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Psijic Motif drop rate

LadyLethalla
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From the Patch Notes:
The Psijic Motif chapters (or very rarely, the full book) will come from adventuring around Summerset.

Activities that may reward a Psijic Motif chapter are, in order of most to least likely:
Completing Abyssal Geysers
Killing World Bosses
Completing Abyssal Pools
Treasure Chests (with higher-difficulty locks being more likely, and easier locks being less likely)
Killing Delve bosses
Killing monsters
The chance to obtain a Psijic Motif chapter or book from these sources increases with your rank in the Psijic Order skill line, with Rank 10 giving you a ten times increase over those not versed in the ways of the Psijic Order.


I've finished the Main quest, the Psijic quest, done all the delves, world bosses and geysers etc while doing dailies, and I've received a grand total of one Psijic drop.
Anyone else had such abysmal luck?
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  • Nyghthowler
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    I have you beat; I haven't had ANY drop yet :|
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  • Leandor
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    The only source of psijic motivs so far for me is treasure chests. Never seen one on geysers, pools or any monster drops. I've gone through 5 chars up to psijic 10, have done maybe around 50 world bosses, gone through all delves and public dungeons aplenty.

    Just take a psijic 10, legerdemain 20 and treasure hunter passive activated char to chest farm.
  • TheCyberDruid
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    I got a few of them (5 or 6) and can confirm that they drop (at least) from chests, geysers and world bosses. The drop rate seems to be around the same as Buoyant Armiger, but it drops from more sources.
  • Leandor
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    I got a few of them (5 or 6) and can confirm that they drop (at least) from chests, geysers and world bosses. The drop rate seems to be around the same as Buoyant Armiger, but it drops from more sources.

    Must be fairly different for each. I have never found a single buoyant armiger until the anniversary event, where I got all actually. One single page afterwards.

    Psijic has been good for me, only missing helmets and had 5 duplicates that I sold while the prices were still in the upper 5 digits...
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    I got 12 from geysers and 1 from a psijic portal.

    They're not really that rare, just look at the prices in guild stores.

  • hamsterontherocksb16_ESO
    Is it me or are the Psijic portals missing in the list form OP?
    Where are the portals in ranking?
  • Leandor
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    Is it me or are the Psijic portals missing in the list form OP?
    Where are the portals in ranking?

    Psijic portals on summerset. In other areas, you get the local ones, i.e. Vvardenfell would have the morrowind motifs, gold coast the dark brotherhood motifs, hew's bane TG, etc. Classic zones would have the purple books from vanilla ESO.
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    I copied my OP off the Patch Notes; it did mention that Psijic Portals have a chance to drop motif pages from the specific zone, such as Ebonshadow etc from CWC portals, BA in VVardenfell etc. So yes it should be in the list.

    @Nyghthowler my commiserations :(


    I've had better luck with Sapiarch - only another 4 needed. So far no Pyandonean either other than in the free crates (and two of the four I got were doubles -_-)


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  • hamsterontherocksb16_ESO
    I copied my OP off the Patch Notes; it did mention that Psijic Portals have a chance to drop motif pages from the specific zone, such as Ebonshadow etc from CWC portals, BA in VVardenfell etc. So yes it should be in the list.

    But does anyone know where they are in the ranking?
  • LadyLethalla
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    I copied my OP off the Patch Notes; it did mention that Psijic Portals have a chance to drop motif pages from the specific zone, such as Ebonshadow etc from CWC portals, BA in VVardenfell etc. So yes it should be in the list.

    But does anyone know where they are in the ranking?

    I don't believe it's mentioned in the Natch Potes. @ZOS_GinaBruno ?
    Edited by LadyLethalla on June 27, 2018 5:55AM
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  • Troneon
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    The drop rate is AWFUL. Even with Rank 10.
    Edited by Troneon on June 27, 2018 6:03AM
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  • starkerealm
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    Leandor wrote: »
    Is it me or are the Psijic portals missing in the list form OP?
    Where are the portals in ranking?

