Summerset party is over

Swimguy · June 2018

Now that weve gotten past summerset and gotten the psijic skill line and etc etc can you (ZOS) please fix the servers, PvP balancing and all the bugs that are destroying PvP (resource poisons, snipe spam are the biggest and baddest).

I was playing yesterday and i specifically remember 1v1ing this guys in BGS and i feared him, he got feared clearly walked away in fear animation cue the LA surprise incap combo and he was CCd again...????

This game HAD the potential to be THE biggest PC/Console game of the last few years and years to come but its certainly wont at this rate. just under half the people i play this game with are about to quit because its just NOT fun to get murdered by groups of 4 people who stand on each other in bgs, not fun to fight magsorcs with 20k burst and 20k shields... and they can use them at range with a smaller learning curve than pouring milk, its not fun to fight magplars that full heal to 30k hp+ in 1 second and has 13k shields. its not fun to fight magblades ghat just spam cloak and have shield for back up. And its really not fun to fight stamblade thats just roll around 4 times and then go invis incap repeat. Yes i play mag classes. On my 3rd day of playing magsorc in Bgs it just became too easy.

Cloak is not OP, if you cant counter cloak at this point you are doing 2 things wrong:

1. Not using a good build or you suck
2. you are playing the wrong game, go play

Shield is OP. There is no counter PLAY to shield you can try to stun a good player but his shield will be up preventing you from bursting him.
But you can alter your build to counter it, making you weaker against everything else in the game. Meanwhile staminas intended best way of damage mitigation is absolute *** and unsustainable (blocking), and dodge rolling is okay (on minority of stam set ups) mag classes have SKILLS, not sets that hit through dodging. allowing them to counter our defensive abilities without having to sacrifice ANYTHING.....

its honestly pathetic that sorcs get free 100% crit resist, immunity to resistance de buffs, and 10k+ damage mitigation from one skill..... maybe in past patches yeah but mag does way too much damage to get this utility and value from 1 skill.

yes this is a fix the lag, nerf mag thread, fix PvP balancing before the playerbase decides this game is trash again all in one hate me

usmguy1234 · June 2018

Shield is not OP, if you cant counter shield at this point you are doing 2 things wrong:

1. Not using a good build or you suck
2. you are playing the wrong game, go play

I changed a few words for you.

garrotjax · June 2018

I smell a pve player

DenMoria · June 2018

Dear Beth,

Please don't listen to @Swimguy . Nobody cares about the PvPers. Please continue to show them absolutely no love whatsoever and make it as inconvenient as possible for them to even exist in ESO. They are terrible people and we all wish the would just go away.

Couldn't resist a little historical satire there!

Swimguy · June 2018

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Shield is not OP, if you cant counter shield at this point you are doing 2 things wrong:

1. Not using a good build or you suck
2. you are playing the wrong game, go play

I changed a few words for you.

enlighten me how i am to change my play style to counter shield? cloak is counterable by abilities and gameplay. Shield is only counterable by changing your build. That is not healthy for any game......

Swimguy · June 2018

Bfish22090 wrote: »

sounds like a l2p issue

how do i get rid of shields then? They just reapply stun burst everytime.

Swimguy · June 2018

DenMoria wrote: »

Dear Beth,

Please don't listen to @Swimguy . Nobody cares about the PvPers. Please continue to show them absolutely no love whatsoever and make it as inconvenient as possible for them to even exist in ESO. They are terrible people and we all wish the would just go away.

Couldn't resist a little historical satire there!

lots of built up anger over months of PvP ***.

Look at any other developer, when there game has a game breaking bug they dont hush it down and dont fix it, they release a statement that theyre trying to fix it and they do. resource poisions affecting other people than the player it procced on is still in the game. I still watch my stam drop by like 500-800 every second in BGS every now and then (no im not sneaking, 0 buffs or debuffs)

DenMoria · June 2018

No doubt. I am sorry you're getting frustrated. It's been a long road for our ESO PvPers and a lot of it hasn't been very good.

