its healing effect and Efficiency removing more negative effects.

Cleanse should lose the heal and instead become a stam morph of eff purge.

But why though if Echoing Vigor becomes a self cleansing effect as I suggested? I personally like the healing effect of Cleanse, my only problem with the skill is its insane cost but if Cleanse cost the same as Efficiency, I'd absolutely use it more often.

Taleof2Cities · June 2018

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Efficient purge is the far cheaper morph.

still 5100 magicka for a none light wearer is still ridiculously expensive. im all for adding in a more friendly purge option for all spec's in game. the game as it stands is just "heal though everything" and thats all that matters.

theres so many dots and debuffs in the game that its a wonder why there isnt more sources of purge in this game.

like back in the day dark cloak for nightblade used to purge dots and debuffs back when there was hardly anybody using dots/debuffs like today. i wish it would make a comeback.

medium Armour users in general need purge since everything seems to be undogdeable. pretty much why heavy is regarded as the better option since dodgerolling feels like a waste of resources compared to just tanking/healing/shielding through the damage.

If theorycrafting efficient purge into your build is "impossible", you should bring a healer with you to PvP ... instead of whining in the forums that your build can't do everything.

GreenSoup2HoT · July 2018

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

idk wrote: »

Efficient purge is the far cheaper morph.

still 5100 magicka for a none light wearer is still ridiculously expensive. im all for adding in a more friendly purge option for all spec's in game. the game as it stands is just "heal though everything" and thats all that matters.

theres so many dots and debuffs in the game that its a wonder why there isnt more sources of purge in this game.

like back in the day dark cloak for nightblade used to purge dots and debuffs back when there was hardly anybody using dots/debuffs like today. i wish it would make a comeback.

medium Armour users in general need purge since everything seems to be undogdeable. pretty much why heavy is regarded as the better option since dodgerolling feels like a waste of resources compared to just tanking/healing/shielding through the damage.

If theorycrafting efficient purge into your build is "impossible", you should bring a healer with you to PvP ... instead of whining in the forums that your build can't do everything.

I have theorycrafted efficient purge into 1 of my builds. Im 1 of the few testing it out.

Get out of here with that "whining" bs.

Wing · July 2018

wow usually people just talk crap, glad to see some ideas being thrown around.

I personally use the blue betty on my warden because its a 0 cost skill you can spam to remove negative effects.

but yeah more sources of cleanse would be nice I just suggested a better purge because its available to everyone regardless of class.

Sordidfairytale · July 2018

Silver_Strider wrote: »

Sordidfairytale wrote: »

Silver_Strider wrote: »

Both Assault and Support could benefit from some touching up.

Make Efficiency purge's cost the base cost with Cleanse retaining its healing effect and Efficiency removing more negative effects.

Cleanse should lose the heal and instead become a stam morph of eff purge.

But why though if Echoing Vigor becomes a self cleansing effect as I suggested? I personally like the healing effect of Cleanse, my only problem with the skill is its insane cost but if Cleanse cost the same as Efficiency, I'd absolutely use it more often.

Eh, you end up changing one skill either way. Disregard what I said.