Poison/Disease Damage w/ Morag Tong and Swamp Raider

Tacos · June 2018

The 5 set of each of these items buffs poison and disease damage as listed below:

Swamp Raider:
(5 items) When you deal damage with a Magicka ability, your Poison and Disease Damage abilities gain an additional 450 Weapon Damage for 10 seconds.

Morag Tong:
(5 items) When you deal direct damage, you cause the enemy to take 10% more damage from all Poison Damage abilities for 5 seconds.

My question is if these sets will also have an impact on crafted poisons, poison enchants, and set items such as spawn of mephala, viper, etc that do poison damage. Or are they specific to class and weapon abilities? I am unable to find a definitive answer with testing.

Thanks!

IcyDeadPeople · June 2018

Morag tong is a debuff on the target, which makes them take more poison damage.

Swamp Raider is a buff on you, which I believe would not affect alchemy poisons or enchantments but only your class and weapon abilities.

valeriiya · June 2018

So would Morag Tong stack with the Affliction set?
(5 items) When you deal damage, you have a 50% chance to deal an additional 2979 Disease Damage. This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.

WatchYourSixx · June 2018

Another way of looking at it is Morag tong is a % modifier, where as swamp raider is a stat buff to any poison or disease based skills or abilities.

Enchants, set procs like velidreth or viper, and crafted poisons are NOT affected by stat changes. They are however, affected by % damage modifiers of their type. Examples would be Morag tong, mighty champion point for any of the above, thaumaturge for crafted poisons or sets like viper that do damage over time, or master at arms for poison enchants or sets that deal one single hit.

I hope that helps explain for any case and not just these two sets.

WatchYourSixx · June 2018

valeriiya wrote: »

So would Morag Tong stack with the Affliction set?
(5 items) When you deal damage, you have a 50% chance to deal an additional 2979 Disease Damage. This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.

No, that set is disease damage, and Morag tong is only for poison.

SmellyUnlimited · June 2018

WatchYourSixx wrote: »

valeriiya wrote: »

So would Morag Tong stack with the Affliction set?
(5 items) When you deal damage, you have a 50% chance to deal an additional 2979 Disease Damage. This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.

No, that set is disease damage, and Morag tong is only for poison.

Though perhaps you’d like the Ophidian Venom set? (Drops from Hel Ra Citadel)

2 items) Adds 1096 Max Stamina

(3 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage

(4 items) Adds 1096 Max Stamina

(5 items) When you deal damage with a Light or Heavy Attack against an enemy who has a Poison Damage ability on them, you have a 50% chance to deal an additional 3400 Poison Damage.

With that set, Morag, and Spawn of Mephala, you’d have some strong poison damage output. Werewolves beware!

Tacos · June 2018

WatchYourSixx wrote: »

Another way of looking at it is Morag tong is a % modifier, where as swamp raider is a stat buff to any poison or disease based skills or abilities.

Enchants, set procs like velidreth or viper, and crafted poisons are NOT affected by stat changes. They are however, affected by % damage modifiers of their type. Examples would be Morag tong, mighty champion point for any of the above, thaumaturge for crafted poisons or sets like viper that do damage over time, or master at arms for poison enchants or sets that deal one single hit.

I hope that helps explain for any case and not just these two sets.

So Morag Tong does improve the damage of enchants, spawn of mephala, etc?

WatchYourSixx · June 2018

Yes @Tacos as long as it's poison damage. It actually buffs anyone's poison damage on that target.