DanteYoda wrote: »

Smasherx74 wrote: »

DanteYoda wrote: »

Not sure how you'd craft anything without ESO+ would be extremely time consuming or you'd need a lot of money.

It's called a guild bank.

I have multiple stacks of about every mat in game including yellows

Not everyone has access to guild banks

Just make your own guild and invite like 15 noobs, around 5 will leave the guild eventually and the others will stop playing altogether, especially if you do this during a free to play weekend.

coop500 wrote: »

DanteYoda wrote: »

Smasherx74 wrote: »

DanteYoda wrote: »

Not sure how you'd craft anything without ESO+ would be extremely time consuming or you'd need a lot of money.

It's called a guild bank.

I have multiple stacks of about every mat in game including yellows

Not everyone has access to guild banks

Just make your own guild and invite like 15 noobs, around 5 will leave the guild eventually and the others will stop playing altogether, especially if you do this during a free to play weekend.

What he said ^

If you're still scared that they might steal your stuff, just make access to the guild bank possible at a certain rank, and keep them below that rank.

Since i am not in a position to be able to afford ESO plus (tho i really want it), what i do is, in my bank i keep the weap/armor traits that i know ill use (e.g. divines, infused, precise, sharp ect...) and trash all the others. Ill also have about one or two stacks of each crafting mat for each level (except those cp 10-140, which i dont need at all), and i keep all style mats on my main crafter (since it doesnt matter what the gear looks like now with the outfit station, i have about 100 molybdenum at any given time). It takes up a lot of space, but not so much that i cant bank gear to give to my alts.

BaneOfBattler wrote: »

pay eso+ and forget, dont put yourself on shame guys...

having a guildbank is time consuming as well, u can have 5 guild banks and you still will lose 20 minutes finding mats... just pay for the endless bag...lol its only 13 miserable dollars.

takes 20 seconds.Not minutes to find mats.They are in alphabetical order.Can't get any simpler thatn that.

BaneOfBattler wrote: »

pay eso+ and forget, dont put yourself on shame guys...

having a guildbank is time consuming as well, u can have 5 guild banks and you still will lose 20 minutes finding mats... just pay for the endless bag...lol its only 13 miserable dollars.

1) Europe's currency is not the dolla bill.
2) It's a monthly fee, so it's not "only 13 miserable dollars", it's "13 miserable <currency> every month".
3) I know it sounds incredible, but some of us can't afford to pay 13 miserable euros every month for a commodity.
4) A guild bank is definitely more time consuming than a craft bag, but 20 minutes are a gross exaggeration.

Hope this clarifies.
Have a nice day.

I say there is merits for either choice.

With the crafting bag, inventory management is a non-issue but it's a bit of a PITA going thru the crafting bag to withdraw specific mats from it should you wish to sell/trade away some mats to others since there's a lot of mats to go thru (I'm sure add-ons help but not everyone has add-ons).

On the other hand, with how bad the servers are, it feels like you're paying for a mediocre product and expected to just take the goodies ESO+ gives as a bribe of sorts. With how much money people have used in ESO, between ESO+, Crown Exclusive Houses and so on, it makes you question where exactly that money is going and if you want to continue backing that behavior. Honestly, with how bad PvP has been on consoles, its becoming harder and harder for me to justify staying subscribed as, while I do enjoy the benefits of ESO+, it feels like its all being used for more cosmetic items in the crown store than on maintenance and necessary upgrades. Only reason I remain subbed at this point is for the extra Housing Space since my home is being used as a guild hall and I need the extra space to put up more attuned stations for my guild members to utilized. Crafting bag is nice and all but I barely ever use any of the stacks of low level mats just clogging it that I could pretty much just take them all out and vendor them to make some profit, placing those that I do you in my storage coffers at home and be free of the bag forever.

Sheezabeast wrote: »

Do you manage to be a crafter and manage your materials without ESO+? Is it hard to be a crafter without ESO+?

you have to have eso+ if you collect materials, it would overwhelm your inventory to hold all of those materials.
i am referring to being Master crafter in ALL the crafting abilities. if you are only a wood crafter then "no" it wont be as bad, but for me, i craft ALL of the available crafting options, is what i am referring to.

15 crafters doing all 7 writs a day, with no eso+ atm

LumbermillOverlord wrote: »

if you cant support developers by buyin eso+, why you playing in this beautiful game ?

I bought the game, haven't I ?

... and the DLCs

... and the chapters

... and I buy crowns when I can...

so...

yeah...

GGWP

I only went ESO+ like a month ago, and didnt feel very hampered by not having the craft bag. Just sold what i didnt use more often.

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

If you do it without, you effectively stop when you hit a full stack of almost everything but top tier mats. You don't make anything but the most commonly used items (food/drink/pots) unless you have to.

Basically, your crafter is your crafter, holding mats, making stuff, and not doing much else.

It can be done, but it's a pain in the ass. Remember, craft bag has not always been a thing. (Nor was 2x bank space)

Its necessary when you can't afford ESO plus tho. Also, its more manageable when you only have certain trait mats, certain craft mats (1-50 mats, and cp 150-160 mats are the only ones necessary tbh)