The most amazing dungeon group I've ever had.

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Tonight, I decided to dust off my old Templar and give him a go around. It's been a while since I've healed a dungeon, so I popped on my healing gear and loaded into a random veteran. Thankfully, it was a relatively easy one, Dark Shade 2.

It was pretty obvious from the first 10 seconds that things were about to get interesting. As I open my menu to recharge my weapon and swap a skill, I notice that everyone has run ahead to the first engagement. A dps dies before I can get there.

We get to the first mini-boss, a lady with a big fiery AOE. It's about this time that I realize there is something funny about the tank. He has less health than me (the healer), has no shield equipped, and is wielding a two-hander. The two dps are 1-shot by the flame cone at the same time. We wipe twice before killing the miniboss.

We proceed through the dungeon, the tank holding aggro on 2 mobs at a time, as the rest ravage the dps. I ask him why he's not taunting, and he says something about only being able to taunt one add a time, and the taunts only lasting 3 seconds. I main as a tank, and I know this isn't true, but I decide it's not worth the effort and we push forward to the first real boss; a huge Kwama with a bad attitude. Suprisingly things go alright. The dps is a bit low, but no big deal. I've seen worse. The fight goes slow enough that I spend some time just watching the Tank as he spams the vampiric blood suck attack.

We get to the next mini-boss; 3 Alits that all need to die within 10 seconds of each other. The team can't seem to master this concept. The fight lasts about 15 minutes before we finally get them all down.

Then we hit a brick wall. Those of you who pug regularly or who know DarkShade 2 well, know exactly what happened next. The Netch boss requires a fair bit of coordination and/or some good DPS. At the very least, it requires the ability to avoid red zones and break free of stuns. Rare traits in your average pug.

Sadly, after our first wipe on this boss, we lose our amazing 2-hander tank. He is sorely missed. After we finish mourning, Tank 2 joins. We wipe again and he leaves. Tank 3 joins, sees that we have already killed the first boss (thus he cannot complete his daily) and leaves. DPS 1 leaves. Tank 4 and DPS 2 join. Tank 4 has 40k health and S&B, and I'm feeling pretty good about him. We wipe 6 more times because Tank 4 can't hold aggro on anything, and the netchlings keep overwhelming us because everyone on the team holds aggro better than the tank. He apparently has nothing equipped on his second bar and regularly switches to empty hands. I don't know why.

Eventually, we all decide that one of the original DPS just isn't pulling his weight. We vote to kick. I feel pretty bad about it because he seems like a nice guy, but we'd already been in this dungeon for an hour. DPS 3 joins. We begin the Netch fight in earnest once more, and DPS 3 dies almost instantly. I go to res him, but he doesn't get up. Thinking I had somehow got the bar to 99%, I go to res him again and get the "Resurrection pending..." message. DPS 3 disconnects. We kick him. DPS 2 leaves. I am now the only original member of the group left.

DPS 4 and 5 join. DPS 4 is a hot mess right off the bat. He can't get into the dungeon because of a bug. He can't teleport to us and has to walk, then gets endless loading screen. While we wait, Tank 4 tells us he is Brazilian. No one asked. DPS 4 is finally able to zone in. He dies walking into a group of mobs we skipped. DPS 5 seems to know what he's doing. He does about 75% of the damage during the Netch fight (he whispers me to tell me this, I don't know why). We defeat the immortal Netch boss. Tank 4 is dead when this happens.

We proceed to the next fight, a horde of Dwemer constructs which you have to burn through. I watch helplessly as DPS 4 stands in red for about 10 full seconds, eating cleave after cleave. I take a moment to tell him that he needs to move. My magicka bar is now empty and he dies. Thankfully, he gets the message that you can't just suck on cleaves while wearing light armor and expect things to go well. DPS 4 doesn't stand in red for the rest of this fight. But, Tank 4 is still failing to hold aggro, so DPS 4 spends the rest of the fight spamming heals on himself and running to the river nearby - which causes half the mobs to reset. After what feels like 100 years, we actually get through this group of mobs without a wipe.

As we proceed through the next door, DPS 5 whispers to me "This is going to suck." I agree with him, but I secretly can't wait to see how much more can go wrong. We begin the fight with a giant Dwarven Spider. Tank 4, still unable to hold aggro on anything, spends the next 10 minutes trying to tank an untankable boss. He chases around the giant spider, stabbing it with his mace, as hordes of adds tear through his teammates. Many. Many. Many deaths. We're overrun by adds again and again. DPS 4 apologizes for being weak (his words, not mine). We vote to kick DPS 4. We all feel bad.

