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Massive bot farm PS4 NA

Tholian1
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So I’m doing the quest in Camlorn, “A Lingering Hope” and once I enter to find Darien, the place is a war zone with botSorcs and their pets farming werewolves. Why are these bots still a thing and why does ZoS allow these bot farmers to get rich by cheating?
PS4 Pro NA
  • JamieAubrey
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    All they will tell you to do is report and move on sadly
  • Tasear
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    Report them so they can be removed.
  • Tholian1
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    The reporting tool asks for a name, and they were too densely packed and too numerous.
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  • DuskMarine
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    Tasear wrote: »
    Report them so they can be removed.

    they never remove them though..............? weve been reporting bots in glenumbras swamp and in various other places on pc na forever and their still there
  • Tasear
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    DuskMarine wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Report them so they can be removed.

    they never remove them though..............? weve been reporting bots in glenumbras swamp and in various other places on pc na forever and their still there

    How sure are you that it's same bots?
  • lelink88
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    how can u use BoT on Ps4 ? U cant even us addon. I'm really confuse. Ps4 allow u run multple acc at the same time ?
    Edited by lelink88 on June 27, 2018 5:28AM
  • Fury091014
    Probably just some people grinding farming drops or something, Most americans aren't used to the black desert online Korean play style of grinding in one spot for 10+ hours. Thank god I quit that game, Though I agree they cant bot on a ps4 and you are right that we can not even use UI mods like the PC so what gives?
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  • Gprime31
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    On pcna too usually in shadowfen
  • CiliPadi
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    Yeah just report them. Might take ZOS a couple of months to get to it.
  • NordSwordnBoard
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    Keep reporting them, it finally got rid of the bot stack I reported in Rivenspire.
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  • Pixel_Zealot
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    Tasear wrote: »
    DuskMarine wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Report them so they can be removed.

    they never remove them though..............? weve been reporting bots in glenumbras swamp and in various other places on pc na forever and their still there

    How sure are you that it's same bots?

    Why do they ban accounts instead of finding out what exe is running in the background?
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  • Lunaugh
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    Tasear wrote: »
    DuskMarine wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Report them so they can be removed.

    they never remove them though..............? weve been reporting bots in glenumbras swamp and in various other places on pc na forever and their still there

    How sure are you that it's same bots?

    Why do they ban accounts instead of finding out what exe is running in the background?

    While I get the sentiment, I feel like this statement lacks consideration for the scope a work-a-round can take. As far as the game is concerned, it can be receiving inputs from a mouse and keyboard, no alien/third party input whatsoever while it is truly being played by a pixel-bot.

    Lets say you see a bot-stack that is more intelligent than should be possible as no group of 10+ players could synchronize so perfectly with latency issues included in the equation.
    One individual can have a wireless keyboard and mouse providing inputs to 10+computers. This would result in one player controlling a bot-stack with one set of inputs not traceable by the client.

    I imagine whoever embraces the single input bot stack would utilize a single machine and hack it to run multiple instances of ESO and link the inputs, but You get the idea.
    dataOutput ={ }
    function: ConvertMagica (dataOutput, magicaInput, skill,fn)
    >>> if skill then do
    >>>>>> magicaInput = fn(skill)
    >>>>>>table.insert(dataOutput, magicaInput)
    >>>end
    end
  • DenMoria
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    Ain't the bots that bother me, it's the level 750 folks fighting each other and stealing all the resources and trunks in the starter areas just 'cause... well... they can. One more flaming creep and I'm gonna scream!
    Tholian1 wrote: »
    So I’m doing the quest in Camlorn, “A Lingering Hope” and once I enter to find Darien, the place is a war zone with botSorcs and their pets farming werewolves. Why are these bots still a thing and why does ZoS allow these bot farmers to get rich by cheating?

  • strangeradnd
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    DenMoria wrote: »
    Ain't the bots that bother me, it's the level 750 folks fighting each other and stealing all the resources and trunks in the starter areas just 'cause... well... they can. One more flaming creep and I'm gonna scream!
    Tholian1 wrote: »
    So I’m doing the quest in Camlorn, “A Lingering Hope” and once I enter to find Darien, the place is a war zone with botSorcs and their pets farming werewolves. Why are these bots still a thing and why does ZoS allow these bot farmers to get rich by cheating?