    Psijic portals on summerset. In other areas, you get the local ones, i.e. Vvardenfell would have the morrowind motifs, gold coast the dark brotherhood motifs, hew's bane TG, etc. Classic zones would have the purple books from vanilla ESO.

    Alik'r has Dwemer pages in their rifts. I was kinda surprised when I pulled a page this morning.
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    I got a few of them (5 or 6) and can confirm that they drop (at least) from chests, geysers and world bosses. The drop rate seems to be around the same as Buoyant Armiger, but it drops from more sources.

    The Buoyant Armiger drop rate is way lower than Psijic. There is a similar mechanic where some achievement on Vvardenfell (it's not clear which one), increases the drop rate significantly. But, it's still incredibly rare. Psijic seems to be on par with Morag Tong, so, rare, but not vanishingly so.
  • TheCyberDruid
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    Alik'r has Dwemer pages in their rifts. I was kinda surprised when I pulled a page this morning.

    I think all zones have a chance to drop dwemer pages. I'm (99%) sure that I pulled several from Psijic portals when I wasn't in Alik'r.
  • Leandor
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    Leandor wrote: »
    Is it me or are the Psijic portals missing in the list form OP?
    Where are the portals in ranking?

    Psijic portals on summerset. In other areas, you get the local ones, i.e. Vvardenfell would have the morrowind motifs, gold coast the dark brotherhood motifs, hew's bane TG, etc. Classic zones would have the purple books from vanilla ESO.

    Alik'r has Dwemer pages in their rifts. I was kinda surprised when I pulled a page this morning.

    Cool, haven't had any of those but in fact makes sense. As long as there's a dwemer ruin on a map, it could be considered as being a "zone drop". Also, Dwemer is one of the classic motifs in my book.
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    Leandor wrote: »
    Leandor wrote: »
    Is it me or are the Psijic portals missing in the list form OP?
    Where are the portals in ranking?

    Psijic portals on summerset. In other areas, you get the local ones, i.e. Vvardenfell would have the morrowind motifs, gold coast the dark brotherhood motifs, hew's bane TG, etc. Classic zones would have the purple books from vanilla ESO.

    Alik'r has Dwemer pages in their rifts. I was kinda surprised when I pulled a page this morning.

    Cool, haven't had any of those but in fact makes sense. As long as there's a dwemer ruin on a map, it could be considered as being a "zone drop". Also, Dwemer is one of the classic motifs in my book.

    Dwemer was the first motif added post launch. I want to say it was added with 1.2, but I could be wrong about that, it's been ages.
  • Leandor
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    Leandor wrote: »
    Leandor wrote: »
    Is it me or are the Psijic portals missing in the list form OP?
    Where are the portals in ranking?

    Psijic portals on summerset. In other areas, you get the local ones, i.e. Vvardenfell would have the morrowind motifs, gold coast the dark brotherhood motifs, hew's bane TG, etc. Classic zones would have the purple books from vanilla ESO.

    Alik'r has Dwemer pages in their rifts. I was kinda surprised when I pulled a page this morning.

    Cool, haven't had any of those but in fact makes sense. As long as there's a dwemer ruin on a map, it could be considered as being a "zone drop". Also, Dwemer is one of the classic motifs in my book.

    Dwemer was the first motif added post launch. I want to say it was added with 1.2, but I could be wrong about that, it's been ages.

    You're right, but up to 16 (Glass) all motifs added were not zone specific. Glass is probably exempt due to specific methods for acquiring it (writ vouchers now, writs themselves before), but the others up to and including 15 (Dwemer) are probably considered classic motifs.

    Starting from 17 (xivkyn), motifs were zone specific with some exemptions like akaviri/militant/ebony (special currency bought) or hollowjack and similar (event specific).
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    Leandor wrote: »
    Leandor wrote: »
    Leandor wrote: »
    Is it me or are the Psijic portals missing in the list form OP?
    Where are the portals in ranking?