DPS 6 joins. He is a skeleton. I sh*t you not. Every time he is hit (which is often, because adds are still running around unchecked), he makes this weird skeleton laugh. We wipe many more times. The whole time, DPS 5 is whispering me complaining about how the tank doesn't hold aggro on the adds. He's correct and we try to tell Tank 4 about this, but Tank 4 says to ignore the adds and focus the boss. It's about this time that hysteria begins to set in, as I find myself laughing uncontrollably. DPS 5 finally gets fed up with it, because his armor is destroyed, and quits. DPS 6 also leaves. I am now on my third 1-hour meal.

DPS 7 and 8 join. We take one more run at the boss. The tank still doesn't want to grab the adds and continues to stab the giant dwemer spider with his mace. He sometimes switches to bare hands. I still don't know why. As the boss' hp dwindles down to <100k, I stand in fire like a moron and die. The two dps die to adds soon after. Tank 4 resurrects DPS 7 and then dies himself. DPS 7, in a miraculous feat, runs away from all our corpses and manages to finish the boss off by herself.

The nightmare ends and I wake up in a cold sweat, safely back at my home in Malabal Tor.

I hope you all enjoyed this recounting. It was the most amazing pug I've ever had, and I would do it all over again. I only wish all 12 of my party members could've been there at the end.
  • Muttsmutt
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    hey it's not as bad as that one time when my party didn't know they had to stand on the pressure plates in direfrost keep & they kept running at the locked gate
    they were apparently also impervious to written text, too

    [that was sarcasm, it absolutely is as bad and worse & years later i still come back every now and then to read this masterpiece and have a good laugh, thanks OP]
    Edited by Muttsmutt on October 28, 2021 7:39PM
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  • Arthg
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    Great story. Goes against your forums' name, but great story all the same.
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  • Tonnopesce
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    What a rollercoaster :D
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  • White wabbit
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    Yep I reckon everyone should do a random pug it's fun
  • ssorgatem
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    You should all get together and try a trial.
  • Madamova
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    hahahaha you actually made me laugh at work while trying to be very discreet reading forums :D
    You, Sir, are a very good story teller ;) I love it!

    P.S.: You have soooo much patience...

  • CaptainJackSpara
    I found this story hilarious
  • jaschacasadiob16_ESO
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    I blame the healer.
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  • BaneOfBattler
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    hahaha this happens so many times in dc2 man its really funny even tho i do them in normals but they still manage to get killed a lot of times... hahahahah is all good since always they are low level but i cant resist the laugh tho haha
  • Olen_Mikko
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    Omg
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  • Zenzuki
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    Great read!

    And I agree with madamova... you sir have the patience of Job!

    Towards the end of the story, I started having visions of...

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  • WuffyCerulei
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    You pretty much had a full trial group with that many people...! Very good and funny read xD
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  • Glaiceana
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    My god that was a rollercoaster of terror that you can't look away from :D
    Well done for sticking with it! I've never had a pug group go that crazy yet. I've been lucky where if it's going bad the players who need help accept it and we get through it in the end. They are usually very grateful of the help and patience, which is a real nice pay off :)
    Also, nice to be able to link this again:
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  • Cage_Lizardman
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    This post made me want to run a random vet. But I just got Spindleclutch II so it didn't matter that I was doing 80% dps and the healer was spamming repentance.
  • mocap
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    lmao while reading.

    Templar healer can or even must do damage in PUG dungeons as well (maybe except vet DLC ones). Entropy as combat starter + Sweeps spam + Burning light passive is 15k+ DPS. So don't stand spaming Springs, help your group with additional DPS.
    Edited by mocap on June 20, 2018 10:43AM
  • Yakidafi
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    This post made me want to run a random vet. But I just got Spindleclutch II so it didn't matter that I was doing 80% dps and the healer was spamming repentance.