    A level cap to access nodes in a starter zone sounds like a good idea. Level 50 or any active cp and nodes only drop lock picks.
  • shadowwraith666
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    Tasear wrote: »
    DuskMarine wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Report them so they can be removed.

    they never remove them though..............? weve been reporting bots in glenumbras swamp and in various other places on pc na forever and their still there

    How sure are you that it's same bots?

    Why do they ban accounts instead of finding out what exe is running in the background?

    this is on console, the only programs running is the game itself and the OS
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  • dotme
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    The console reporting process is designed to make it nearly impossible to report anything.
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  • DuskMarine
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    Tasear wrote: »
    DuskMarine wrote: »
    Tasear wrote: »
    Report them so they can be removed.

    they never remove them though..............? weve been reporting bots in glenumbras swamp and in various other places on pc na forever and their still there

    How sure are you that it's same bots?

    same exact names we gave up on reporting them cause they wont remove them
  • weedgenius
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    Saw my first bot farmers in action the other day on PS4 NA!! They were farming in Auridon southwest of Shattered Grove, west of Mathiisen. About 25-30 pet sorcs farming bears and all of them with user/character names like "saeagredstwb" and "cafagnregke." At first I didn't realize wtf was happening but then I noticed that a third of the time they were firing light attacks into an empty patch of grass. I reported them all. Stuck around for a bit and noticed some (real) people trying to do the quest in the area. Must have been a pain for them.
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  • griffkhalifa
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    Frankly I don't really understand why people care about bots. I get that aesthetically it's kind of stupid to see a group of "players" performing the same mechanic over and over, but how does it materially affect how you play the game?
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  • SugaComa
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    Fury091014 wrote: »
    Probably just some people grinding farming drops or something, Most americans aren't used to the black desert online Korean play style of grinding in one spot for 10+ hours. Thank god I quit that game, Though I agree they cant bot on a ps4 and you are right that we can not even use UI mods like the PC so what gives?

    https://youtu.be/9p3HlRp-ncs

    Look at this and tell.me that's the Koreans
  • SugaComa
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    Frankly I don't really understand why people care about bots. I get that aesthetically it's kind of stupid to see a group of "players" performing the same mechanic over and over, but how does it materially affect how you play the game?

    It artificially inflates prices on materials .. thus impacting my game play
  • Lunaugh
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    Frankly I don't really understand why people care about bots. I get that aesthetically it's kind of stupid to see a group of "players" performing the same mechanic over and over, but how does it materially affect how you play the game?

    The most valuable quark in a game of this nature is time. It takes time for a person to grind. One person controlling a bot can grind full inventories of 20 characters simultaneously; thats 20x faster than the normal player who abides fair expectation of play.

    One person grinding trashloot for 1 hour the selling inventory to a merchent might equal 1-10k.
    One bot group doing the same behavior now nets between 20k-200k in the same time allotted.

    I buy exp scrolls because I’m frustrated by the amount of time it takes to level up; bot farmers are offensive to me.

    Botfarmers steal money from ZOS; by allowinf players to spend money to buy gold from private sites, the player bypasses the crown store (where they would spend their money on something like a crownscroll) and gets a load of gold, which is only supposed to be available by playing/grinding. Its illegal p2w
    Edited by Lunaugh on June 27, 2018 6:04PM
    dataOutput ={ }
    function: ConvertMagica (dataOutput, magicaInput, skill,fn)
    >>> if skill then do
    >>>>>> magicaInput = fn(skill)
    >>>>>>table.insert(dataOutput, magicaInput)
    >>>end
    end
  • Tholian1
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    weedgenius wrote: »
    Saw my first bot farmers in action the other day on PS4 NA!! They were farming in Auridon southwest of Shattered Grove, west of Mathiisen. About 25-30 pet sorcs farming bears and all of them with user/character names like "saeagredstwb" and "cafagnregke." At first I didn't realize wtf was happening but then I noticed that a third of the time they were firing light attacks into an empty patch of grass. I reported them all. Stuck around for a bit and noticed some (real) people trying to do the quest in the area. Must have been a pain for them.