    Psijic portals on summerset. In other areas, you get the local ones, i.e. Vvardenfell would have the morrowind motifs, gold coast the dark brotherhood motifs, hew's bane TG, etc. Classic zones would have the purple books from vanilla ESO.

    Alik'r has Dwemer pages in their rifts. I was kinda surprised when I pulled a page this morning.

    Cool, haven't had any of those but in fact makes sense. As long as there's a dwemer ruin on a map, it could be considered as being a "zone drop". Also, Dwemer is one of the classic motifs in my book.

    Dwemer was the first motif added post launch. I want to say it was added with 1.2, but I could be wrong about that, it's been ages.

    You're right, but up to 16 (Glass) all motifs added were not zone specific. Glass is probably exempt due to specific methods for acquiring it (writ vouchers now, writs themselves before), but the others up to and including 15 (Dwemer) are probably considered classic motifs.

    Starting from 17 (xivkyn), motifs were zone specific with some exemptions like akaviri/militant/ebony (special currency bought) or hollowjack and similar (event specific).

    Check your achievements. There are wrapper achievements for collecting 1-10, 11-14, and 1-14. There's no achievement for completing Dwemer alongside other motifs. Dwemer was also another pair of firsts. First time a motif was distributed by individual pages, and the first time you needed to collect fragments of a crafting mat, and then refine those. It was very different from what came before.

    Beyond that, the art assets for it did not appear in the game at launch. This is in contrast to a number of motifs added post launch, including Akaviri, Yokudan, Outlaw, Draugr, Lich (which still can't be crafted), and Soul Shriven, which were added to the game later. There were also Dark Seducer and Golden Saint motifs, which existed on drop gear. The former is impossible to obtain now, while the latter was given a different name and had its motif changed to Wood Elf. There are a couple other "classic" motifs that were changed before being released. Ashlander, Wormcult, and (of course) Maomer all appeared in the base game, but they underwent significant aesthetic changes before being added as collectable motifs. Finally, there are two classic motifs that no longer exist in their original forms: Orc and Redguard were both significantly redesigned in the first year, which resulted in a fair amount of controversy at the time.

    So, short answer, no, Dwemer is not a classic motif.
    Edited by starkerealm on June 27, 2018 7:19AM
  • Adernath
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    I got a few from portals and also one from random mobs.

    The droprate is just fine.
  • Leandor
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    Leandor wrote: »
    Leandor wrote: »
    Leandor wrote: »
    Is it me or are the Psijic portals missing in the list form OP?
    Where are the portals in ranking?

    Psijic portals on summerset. In other areas, you get the local ones, i.e. Vvardenfell would have the morrowind motifs, gold coast the dark brotherhood motifs, hew's bane TG, etc. Classic zones would have the purple books from vanilla ESO.

    Alik'r has Dwemer pages in their rifts. I was kinda surprised when I pulled a page this morning.

    Cool, haven't had any of those but in fact makes sense. As long as there's a dwemer ruin on a map, it could be considered as being a "zone drop". Also, Dwemer is one of the classic motifs in my book.

    Dwemer was the first motif added post launch. I want to say it was added with 1.2, but I could be wrong about that, it's been ages.

    You're right, but up to 16 (Glass) all motifs added were not zone specific. Glass is probably exempt due to specific methods for acquiring it (writ vouchers now, writs themselves before), but the others up to and including 15 (Dwemer) are probably considered classic motifs.

    Starting from 17 (xivkyn), motifs were zone specific with some exemptions like akaviri/militant/ebony (special currency bought) or hollowjack and similar (event specific).

    Check your achievements. There are wrapper achievements for collecting 1-10, 11-14, and 1-14. There's no achievement for completing Dwemer alongside other motifs. Dwemer was also another pair of firsts. First time a motif was distributed by individual pages, and the first time you needed to collect fragments of a crafting mat, and then refine those. It was very different from what came before.

