Transmute Crystal Crown store packs

Lapin_Logic · June 2018

Transmute crystal crown store packs would be a nice addition to help when you need to quickly re-trait something and for those of us without a lot of time to farm.

Transmuted items are bound so will not affect the market.

Aliyavana · June 2018

inc p2w comments. The store already has convenience items and transmute crystals are not vma weapons or something that will give you 5k dps so I don't have anything against it

redspecter23 · June 2018

I'm not against the idea. I usually just go spend 20 minutes in Vivec and collect 50 at the end of the month, but sure. If people want to buy them, I won't object. I would like to see slightly higher number dropping from PvE content, but it's a smaller concern that becomes a bit of a larger concern if they start selling them for real world money.

Lapin_Logic · June 2018

Aliyavana wrote: »

inc p2w comments

We all know every set is balanced

seriously tho, its all available in game anyway and PVP monthly dudes have geodes falling out of their pooper Alcast, made a vid.

I do a dungeon (if i ever get time) and get 4 sparkly crystals

VaranisArano · June 2018

Or you could PVP for 25k AP on however many characters you want and make 50 stones at the end of a 30-day campaign on each character. Sure, you won't get them right away, but you'll build up a major stockpile by doing so, and 25k AP is not hard to earn.

Sorry, I'm practically swimming in transmute stones at this point, thanks to just regularly PVPing.

kargen27 · June 2018

VaranisArano wrote: »

Or you could PVP for 25k AP on however many characters you want and make 50 stones at the end of a 30-day campaign on each character. Sure, you won't get them right away, but you'll build up a major stockpile by doing so, and 25k AP is not hard to earn.

Sorry, I'm practically swimming in transmute stones at this point, thanks to just regularly PVPing.

I'm not swimming in stones but I do have a hell of a lot of Rewards for the Worthy sitting in my mail because I can only open one per day. Could be worse though I suppose... I could be one of those PvE only players.

redspecter23 · June 2018

VaranisArano wrote: »

Or you could PVP for 25k AP on however many characters you want and make 50 stones at the end of a 30-day campaign on each character. Sure, you won't get them right away, but you'll build up a major stockpile by doing so, and 25k AP is not hard to earn.

Sorry, I'm practically swimming in transmute stones at this point, thanks to just regularly PVPing.

That's definitely an easy way to acquire stones and I'm sure every player that enjoys pvp at least slightly will do just that. From a marketing point of view, ZOS is losing out on tons of money from a massive amount of players that hate pvp (for whatever reason) and just can't get a reasonable number from PvE content. There is a niche subset of players that would drop massive cash on this in the store.

driosketch · June 2018

Earn 25,000 AP once a month on your alts, open the mails on a mule, crafter, or both, and save the geodues up. A little work up front, and you'll never have to worry about it later.

It takes 50 crystals to retrait one item, and the cap is 100, (200 with ESO+). It's inconvenient under the current system for crown crystal packs. Have them remove the cap first. Plus, I'm not going to spend $15 per item, because let's be real with expectations of ZOS's pricing, when they're easy enough to stock up for free.

Stovahkiin · June 2018

Aliyavana wrote: »

inc p2w comments

Tats p2w

VaranisArano · June 2018

redspecter23 wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Or you could PVP for 25k AP on however many characters you want and make 50 stones at the end of a 30-day campaign on each character. Sure, you won't get them right away, but you'll build up a major stockpile by doing so, and 25k AP is not hard to earn.

Sorry, I'm practically swimming in transmute stones at this point, thanks to just regularly PVPing.

That's definitely an easy way to acquire stones and I'm sure every player that enjoys pvp at least slightly will do just that. From a marketing point of view, ZOS is losing out on tons of money from a massive amount of players that hate pvp (for whatever reason) and just can't get a reasonable number from PvE content. There is a niche subset of players that would drop massive cash on this in the store.

You can buy repair kits for gold, and repair your home keeps without ever having to PVP. Sure, that'd be a boring and moderately expensive way to buy your way to end of the campaign rewards, but you can do it.

AlnilamE · June 2018

redspecter23 wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Or you could PVP for 25k AP on however many characters you want and make 50 stones at the end of a 30-day campaign on each character. Sure, you won't get them right away, but you'll build up a major stockpile by doing so, and 25k AP is not hard to earn.

Sorry, I'm practically swimming in transmute stones at this point, thanks to just regularly PVPing.

