Noobslayer3255 wrote: »

Grimick wrote: »

@Noobslayer3255

That makes sense! I would take Senche over Truth for non-cp. Trying to proc Truth without CP would be much more annoying.

True, I am losing dmg on my backbar, but I usually run werewolf or Soul Siphon backbar, so I don't have to worry about dawnbreaker. I do lose some damage on my light attack weave, but I spend 90% of the fight melee anyways, so that doesn't really bother me. Again, it pretty much comes down to playstyle preference. I'd love to see you using senche though! (you don't happen to record videos or exist on PC/NA do ya?)

Sure do, played for years on console and switched to PC a couple of months ago, so yea I live in BGs and no - cp cyrodiil for now.


I actually haven't used my stamblade much at all recently, mostly using my bleed build stamsorc because it's just ridiculously effective.


But here's a video I made in April, this is pre summerset so there I've got 5x senche, 5x bone pirate, master bow back bar and a random nirn 2h (didn't have asylum).


Sorry for the *** quality, i used a free editing software and it would only export the video in 720p -_-


https://youtube.com/watch?v=o1l5EzRmjJ4&feature=youtu.be

Grimick wrote: »

@Arantesovelha

The issue with automaton is that the boost to physical damage does nothing to boost your incap, though if you're playing fron range that isn't as much of an issue.

It might be helpful if you could explain your playstyle, so that I can try and get some context for how you use the build

Grimick wrote: »

How are you getting major brutality right now?

Own wrote: »

Grimick wrote: »

Introduction

Hello,

In case you don’t know me, my name is Grim, and I main a DC Stamina Nightblade on PC/NA.

I want to talk a little bit about the meta for Stamina Nightblade this patch; what changes have occurred, and how I have altered my builds in order to counter those changes. I recently published a build video, which is going to cover a lot of the content here, so if you prefer that format, I’ll link it near to the bottom of this post.

Changes This Patch

In the Summerset Chapter, three major things have changed that deeply affect the PvP landscape. The first is that 2H weapons now count for two piece set bonus’. The second is that with jewelry crafting, any number of sets can be combined that compliment one another. What this means in practice is that damage is much higher this patch, as people can easily run three (or more) pure damage sets with two 5-Piece sets and a monster set.

Another major change is the unholy prevalence of Oblivion damage, and in particular Sloads, which is acutely toxic to nightblades because as a DoT, oblivion damage pulls us out of cloak. Does this make cloak useless? Not at all. But we can’t always rely on it in the same way that we used to. At least this patch we know when cloak isn’t going to work (haha).

Adaptations

So in light of those changes, I want to talk about how I have changed my build in order to survive:

Firstly, heavy armor is out. It’s still great in duels, but in open world, you can’t predict how many people are going to be attacking you, with god only knows how many different damage sets and sloads procs (which heavy armor can’t negate anyways). To run open world with consistent success, you need a bust heal- for most this comes in the form of Rally. If you’re running heavy armor, you’ll have to run Forward Momentum to break snares. But in medium, we can use shuffle for snares, and take advantage of the massive burst healing that Rally offers us.

But we still need to be able to mitigate the enormous amount of non-oblivion damage coming our way (a one shot, unblockable sorc combo, for instance). To do this, I am running Impregnable Armor this patch. I run 2 Heavy and 5 Medium pieces, allowing me to get 9 seconds of Shadow Ward, every cast (which is easily 100% uptime if you’re paying attention), and mitigate enough damage to be able to take some heat and still slip away.

I have also been using Troll King this patch. Troll king provides an incredible amount of healing, and between the passive HoTs of Rally and Vigor, and the high health pool provided by Impreg, Troll King will proc regularly, and before you are one hit away from death. This set makes you incredibly sturdy, and allows you to fight multiple opponents without breaking a sweat.

There are other great monster set options, and if you want to imagine them in a spectrum of most defensive to most offensive, I would list them like this:

Troll King - Amazing Healing Buff (my personal choice)
Blood Spawn - Excellent balance between defense and offense via Ult regen
Pirate Skeleton - Very tanky, but I’m not sure I would risk the animation and defile without a shield.
Mighty Chudan- don’t use this, your Shadow Ward passive puts this set in the ground.
Selene- A very powerful proc that layers on top of you combo.
Slime Craw- don’t use this, we have easy access to minor berserk
Kena- Insanely powerful proc, but a little tricky to use efficiently.

If you want to combine two different sets, then do one Domihaus, and one of whatever you feel your build most lacks, whether it's crit, resistance, pen, healing, recovery, etc. Keep in mind that Selene will still be more damage than any combination of damage one pieces.

I’m sure there are other great options, but these are the ones that jump to mind.

The New Build Pattern Meta

There are two new build patterns that I think are going to arise as the dominant format in Summerset, and moving forward. Those patterns are going to be a 5-5-2 setup, where you run two 5 piece sets with 100% uptime, and a Monster Set. The second pattern is a 5-5-2-1 setup, where you have one 5 piece set with 100% uptime, a Master’s Bow on the back-bar (or Asylum/Agility weapon on the front bar) and a second 5 piece set that is only up on one bar, along with a Monster Set.