    The “bots” I encountered in Camlorn had names like that as well. I had to almost blindly try and get my quota of werewolf kills so I could advance my quest and I am not patient enough to make dozens of reports.

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  • Delgent
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    It's just another combat "feature"...
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  • griffkhalifa
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    SugaComa wrote: »
    Frankly I don't really understand why people care about bots. I get that aesthetically it's kind of stupid to see a group of "players" performing the same mechanic over and over, but how does it materially affect how you play the game?

    It artificially inflates prices on materials .. thus impacting my game play

    How do prices artificially inflate? If there are more materials due to the automatic farming, prices would go down, would they not?
    Lunaugh wrote: »
    Frankly I don't really understand why people care about bots. I get that aesthetically it's kind of stupid to see a group of "players" performing the same mechanic over and over, but how does it materially affect how you play the game?

    The most valuable quark in a game of this nature is time. It takes time for a person to grind. One person controlling a bot can grind full inventories of 20 characters simultaneously; thats 20x faster than the normal player who abides fair expectation of play.

    One person grinding trashloot for 1 hour the selling inventory to a merchent might equal 1-10k.
    One bot group doing the same behavior now nets between 20k-200k in the same time allotted.

    I buy exp scrolls because I’m frustrated by the amount of time it takes to level up; bot farmers are offensive to me.

    Botfarmers steal money from ZOS; by allowinf players to spend money to buy gold from private sites, the player bypasses the crown store (where they would spend their money on something like a crownscroll) and gets a load of gold, which is only supposed to be available by playing/grinding. Its illegal p2w

    I think I made the wrong impression with my post. I'm not advocating for bots. I just think people let it get to their heads too much, which is really the only way it affects you. It really doesn't impact your gameplay.

    That being said, I really don't understand why it's so hard for ZOS to ban these people.
    PS4 NA
  • Fury091014
    SugaComa wrote: »
    Fury091014 wrote: »
    Probably just some people grinding farming drops or something, Most americans aren't used to the black desert online Korean play style of grinding in one spot for 10+ hours. Thank god I quit that game, Though I agree they cant bot on a ps4 and you are right that we can not even use UI mods like the PC so what gives?

    https://youtu.be/9p3HlRp-ncs

    Look at this and tell.me that's the Koreans

    I can grind for hours, I used to play BDO but I see in the video they are all kissing each others butts lol yeah looks like a botter to me
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  • Tholian1
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    lelink88 wrote: »
    how can u use BoT on Ps4 ? U cant even us addon. I'm really confuse. Ps4 allow u run multple acc at the same time ?

    Well if they aren’t bots in the traditional sense, they are at least a very large group of players with gibberish names standing in one spot and taking advantage of the quick respawn of the werewolves. The only things moving around are their pets.
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  • Yzalirk
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    Yeah, I see bots quite often too. I usually see them in the Alik’r Desert though. I reported a few a couple days back but I severely doubt anything happened to them.

    From my experience, they are usually High Elves with a non-customized default look and a weird character “name.” I use the word name loosely here as they are just a mishmash of letters. And they are always together in one of three locations - merchant, banker, or running around farming.
  • Pink_Violinz
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    There were a billion back in Bleakrock on PS4 NA the other day. I tried to report as many as I could but the way the report system is designed it's almost like they don't want people reporting.
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    Fury091014 wrote: »
    Probably just some people grinding farming drops or something, Most americans aren't used to the black desert online Korean play style of grinding in one spot for 10+ hours. Thank god I quit that game, Though I agree they cant bot on a ps4 and you are right that we can not even use UI mods like the PC so what gives?
    Bots on consoles tend to be rubberbanding HA or perhaps controllers who support macros so you can do AoE rotations.
    Very visible as in ball group attacking blindly in all directions.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
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