That's definitely an easy way to acquire stones and I'm sure every player that enjoys pvp at least slightly will do just that. From a marketing point of view, ZOS is losing out on tons of money from a massive amount of players that hate pvp (for whatever reason) and just can't get a reasonable number from PvE content. There is a niche subset of players that would drop massive cash on this in the store.

There is not massive amount of end game players (who are the ones that really need retraiting, the rest of us can just deal with whatever traits until we get stones) that hate PvP. They are totally willing to go into Cyrodiil and get Caltrops/Vigor/Purge/Warhorn on all their characters. They will not mind doing a quick run to get transmute crystals.

You will need to find another excuse.

dem0n1k · June 2018

I just wish we could trade / give away transmute stones because like everyone that does some PVP, I am swimming in the damn things! I recently deleted a character that still had 25 gold uncracked geodes in his inventory because there was no way to move them out of his inventory except to crack them & I was already at the 200 stone cap.

I don't need them so it's not that big a deal for me to delete them.. but it seems like waste when other players obviously want them!

redspecter23 · June 2018

AlnilamE wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Or you could PVP for 25k AP on however many characters you want and make 50 stones at the end of a 30-day campaign on each character. Sure, you won't get them right away, but you'll build up a major stockpile by doing so, and 25k AP is not hard to earn.

Sorry, I'm practically swimming in transmute stones at this point, thanks to just regularly PVPing.

That's definitely an easy way to acquire stones and I'm sure every player that enjoys pvp at least slightly will do just that. From a marketing point of view, ZOS is losing out on tons of money from a massive amount of players that hate pvp (for whatever reason) and just can't get a reasonable number from PvE content. There is a niche subset of players that would drop massive cash on this in the store.

There is not massive amount of end game players (who are the ones that really need retraiting, the rest of us can just deal with whatever traits until we get stones) that hate PvP. They are totally willing to go into Cyrodiil and get Caltrops/Vigor/Purge/Warhorn on all their characters. They will not mind doing a quick run to get transmute crystals.

You will need to find another excuse.

Not so much an excuse for myself. I definitely do pvp for my transmute stones. I'm just putting myself in the mind of someone who really hates pvp so much that they don't even want to go to Cyrodiil and they also have lots of money to spend on the game. It doesn't bother me if they want to spend money on transmute stones instead of a small amount of time. They will likely drop $15 - $20 for 50 of them and walk away happy. Never underestimate the things that some people will spend money on. Until today, I never thought that crown motifs were all that popular, but apparently tons of people dropped nearly $100 of a pair of them earlier. I'd never do it, but certainly many will.

JaZ2091 · June 2018

Another "Can you put this in the Crown Store so I can buy it for $40, please ZoS." Sad. Then it'll be Trials sets, Monster sets, and Gold material packs lined up in the store.

firedrgn · June 2018

I just run a healer in pvp get 20k ap and hope for reward at end of campain. Dungeons just dont drop enough.

ResTandRespeC · June 2018

Just personally not a big fan of the idea. The current system was implemented as both a fail safe measure and as a way to be able to spend less time farming and more time doing content that you'd rather be doing. The idea of selling them in the crown store just leaves a bad taste in my mouth . Would just be one more step down a path I'm not really fond of the game taking.

Heimpai · June 2018

AlnilamE wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Or you could PVP for 25k AP on however many characters you want and make 50 stones at the end of a 30-day campaign on each character. Sure, you won't get them right away, but you'll build up a major stockpile by doing so, and 25k AP is not hard to earn.

Sorry, I'm practically swimming in transmute stones at this point, thanks to just regularly PVPing.

That's definitely an easy way to acquire stones and I'm sure every player that enjoys pvp at least slightly will do just that. From a marketing point of view, ZOS is losing out on tons of money from a massive amount of players that hate pvp (for whatever reason) and just can't get a reasonable number from PvE content. There is a niche subset of players that would drop massive cash on this in the store.

There is not massive amount of end game players (who are the ones that really need retraiting, the rest of us can just deal with whatever traits until we get stones) that hate PvP. They are totally willing to go into Cyrodiil and get Caltrops/Vigor/Purge/Warhorn on all their characters. They will not mind doing a quick run to get transmute crystals.

You will need to find another excuse.