    It aint funny unless you queue as a tank or healer. Watching the dps and them horrid game mechanics.
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  • kylewwefan
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    LOL! This kind of stuff happens to me ALL THE TIME! Congratulations for seeing it through to the bitter end. I’ve lost that kind of tenacity.
  • aetherial_heavenn
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    Best post i have read in ages. Thank you.
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  • Rocki
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    Muttsmutt wrote: »
    hey it's not as bad as that one time when my party didn't know they had to stand on the pressure plates in direfrost keep & they kept running at the locked gate
    they were apparently also impervious to written text, too

    Thought I recognised your name, didn't you just post this in another thread?
    Muttsmutt wrote: »
    no need. just ignore group chat.

    Guess they were ignoring group chat too. :D
  • Vaoh
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    I’m so sorry for you experience ._. That sounds horrible lol. I bookmarked your thread though cause this was an amazing read :lol:

    As a side note, this is EXACTLY why Daily Pledges should only require killing the last boss. This is actually how Fang Lair currently is - all of them should be like this. Otherwise anyone who joins after the first boss dies is immediately screwed.
  • BomblePants
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    Awesome post.... so funny :D
  • sudaki_eso
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    I admire your patience, 3h for a single dungeon is crazy. So far i only abondoned one pug group because it was clear from the first boss that we wont make it, the healer was already complaining about the lack of dps on the way to the first boss and well he was right... But i never had groups that dont know jack and had to stay 1h+ in a dungeon.
    About the bare-hands, i think its a new trend to troll people, had one templar yesterday in tempest island who came in bare handed...we made it at the end but it was no fun.
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  • Merlin13KAGL
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    MrSensible wrote: »
    Then we hit a brick wall. Those of you who pug regularly or who know DarkShade 2 well, know exactly what happened next.
    Your cooldown from exiting the group runs out and your requeue.
    Dedication and persistence is one thing. This borders on masochism.
    ssorgatem wrote: »
    You should all get together and try a trial.
    They'd still be about 32 people shy, if this is any indicator.

    Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...

    Earn it.

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  • weedgenius
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    I also had a friend who was a tank that frequently switched to bare hands during fights.... whyyy?
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  • Merlin13KAGL
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    weedgenius wrote: »
    I also had a friend who was a tank that frequently switched to bare hands during fights.... whyyy?
    • Idiocy
    • Gear swap addon didn't work properly
    • Visual bug (only looks like there's no weapon when there actually is)
    I'm gonna say the odd are about equal for any of the three.

    Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...

    Earn it.

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  • leeux
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    There was a glitch some time ago that made the weapons (any weapon) you were holding, just hover at your feet while your character just did the animations bare handed.

    Don't know if that one was fixed or not, it hasn't happened for me again since a before Summerset patch... but then again, I have been not playing the game too much at all, so the glitch might still be present.
    Edited by leeux on June 20, 2018 11:54AM
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  • Moonsorrow
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    That looking like someone has no weapon/shield is a bug, they do just look like got nothing but outfit and costume switching causes that on back bar often, sometimes it shows to the person also and is fixed by clicking the Outfit thingy on character menu so that you do it while on back bar also.

    Of course there can be trolls with nothing equipped, but 99% of i`ve seen been the visual bug that it only shows no weapon equipped even if got.
  • Aurielle
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    This is why I only pug vet Darkshade II on my damage dealer or my healer. My magsorc does 38k DPS unbuffed, and my Templar does 25k DPS with buffs. My tank only does 10k, so it’s a no-go...

    OP, you can avoid this situation in future if you switch to a hybrid heal/DPS build. :) There’s absolutely no reason why any vet dungeon run should take in excess of 45 minutes with an experienced Templar healer on board. You’ll be able to keep any team alive/buffed comfortably with BOL, Springs, and Combat Prayer — however bad they are, so long as they don’t have under 16k health. Put lightning Blockade, Shards, jabs/Force Pulse, Jesus Beam, Elemental Drain, and the Destro ultimate on your damage bar. Now that staves count for two pieces, we can run full monster sets. Try SPC/Worm/Illambris or SPC/Julianos/Illambris with the above bar setup, and your days of frustrating pug runs will be over.

    When you pug, you have to be prepared to carry the mostly terrible players who populate the group finder. That means no dedicated tanks, and no dedicated healers. Forget the trials meta builds; popping Warhorn will do NOTHING for your group if they can only do 10k DPS combined.
    Edited by Aurielle on June 20, 2018 12:08PM
  • MerlinPendragon
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    Pretty epic disaster PUG. I've been in a few where I ended up the last original member because of that Netch boss. What a PITA
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  • Exodium
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    One of the best dungeon disaster stories I've read. Lol so well written good job.
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