    Beyond that, the art assets for it did not appear in the game at launch. This is in contrast to a number of motifs added post launch, including Akaviri, Yokudan, Outlaw, Draugr, Lich (which still can't be crafted), and Soul Shriven, which were added to the game later. There were also Dark Seducer and Golden Saint motifs, which existed on drop gear. The former is impossible to obtain now, while the latter was given a different name and had its motif changed to Wood Elf. There are a couple other "classic" motifs that were changed before being released. Ashlander, Wormcult, and (of course) Maomer all appeared in the base game, but they underwent significant aesthetic changes before being added as collectable motifs. Finally, there are two classic motifs that no longer exist in their original forms: Orc and Redguard were both significantly redesigned in the first year, which resulted in a fair amount of controversy at the time.

    So, short answer, no, Dwemer is not a classic motif.

    OK, then let's agree to disagree on this definition in the context of psijic portal drops and chalk up yours as a bug, shall we?
  • starkerealm
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    Leandor wrote: »
    Leandor wrote: »
    Leandor wrote: »
    Leandor wrote: »
    Is it me or are the Psijic portals missing in the list form OP?
    Where are the portals in ranking?

    Psijic portals on summerset. In other areas, you get the local ones, i.e. Vvardenfell would have the morrowind motifs, gold coast the dark brotherhood motifs, hew's bane TG, etc. Classic zones would have the purple books from vanilla ESO.

    Alik'r has Dwemer pages in their rifts. I was kinda surprised when I pulled a page this morning.

    Cool, haven't had any of those but in fact makes sense. As long as there's a dwemer ruin on a map, it could be considered as being a "zone drop". Also, Dwemer is one of the classic motifs in my book.

    Dwemer was the first motif added post launch. I want to say it was added with 1.2, but I could be wrong about that, it's been ages.

    You're right, but up to 16 (Glass) all motifs added were not zone specific. Glass is probably exempt due to specific methods for acquiring it (writ vouchers now, writs themselves before), but the others up to and including 15 (Dwemer) are probably considered classic motifs.

    Starting from 17 (xivkyn), motifs were zone specific with some exemptions like akaviri/militant/ebony (special currency bought) or hollowjack and similar (event specific).

    Check your achievements. There are wrapper achievements for collecting 1-10, 11-14, and 1-14. There's no achievement for completing Dwemer alongside other motifs. Dwemer was also another pair of firsts. First time a motif was distributed by individual pages, and the first time you needed to collect fragments of a crafting mat, and then refine those. It was very different from what came before.

    Beyond that, the art assets for it did not appear in the game at launch. This is in contrast to a number of motifs added post launch, including Akaviri, Yokudan, Outlaw, Draugr, Lich (which still can't be crafted), and Soul Shriven, which were added to the game later. There were also Dark Seducer and Golden Saint motifs, which existed on drop gear. The former is impossible to obtain now, while the latter was given a different name and had its motif changed to Wood Elf. There are a couple other "classic" motifs that were changed before being released. Ashlander, Wormcult, and (of course) Maomer all appeared in the base game, but they underwent significant aesthetic changes before being added as collectable motifs. Finally, there are two classic motifs that no longer exist in their original forms: Orc and Redguard were both significantly redesigned in the first year, which resulted in a fair amount of controversy at the time.

    So, short answer, no, Dwemer is not a classic motif.

    OK, then let's agree to disagree on this definition in the context of psijic portal drops and chalk up yours as a bug, shall we?

    I think it's that the Dwemer motif is classed as a zone specific drop.

    If I had to guess, it can naturally occur in Stonefalls, Deshaan, Eastmarch, The Rift, Stros M'Kai, The Alik'r, and Bangkorai. Though, obviously, I haven't tested all of those and verified.
  • lillybit
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    Psijic drop rate is low but not horribly so. I've found 5 so far, one from a geyser, two from world bosses and two from loot portals, all of them after completing both the main quest and the psijic one. Since then the drop rate has been a little better than Sapiarch where I've only had four drop so far.