I have one char 50 only played a couple of months and I’ve gone through 700+ easy, now i got more gear to retrait and still another set needed at some point..but now i have to wait a month for 100 that’s only 2 pieces

Now idc either way is fine by me but vet dungeons will have to deal with me not having the right traits until i can upgrade

JumpmanLane · June 2018

Just PvP. With the tier rewards and all the ones from rewards of the worthy I have too many as it is. I’ve got friends who even destroy them. Just PvP. Geeze.

D0PAMINE · June 2018

redspecter23 wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Or you could PVP for 25k AP on however many characters you want and make 50 stones at the end of a 30-day campaign on each character. Sure, you won't get them right away, but you'll build up a major stockpile by doing so, and 25k AP is not hard to earn.

Sorry, I'm practically swimming in transmute stones at this point, thanks to just regularly PVPing.

That's definitely an easy way to acquire stones and I'm sure every player that enjoys pvp at least slightly will do just that. From a marketing point of view, ZOS is losing out on tons of money from a massive amount of players that hate pvp (for whatever reason) and just can't get a reasonable number from PvE content. There is a niche subset of players that would drop massive cash on this in the store.

I have friends who hate pvp and then ask if I wanna go farm telvar or something. I think a lot of pure pve'rs dont mind going into Cyrodiil as long as they have a group to guide them.

redspecter23 · June 2018

D0PAMINE wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Or you could PVP for 25k AP on however many characters you want and make 50 stones at the end of a 30-day campaign on each character. Sure, you won't get them right away, but you'll build up a major stockpile by doing so, and 25k AP is not hard to earn.

Sorry, I'm practically swimming in transmute stones at this point, thanks to just regularly PVPing.

That's definitely an easy way to acquire stones and I'm sure every player that enjoys pvp at least slightly will do just that. From a marketing point of view, ZOS is losing out on tons of money from a massive amount of players that hate pvp (for whatever reason) and just can't get a reasonable number from PvE content. There is a niche subset of players that would drop massive cash on this in the store.

I have friends who hate pvp and then ask if I wanna go farm telvar or something. I think a lot of pure pve'rs dont mind going into Cyrodiil as long as they have a group to guide them.

Very true. I'm not a hardcore pvp player, but I can grab a few friends and flag a few resources a couple times a month for rewards if needed. These store bought transmute stones would be for a very niche crowd. I think we all know there are some people out there dead set against pvp in any form. The easy solution is to tell these people to "just go pvp" which is what I keep seeing in this thread. That just isn't a good answer for this niche crowd. They would rather push the much easier button and buy them from the store. I could also tell people how to make 500k - a few million gold a week and just buy the new motif pages, but as I noted, there are still plenty of players willing to push the easy button and get them from the store. This applies to pretty much anything that is available in game and in the store. Someone, somewhere will find the store to be their path of least resistance.

ResTandRespeC · June 2018

redspecter23 wrote: »

D0PAMINE wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Or you could PVP for 25k AP on however many characters you want and make 50 stones at the end of a 30-day campaign on each character. Sure, you won't get them right away, but you'll build up a major stockpile by doing so, and 25k AP is not hard to earn.

Sorry, I'm practically swimming in transmute stones at this point, thanks to just regularly PVPing.

That's definitely an easy way to acquire stones and I'm sure every player that enjoys pvp at least slightly will do just that. From a marketing point of view, ZOS is losing out on tons of money from a massive amount of players that hate pvp (for whatever reason) and just can't get a reasonable number from PvE content. There is a niche subset of players that would drop massive cash on this in the store.

I have friends who hate pvp and then ask if I wanna go farm telvar or something. I think a lot of pure pve'rs dont mind going into Cyrodiil as long as they have a group to guide them.

Very true. I'm not a hardcore pvp player, but I can grab a few friends and flag a few resources a couple times a month for rewards if needed. These store bought transmute stones would be for a very niche crowd. I think we all know there are some people out there dead set against pvp in any form. The easy solution is to tell these people to "just go pvp" which is what I keep seeing in this thread. That just isn't a good answer for this niche crowd. They would rather push the much easier button and buy them from the store. I could also tell people how to make 500k - a few million gold a week and just buy the new motif pages, but as I noted, there are still plenty of players willing to push the easy button and get them from the store. This applies to pretty much anything that is available in game and in the store. Someone, somewhere will find the store to be their path of least resistance.