I say, keep up the asking and, hopefully, one day, Zeni will listen.

Just because I don't do a lot of PvP doesn't mean that those who do should get the short end of the stick.

Swimguy wrote: »

DenMoria wrote: »

Dear Beth,

Please don't listen to @Swimguy . Nobody cares about the PvPers. Please continue to show them absolutely no love whatsoever and make it as inconvenient as possible for them to even exist in ESO. They are terrible people and we all wish the would just go away.

Couldn't resist a little historical satire there!

lots of built up anger over months of PvP ***

usmguy1234 · June 2018

Swimguy wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Shield is not OP, if you cant counter shield at this point you are doing 2 things wrong:

1. Not using a good build or you suck
2. you are playing the wrong game, go play

I changed a few words for you.

enlighten me how i am to change my play style to counter shield? cloak is counterable by abilities and gameplay. Shield is only counterable by changing your build. That is not healthy for any game......

@Swimguy I'll bite. What's your build and stats first?

duendology · June 2018

Wow... done already?

I haven't even started exploring Summerset yet.

With the speed people 'clear" every new content to satisfy some players ZOS would would need to publish a new chapter each freaking week. LOL

Swimguy · June 2018

DenMoria wrote: »

No doubt. I am sorry you're getting frustrated. It's been a long road for our ESO PvPers and a lot of it hasn't been very good.

I say, keep up the asking and, hopefully, one day, Zeni will listen.

Just because I don't do a lot of PvP doesn't mean that those who do should get the short end of the stick.

Swimguy wrote: »

DenMoria wrote: »

Dear Beth,

Please don't listen to @Swimguy . Nobody cares about the PvPers. Please continue to show them absolutely no love whatsoever and make it as inconvenient as possible for them to even exist in ESO. They are terrible people and we all wish the would just go away.

Couldn't resist a little historical satire there!

lots of built up anger over months of PvP ***

AND I TOTALLY GET THAT. ITS 100% possible to balance both PVP and PVE at the same time [removed bashing comment] ive honestly lost hope im sadly getting ready for fallout76

DenMoria · June 2018

The best I've done is speak with the cowardly elf guy and take to Razam'Dar before heading over to the Wayshrine. If I'm being totally honest, since I haven't played since Orsinium came out, I haven't even gone to Orsinium yet. I have rerollitis. I need help!

duendology wrote: »

Wow... done already?

I haven't even started exploring Summerset yet.

With the speed people 'clear" every new content to satisfy some players ZOS would would need to publish a new chapter each freaking week. LOL

Feanor · June 2018

I can’t really gather what you are trying to say. You start out by saying the game wasn’t applying CC immunity correctly in a BG, then you follow up with how Sorcs with their shields, MagPlars that heal to full, and magNB and stamNB that use Cloak are “not fun” to fight against. You somehow conclude then though that shields are OP and cloak is not, that stam defense isn’t great while you play mag classes too, and that you are unhappy about Sorcs being easy.

It looks like in incoherent rant and it would be great if you could clarify what you are actually complaining about.

DenMoria · June 2018

There's one I won't be getting for a long time. Despite what they say, I can see it turning in to a bloodbath.

Swimguy wrote: »

DenMoria wrote: »

No doubt. I am sorry you're getting frustrated. It's been a long road for our ESO PvPers and a lot of it hasn't been very good.

I say, keep up the asking and, hopefully, one day, Zeni will listen.

Just because I don't do a lot of PvP doesn't mean that those who do should get the short end of the stick.

Swimguy wrote: »

DenMoria wrote: »

Dear Beth,

Please don't listen to @Swimguy . Nobody cares about the PvPers. Please continue to show them absolutely no love whatsoever and make it as inconvenient as possible for them to even exist in ESO. They are terrible people and we all wish the would just go away.

Couldn't resist a little historical satire there!

lots of built up anger over months of PvP ***

AND I TOTALLY GET THAT. ITS 100% possible to balance both PVP and PVE at the same time ZOS is just lazy as *** ive honestly lost hope im sadly getting ready for fallout76

Swimguy · June 2018

duendology wrote: »

Wow... done already?