    It's definitely better than BA where I've only ever had two drop despite completing the area with three characters and looting I don't know how many chest. Those two were both through treasure maps.
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  • eso_nya
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    psijic:
    worldbosses: 0
    geysirs: 2 or 3 (abyssal champion/put a cork _seem_ to help?)
    portals: 5 or 6 (in weeks 1 to 3, since than only sapiarsch)

    pandarian motif: last night first toon got summerset master angler with a very mathfriendly 4 motifs out of 20 bottles.

    sapiarch: so far 13/14 uniques + bunch of dupes with avg 1 motif out of 15 boxes. best part about those is for unknown reasons some ppl pay rediculous amounts of money for the cookie style items (its needed for some furnishings?)

    What feels different is, that i seem to get far more "unique" pages and a lot less "dupes" than usual. could be coincidence tho.
    Edited by eso_nya on June 27, 2018 7:47AM
  • Vahrokh
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    Got about 20 Sapiarch motifs from the above sources, and 0 (zero) Psijic motifs
    Edited by Vahrokh on June 27, 2018 7:47AM
  • Feanor
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    The drop rates are generally not good from what I’ve been seeing. Sapiarch seldom drops on my dailies (got 2 so far) and the one and only Psijic page I got came from a world boss.
    Edited by Feanor on June 27, 2018 7:55AM
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  • Armatesz
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    From the Patch Notes:
    The Psijic Motif chapters (or very rarely, the full book) will come from adventuring around Summerset.

    Activities that may reward a Psijic Motif chapter are, in order of most to least likely:
    Completing Abyssal Geysers
    Killing World Bosses
    Completing Abyssal Pools
    Treasure Chests (with higher-difficulty locks being more likely, and easier locks being less likely)
    Killing Delve bosses
    Killing monsters
    The chance to obtain a Psijic Motif chapter or book from these sources increases with your rank in the Psijic Order skill line, with Rank 10 giving you a ten times increase over those not versed in the ways of the Psijic Order.


    I've finished the Main quest, the Psijic quest, done all the delves, world bosses and geysers etc while doing dailies, and I've received a grand total of one Psijic drop.
    Anyone else had such abysmal luck?

    Sounds exactly like what I was getting from as well.
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  • mesmerizedish
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    My drop rate from Abyssal Geysers has been about 10% at Psijic 10.
  • sudaki_eso
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    Completing Abyssal Pools

    What are those? Found the geysers but pools?
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  • DamenAJ
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    sudaki_eso wrote: »
    Completing Abyssal Pools

    What are those? Found the geysers but pools?

    The pools are like little mini geysers you'll find around the coast. When they spawn there's one "strong" monster, and several little weak guys, kill 'em and there's a tiny chance at a motif from the big guy.
  • profundidob16_ESO
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    From the Patch Notes:
    The Psijic Motif chapters (or very rarely, the full book) will come from adventuring around Summerset.

    Activities that may reward a Psijic Motif chapter are, in order of most to least likely:
    Completing Abyssal Geysers
    Killing World Bosses
    Completing Abyssal Pools
    Treasure Chests (with higher-difficulty locks being more likely, and easier locks being less likely)
    Killing Delve bosses
    Killing monsters
    The chance to obtain a Psijic Motif chapter or book from these sources increases with your rank in the Psijic Order skill line, with Rank 10 giving you a ten times increase over those not versed in the ways of the Psijic Order.


    I've finished the Main quest, the Psijic quest, done all the delves, world bosses and geysers etc while doing dailies, and I've received a grand total of one Psijic drop.
    Anyone else had such abysmal luck?

    I've done nothing of all that, in fact nothing in summerset at all and got only 1 less than you...
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