Heimpai wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

redspecter23 wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Or you could PVP for 25k AP on however many characters you want and make 50 stones at the end of a 30-day campaign on each character. Sure, you won't get them right away, but you'll build up a major stockpile by doing so, and 25k AP is not hard to earn.

Sorry, I'm practically swimming in transmute stones at this point, thanks to just regularly PVPing.

That's definitely an easy way to acquire stones and I'm sure every player that enjoys pvp at least slightly will do just that. From a marketing point of view, ZOS is losing out on tons of money from a massive amount of players that hate pvp (for whatever reason) and just can't get a reasonable number from PvE content. There is a niche subset of players that would drop massive cash on this in the store.

There is not massive amount of end game players (who are the ones that really need retraiting, the rest of us can just deal with whatever traits until we get stones) that hate PvP. They are totally willing to go into Cyrodiil and get Caltrops/Vigor/Purge/Warhorn on all their characters. They will not mind doing a quick run to get transmute crystals.

You will need to find another excuse.

I have one char 50 only played a couple of months and I’ve gone through 700+ easy, now i got more gear to retrait and still another set needed at some point..but now i have to wait a month for 100 that’s only 2 pieces

Now idc either way is fine by me but vet dungeons will have to deal with me not having the right traits until i can upgrade

That was never the way this system was intended to be used unfortunately. It isn't a way to remove the grind, its a way to make sure you get what you need. With the old system there was no way guaranty you'd get that sharpened vma/bsw inferno staff in 1000 runs+. What this system made possible was to make it so if you had incredibly bad luck and could only get a bad trait you would have the opportunity to transmute it. What it wasnt intended to be was a system where, for every set you need, you could run the content a few times and come out with an entire set you could then easily transmute. Now to be fair, i have done just that with my siroria for example. Spent 800 crystals in a week and i still have stuff to transmute. But thats the beauty of the system, it enables you to cut down the grind! Soon ill have enough to transmute my relequen legs that i just cant seem to get in divines! In the meantime ill keep trying to get them, and if i happen to ill be able to shorten the next grind.

Asardes · June 2018

This will be P2W for sure, since traits do make quite a bit of a difference, especially on weapons. On the other had crystals are easy enough to farm.
- PvP is the most efficient way to do it: guaranteed geode in 1st RFTW mail per day per account, with a fair chance for geodes in subsequent ones, 10/50 at the end of the 7/30 day campaign you're in provided you managed to do at least 25K AP, which is trivial an can be done in as little as 30 minutes even if you're a total starchy tuber at PvP.
- or do some or even all normal trials over multiple characters, since they give 5-10 each. Finding PuG groups is easy in Craglorn, bigger DLC areas and capital cities.
- even pledges crystals give better rewards now with 4-5 on average from each purple geode.
You can generate 100+ per week just playing the game using those methods so I see no reason to make it even easier, or making them purchasable with IRL money.

Banana · June 2018

Id buy em

Chaos2088 · June 2018

They are very easy to get in game, just go do PvP....

Peekachu99 · June 2018

I’m fine with this. It really is tedious after a while and there are so many combinations and adjustments needed with every major update, multiplied by the number of toons you play.

Turelus · June 2018

I could see it and wouldn't be annoyed at it for any balance sense.

I think the only reason I would be against it is that it makes more "progression" linked to spending money rather than investing time and effort. I personally wouldn't buy them because they can be obtained within the game (without too much hassle) so it would be a waste of money for me.

ResTandRespeC · June 2018

Turelus wrote: »

I could see it and wouldn't be annoyed at it for any balance sense.

I think the only reason I would be against it is that it makes more "progression" linked to spending money rather than investing time and effort. I personally wouldn't buy them because they can be obtained within the game (without too much hassle) so it would be a waste of money for me.

That is exactly why i dont like the idea. Moving the game towards putting means of progression in the crown store is a slippery slope.

Defilted · June 2018

I get so many crystals in game, I do not understand the need to pay for them in the crown store. I have so many unopened Geodes now that they are clogging up inventory space.

alainjbrennanb16_ESO · June 2018

Lapin_Logic wrote: »

Transmute crystal crown store packs would be a nice addition to help when you need to quickly re-trait something and for those of us without a lot of time to farm.

Transmuted items are bound so will not affect the market.

oh god no!! for hell no!! this is taking it down p2w seen this before in other mmo's, if it comes in really not good, ie: swtor

Facefister · June 2018

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