I haven't even started exploring Summerset yet.

With the speed people 'clear" every new content to satisfy some players ZOS would would need to publish a new chapter each freaking week. LOL

yeah I did do it pretty quick, im actually not near 100% done, but im just tired of PvP being an absolute cess pool. its pathetic that it takes ZOS months to do what other developers do in days-weeks.....

DenMoria · June 2018

Uhm... isn't that kind of the point of the shield, healing and cloak skills? To NOT get killed? What, you want to just easily kill everything you run in to? You're a monster! Or a master... can't really tell.

Feanor wrote: »

I can’t really gather what you are trying to say. You start out by saying the game wasn’t applying CC immunity correctly in a BG, then you follow up with how Sorcs with their shields, MagPlars that heal to full, and magNB and stamNB that use Cloak are “not fun” to fight against. You somehow conclude then though that shields are OP and cloak is not, that stam defense isn’t great while you play mag classes too, and that you are unhappy about Sorcs being easy.

It looks like in incoherent rant and it would be great if you could clarify what you are actually complaining about.

Swimguy · June 2018

DenMoria wrote: »

The best I've done is speak with the cowardly elf guy and take to Razam'Dar before heading over to the Wayshrine. If I'm being totally honest, since I haven't played since Orsinium came out, I haven't even gone to Orsinium yet. I have rerollitis. I need help!

duendology wrote: »

Wow... done already?

I haven't even started exploring Summerset yet.

With the speed people 'clear" every new content to satisfy some players ZOS would would need to publish a new chapter each freaking week. LOL

yeah i actually havent done orsinium either, I dont have all day to play so when I do i PvP. I dont care if a sorc just killed me but after he blocked all of my damage with a single button and then hits me with 2 UN DODGEABLE ABILITIES and burst me down its absolute ***.

Rawkan · June 2018

Joke's on you, I still haven't done the Summerset content.

Swimguy · June 2018

Feanor wrote: »

I can’t really gather what you are trying to say. You start out by saying the game wasn’t applying CC immunity correctly in a BG, then you follow up with how Sorcs with their shields, MagPlars that heal to full, and magNB and stamNB that use Cloak are “not fun” to fight against. You somehow conclude then though that shields are OP and cloak is not, that stam defense isn’t great while you play mag classes too, and that you are unhappy about Sorcs being easy.

It looks like in incoherent rant and it would be great if you could clarify what you are actually complaining about.

the game applied CC twice. 1 time from fear once from incap.. not that hard to count/understand.

Feanor wrote: »

I can’t really gather what you are trying to say. You start out by saying the game wasn’t applying CC immunity correctly in a BG, then you follow up with how Sorcs with their shields, MagPlars that heal to full, and magNB and stamNB that use Cloak are “not fun” to fight against. You somehow conclude then though that shields are OP and cloak is not, that stam defense isn’t great while you play mag classes too, and that you are unhappy about Sorcs being easy.

It looks like in incoherent rant and it would be great if you could clarify what you are actually complaining about.

re read it. the middle paragraph has the majority

idk · June 2018

1, The Summerset Party is not over

2. this is really just another nerf what I find inconvenient thread. So annoying that players find something inconvenient so they want it nerfed.

OP what class do you play so we can start calling for nerfs of skills that we find inconvenient. Seriously.

Velvelya · June 2018

OP has a real issue with magplars who have repeatedly been nerfed.

Bfish22090 · June 2018

Velvelya wrote: »

OP has a real issue with magplars who have repeatedly been nerfed.

sounds like another BOL cost increase is what OP wants

Chaos2088 · June 2018

Please don't make this a whine thread about PvE vs PvP player. blah blah blah....

There are ways you can counter peoples skills, it just takes time to learn how. It wasn't till I started playing different classes (was only playing one character a while back) that I understood how their skills worked, so I could counter or even out play people.

