Julianos Shacklebreaker and Sloads works well, Sloads especially for PVP

mother's sorrow, sororria and zaan

Bfish22090 wrote: »

mother's sorrow, sororria and zaan

none of these are crafted as OP specified

@Feric51 oh, ok...I'm probably hundreds of levels away from that set... BUT another noob question on the benefits stacking on set items. 1 item gives this, two gives this, etc. Do you lose the 1st one if you have two, leaving it just with the two benefit? or is it just added, asin you have two items in the set you get both the one benefit, AND the two benefit, etc.?

DawnsLight65 wrote: »

@Feric51 oh, ok...I'm probably hundreds of levels away from that set... BUT another noob question on the benefits stacking on set items. 1 item gives this, two gives this, etc. Do you lose the 1st one if you have two, leaving it just with the two benefit? or is it just added, asin you have two items in the set you get both the one benefit, AND the two benefit, etc.?

@DawnsLight65

The bonuses are additive. Meaning with two pieces of a set equipped you will receive the 2-piece bonus. With three pieces equipped you will receive the 2-piece bonus and the 3-piece bonus.

For 90% of the monster-dropped "set" pieces in the game, (and 100% of the crafted sets) wearing 1 piece will not gain you any "set bonuses" (although each piece of gear has its own armor rating/weapon damage, enchantment, and trait that will apply regardless if you're wearing a matching set). Most sets start with a minimum 2-piece bonus and go up to 5-piece bonus.

The exceptions to this rule are affectionately termed "monster" sets that are only made up of head and shoulder armor. The headgear is acquired by killing the final boss of a group dungeon on veteran difficulty, and each set is specific to a particular dungeon. I.E. You can only acquire Kragh's headgear from defeating the final boss in Fungal Grotto I on veteran level; Engine Guardian headgear from Darkshade Caverns II. The shoulder pieces are sourced by running the group dungeon daily undaunted quests and opening undaunted chests with the keys awards for turning in the quests. There are three chests, and each chest has a chance to drop a shoulder piece from any one of monster sets whose dungeons are represented by that quest giver. What set piece you get is decided by pure RNG. These sets offer only a maximum of 2-piece bonuses because they are restricted to head and shoulders.

To further complicate matters, some sets have a maximum of 3-piece bonuses (willpower, agility, etc.). And some weapons offer 1-piece bonuses only (Maelstrom, Master's, Asylum, etc).

But since this thread has been about crafted sets... all crafted sets will offer set bonuses starting with 2-pieces, and up to a maximum of 5-pieces. You can wear more than 5 pieces, but you will not gain any additional set bonuses past the 5th piece.

With recent changes implemented with the Summerset patch to how set bonuses are calculated, it is possible to wear two, 5-piece sets and a 2-piece monster set on any character regardless of weapon type. 2-handed weapons such as greatswords, mauls, battleaxes, bows and staves now count as 2 items with regards to the set bonuses. So wielding an inferno staff of Juliannos will now automatically give you the 2-piece bonus while technically being only a single item (since it takes up both weapon slots).

Keep this in mind once you reach level CP160 and consider crafting max-level gear. Avoid crafting pieces for the head and shoulder slots if possible to save room for a monster set once you are able to complete the content to get it.

If any of that was confusing let me know and I'll attempt to clarify.



Edit for misleading text.

I_B_Squishy wrote: »

Julianos Shacklebreaker and Sloads works well, Sloads especially for PVP

Be careful investing in sloads though. There is a nerf incoming.

Hunding for stamina, Julianos for magicka. They are by far the most flexible and useful because they give you raw stats; they are more suited in PvE, but work reasonably well in PvP too, if paired with a sustain set.

There are other crafted sets that work for specific application. For example NMG used to be one good PvE support set pre-Summerset, but now the buff it provides is identical to the one obtainable from various skills - 3/5 classes have access to Major Fracture - but for the other 2 it's much better as solo play set, both in PvE & PvP, as they are not forced to use 1H+S for Puncture. Sets like Mechanical Acuity (also post-Summerset) are only useful for classes that do a lot of direct damage, like NB since you can't proc it off DoTs so it's less than ideal for something like DK or Templar. Also there are sets that are good for specific applications, like Armor of the Seducer, Shackle Breaker, Fortified Brass which are PvP oriented, Sload's Semblance which is totally unbalanced and will be nerfed soon, Eternal Hunt if you are a gank & kite NB, Pelinal's Aptitude if you play WW. An honorable mention for Torug's Pact for some PvE tank builds and PvP builds that rely on high proc damage from enchant.

The other ~75% are sub par although some were quite good back in the day, but have become so due to various changes in game, for example Twice Born Star due to Mundus and Warhorn changes, or Armor Master because it's too demanding, and offers almost exactly the same bonuses you permanently get from Fortified Brass. Most of those have never been useful.

Asardes wrote: »

Hunding for stamina,

Can I pick these up in the areas they usually drop, or where they are up too high an area for my level 28 NB to go?

Eternal Hunt if you are a gank & kite NB,

What is a Gank and Kite NightBlade?

Asardes wrote: »

DawnsLight65 wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

Hunding for stamina

The topic is about crafted sets.

So, I could eventually craft a Hundings set? Does it require a specialized forge?

davey1107 wrote: »

You will often see us vets refer to gear setups as something like a “5/5/2” setup. This means the character is wearing one complete five piece set to get all those buffs, another entire five piece set to get a whole other list of buffs, then two pieces of a third set to get those buffs. Often the third set is a monster helm set, which are all two pieces, but it doesn’t have to be.

sometimes or 5/1/1 or 5/2 is used to describe wether you wear 5 pieces heavy/light/medium combined with either two of the other or maybe just two heavy (depending on the setup preferably the chest and or legs, but if youre wearing dropped gear which isnt heavy, shoulder or head in a heavy monster set) combined with 5 light or medium. This is because of the gear passives, and especially the passive from the undaunted skill line, which gives you bonus when wearing different amor types (and also in pvp you can use a little bit of extra amor). Its imprtant to know that that some passives (and CP passives) from amor only work if youre wearing at least 5 types of that, and some passives already work with one or two

@DawnsLight65 I dont know which fraction you are, but in the first main zone you will find the undaunted in a pub in the city. For Dominion its in Vulkhel Guard, in the inn upstairs. They will send you to the first dungeon. At level 45 the pledges will beocme available, you get xp from doing a dungeon for the first time, from the dungeon achievements and from pledges. In the capital city (eg Mournhold, Grahtwood, Wayrest), there is the undaunted enclave, where you will find Bogrul, who also gives you delve dailies, which net a small amount of undaunted XP each time (and also like the mages guld public dungeon daily, or the fightersguild anchor daily you have a chance of getting the Draugr motif pages)

Narvuntien wrote: »

Julianos and mechicanical acuity. Are the best two. But i actually think mechanical acuity and twice born star might actually work better together. With apprentice and shadow.

I second the Julianos and Mechanical Acuity sets. My "alt" magicka Templar damage dealer became my "main" once I went to this combo. Even though Mech Acuity was nerfed a bit, it still is a great set.