Because I am running Impreg to counter raw damage, and Troll King to heal, I prefer using the Master Bow back-bar along with an offensive 5 Piece set on my front-bar.

If you want to run a front bar offensive 5-piece, I think the best options are as follows:

Spriggan’s (Probably the best damage with a Nirn Sword- you also benefit from the 2-3 piece)
Hunding's (Good ol' Hundings. The crit and weapon damage still performs wonders, and you can craft a heavy chest. Double barring is also a good option if you don't have The Master's Bow)
Sload’s (for the meta bandwagon- it will proc from poison injection cast from your Master Bow)
Poisonous Serpent (You’ll have poison injection to proc the light attack weaves)
Toothrow (Crit is an excellent modifier, and full uptime is tempting)
Shield Breaker (If you hate yourself and everyone around you)
Shacklebreaker (A great choice if you want to double bar a craftable set)

For Defensive Sets, I think the best choices are:

Eternal Hunt (Place an annoying mine down)
Shadow Walker (Excellent regen when paired with shadow image- countered by Sload’s)
Coward’s Gear/ Jailbreaker (It’s fun to run)
Werewolf Hide (Ulti regen helps with offense and defense, and the max health helps Troll King)

Alternative Base Sets

There are more ways to mitigate damage than raw mitigation stats, and I don't think that has been lost this patch. There are several other base sets that are viable replacements for Impreg, but I think two will stand out above the rest:

Bone Pirate: Likely the best max stat stamina set in the game, Bone Pirate's Tatters provides substantial sustain and max stamina when using a drink (right now Dubious Camoran Throne). Once they fix the bug with Artaum Takeaway Broth, it will be hands down the best drink, though also the most expensive.

Shacklebreaker: One of the most well rounded sets in the game, Shacklebreaker provides excellent base stats, as well as the option to craft heavy body pieces. The sustain it provides is also notable, and the max magicka is valuable when kiting.

Consumable Buffs and CP

This information hasn’t really changed this patch, except for the addition of the new gold food, which is best in slot if you’re not running Bone Pirate (my understanding is that it isn’t functioning with Bone Pirate, even though consumables that offer both max stats and recovery have so far, all been classified as drinks). Not sure if that is working as intended. Dubious is still good. Honest Lassie Honey Tea is still good. Tri-food is still good.

All the same old potions are still going to be potent. For reference, I like:

Tri-Pots (Health, Stamina, Magicka)
Crit Pots (Health, Stamina, Major Savagery)
Immovable Pots (Health, Stamina, Immovable)
Detect Pots, and Trash Magicka pots

Poisons have been OP since they were introduced in Dark Brotherhood, I think the best effects are currently:

Double Damage
Damage and Stamina Cost Increase
Snare and Stamina Cost Increase

Nothing has changed there, these are all still dirty, and if you’re weapon is not infused, then you should be using poisons for maximum effect.

Not much has changed for CP either. I’ll list out my current CP Tree, but I’m not going to go into details unless somebody asks a specific question or offers a superior solution.

The Steed: (72 Ironclad) (38 Resistant)
The Lady (37 Hardy) (37 Ele Defender) (66 Thick Skinned)
The Tower (20 Warlord)
The Lover ( 56 Mooncalf) (43 Arcanist) (23 Tenacity)
The Shadow (68 Befoul) (40 Tumbling)
The Atronach (42 Physical Expert) (66 Mstr-at-Arms) (20 Shattering)
The Ritual (48 Precise) (10 Piercing) (64 Mighty)

Closing Remarks

If you’ve read this far, thank you. It’s a lot to sift through. I really do think that Stamina Nightblade is in a really good position this patch. We have a lot of really fun new build options, and a great balance of survivability and pressure. There are so many sets that I want to try out still, so I am hoping to make several more build videos in the near future, including an (effective) RP DW/Bow build, and a S&B build.

Have fun out there!

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A lot of good stuff here. I would like to offer a few ideas and changes.

Twice fanged serpent could be superior to spriggans on I risk saying most builds. The damage comes out close to the same, not much heals lost, and that nice crit. It stays proc'd with bleeds, dots, enchants. It stacks up realllly quick.

The dimishing returns and minimal gain from mighty isn't worth 66 points. If lowered and put into precise strikes, you get those sick crit heals. I love dual purpose CP's. I always run 22.08% or 23%.

I actually lowered piercing to about as low as you also.

Although I will never run no skill TK and rediculous defensive sets, the near necessity of impregnable/x defensive set and troll king disheartens me. It's too easy to instantly blow up now. No cp battlegrounds is a Stamblades safe haven.

I'm d/w and 2h

The skill floor has been raised with dumb proc sets and defensive sets to counter them.