But you are correct about the lags, there has been a rush of new videos showing this lately, well its been going on since the word go....but does seem to have gotten worse than normal recently.....they do need to address it, not just patch it up for the next...well patch. lol

Velvelya · June 2018

Bfish22090 wrote: »

Velvelya wrote: »

OP has a real issue with magplars who have repeatedly been nerfed.

sounds like another BOL cost increase is what OP wants

Like, if a magplar is sitting there BOLing repeatedly, their magic will poof v soon and you'll basically be able to destroy them in seconds. I would know it happens all the time.

DenMoria · June 2018

There's a rivalry? Never heard of it. Two different playstyles, why would there be an issue?

Chaos2088 wrote: »

Please don't make this a whine thread about PvE vs PvP player. blah blah blah....

There are ways you can counter peoples skills, it just takes time to learn how. It wasn't till I started playing different classes (was only playing one character a while back) that I understood how their skills worked, so I could counter or even out play people.

But you are correct about the lags, there has been a rush of new videos showing this lately, well its been going on since the word go....but does seem to have gotten worse than normal recently.....they do need to address it, not just patch it up for the next...well patch. lol

ZOS_JesC · June 2018

Greetings, we've removed comments that were baiting. This is a reminder to keep comments on topic and free from baiting remarks aimed at other members. Thank you.

generalmyrick · June 2018

Swimguy wrote: »

Now that weve gotten past summerset and gotten the psijic skill line and etc etc can you (ZOS) please fix the servers, PvP balancing and all the bugs that are destroying PvP (resource poisons, snipe spam are the biggest and baddest).

I was playing yesterday and i specifically remember 1v1ing this guys in BGS and i feared him, he got feared clearly walked away in fear animation cue the LA surprise incap combo and he was CCd again...????

This game HAD the potential to be THE biggest PC/Console game of the last few years and years to come but its certainly wont at this rate. just under half the people i play this game with are about to quit because its just NOT fun to get murdered by groups of 4 people who stand on each other in bgs, not fun to fight magsorcs with 20k burst and 20k shields... and they can use them at range with a smaller learning curve than pouring milk, its not fun to fight magplars that full heal to 30k hp+ in 1 second and has 13k shields. its not fun to fight magblades ghat just spam cloak and have shield for back up. And its really not fun to fight stamblade thats just roll around 4 times and then go invis incap repeat. Yes i play mag classes. On my 3rd day of playing magsorc in Bgs it just became too easy.

Cloak is not OP, if you cant counter cloak at this point you are doing 2 things wrong:

1. Not using a good build or you suck
2. you are playing the wrong game, go play

Shield is OP. There is no counter PLAY to shield you can try to stun a good player but his shield will be up preventing you from bursting him.
But you can alter your build to counter it, making you weaker against everything else in the game. Meanwhile staminas intended best way of damage mitigation is absolute *** and unsustainable (blocking), and dodge rolling is okay (on minority of stam set ups) mag classes have SKILLS, not sets that hit through dodging. allowing them to counter our defensive abilities without having to sacrifice ANYTHING.....

its honestly pathetic that sorcs get free 100% crit resist, immunity to resistance de buffs, and 10k+ damage mitigation from one skill..... maybe in past patches yeah but mag does way too much damage to get this utility and value from 1 skill.

yes this is a fix the lag, nerf mag thread, fix PvP balancing before the playerbase decides this game is trash again all in one hate me

so many people attacked in this and claims of playing wrong...

some of it i agree with...like this game is too easy to stay alive---> the second survivability is attacked shouts of counter play come out.

good luck op.....good luck!~

Swimguy · June 2018

idk wrote: »

1, The Summerset Party is not over

2. this is really just another nerf what I find inconvenient thread. So annoying that players find something inconvenient so they want it nerfed.

OP what class do you play so we can start calling for nerfs of skills that we find inconvenient. Seriously.

i play stam dk stam nb stmplar and mag sorc

Velvelya wrote: »

Bfish22090 wrote: »

Velvelya wrote: »

OP has a real issue with magplars who have repeatedly been nerfed.

sounds like another BOL cost increase is what OP wants

Like, if a magplar is sitting there BOLing repeatedly, their magic will poof v soon and you'll basically be able to destroy them in seconds. I would know it happens all the time.

lol that doesnt happen though.......most the time i fight magplars theyre invincible until the rest of group comes and wipes me with DoT execute....

Swimguy · June 2018

Velvelya wrote: »

OP has a real issue with magplars who have repeatedly been nerfed.

not really just abilities that only offer counterBUILD not counterPLAY

Swimguy · June 2018

generalmyrick wrote: »

Swimguy wrote: »

Now that weve gotten past summerset and gotten the psijic skill line and etc etc can you (ZOS) please fix the servers, PvP balancing and all the bugs that are destroying PvP (resource poisons, snipe spam are the biggest and baddest).

I was playing yesterday and i specifically remember 1v1ing this guys in BGS and i feared him, he got feared clearly walked away in fear animation cue the LA surprise incap combo and he was CCd again...????

This game HAD the potential to be THE biggest PC/Console game of the last few years and years to come but its certainly wont at this rate. just under half the people i play this game with are about to quit because its just NOT fun to get murdered by groups of 4 people who stand on each other in bgs, not fun to fight magsorcs with 20k burst and 20k shields... and they can use them at range with a smaller learning curve than pouring milk, its not fun to fight magplars that full heal to 30k hp+ in 1 second and has 13k shields. its not fun to fight magblades ghat just spam cloak and have shield for back up. And its really not fun to fight stamblade thats just roll around 4 times and then go invis incap repeat. Yes i play mag classes. On my 3rd day of playing magsorc in Bgs it just became too easy.

Cloak is not OP, if you cant counter cloak at this point you are doing 2 things wrong:

1. Not using a good build or you suck
2. you are playing the wrong game, go play

Shield is OP. There is no counter PLAY to shield you can try to stun a good player but his shield will be up preventing you from bursting him.
But you can alter your build to counter it, making you weaker against everything else in the game. Meanwhile staminas intended best way of damage mitigation is absolute *** and unsustainable (blocking), and dodge rolling is okay (on minority of stam set ups) mag classes have SKILLS, not sets that hit through dodging. allowing them to counter our defensive abilities without having to sacrifice ANYTHING.....

its honestly pathetic that sorcs get free 100% crit resist, immunity to resistance de buffs, and 10k+ damage mitigation from one skill..... maybe in past patches yeah but mag does way too much damage to get this utility and value from 1 skill.

yes this is a fix the lag, nerf mag thread, fix PvP balancing before the playerbase decides this game is trash again all in one hate me

so many people attacked in this and claims of playing wrong...
some of it i agree with...like this game is too easy to stay alive---> the second survivability is attacked shouts of counter play come out.

good luck op.....good luck!~

honestly its ridiculous people thinks its balanced to give 10k damage mitigation free 100% crit resist on a spammable skill obviously needs to be toned down but all the horrible mag players will whine they cant block everyone damage with just 1 button.......

Velvelya · June 2018

Swimguy wrote: »

idk wrote: »

1, The Summerset Party is not over

2. this is really just another nerf what I find inconvenient thread. So annoying that players find something inconvenient so they want it nerfed.

OP what class do you play so we can start calling for nerfs of skills that we find inconvenient. Seriously.

i play stam dk stam nb stmplar and mag sorc

Velvelya wrote: »

Bfish22090 wrote: »

Velvelya wrote: »

OP has a real issue with magplars who have repeatedly been nerfed.

sounds like another BOL cost increase is what OP wants

Like, if a magplar is sitting there BOLing repeatedly, their magic will poof v soon and you'll basically be able to destroy them in seconds. I would know it happens all the time.

lol that doesnt happen though.......most the time i fight magplars theyre invincible until the rest of group comes and wipes me with DoT execute....

Maybe the issue isn't the magplar, but like....YOU. Interrupt them, incap them from healing. Once they run out of stam to break free their stuck their unable to heal and die.