@Zos.. time to give every class a hard 5sec CC that does damage and can't be blocked or dodged.
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Gprime31✭✭✭✭themaddaedra wrote: »It's like everytime a sorc kills a person they come here complaining lol. Get gud is all it is.
If by get gud you mean roll a Mag Sorc... that is already in the works. I am looking forward to easy mode pvp
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lol made one on the weekend super easy 1v10-15 lmao sorc takes 0 skill, shield stack, rune cage..ice comet..insta frag proc..
streak away when in trouble and invis pots. and mages wrath explosion is great too. better for solo than stamblade0 -
Tonturri✭✭✭✭✭So instead of further blending the lines of what makes a class unique... how about we just get rid of all classes? I mean ZOS has stolen so many skills from the DK class due to lack of creativity we might as well just off my class first.
Tbh I've been thinking about this lately. More and more it feels like I'm playing a collection of skill lines that have totally random synergy (or lack thereof) with each other. There's also like...4-5 different versions of dk talons across other classes/weapons, to name but one skill that's been copy/pasted and then colored differently.0 -
Tbh, sorc has way too much going on for them right now.
Long distance powerful execute, more practical than impale with magblade, way more practical.
Best gank in the game with overload ult (more powerful than stam or magblade)
Unblockable CC that is a long distance CC unlike hysteria or fossilize.
Gap closer that can also be used as means to escape and as mass CC.
Good survivability with shield stack, people say that 'oh just count to 6' but it is really difficult when magsorc can put so much pressure on you in 1v1 duel and rune cage you before the 6 seconds is up.
And they have methods to 'stand their ground' with the runes.
They have time bomb like ability with curse that re-applies itself too.
Rune cage did not need that buff it got with the list what they have right now. Magsorc always was little annoying to fight previously as magdk or stamblade, better chances of winning as magdk only because of the wings, sometimes.
Now they are worse and I dont wanna even attempt to bother with them.
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What sarcasm? As a sorc main it is my obligation to take the same, cough, stand, as the rest. I firmly believe in the, cough, truth. Mag sorc is balanced.Edited by templesus on June 18, 2018 2:34AM2 -
nryerson1025✭✭✭✭how about maybe make one or two more of their class morphs stam? i dont understand why every class with the exception of sorc is looked at from both mag and stam perspectives1 -
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✭Great idea... here are the skills...
Templar
Binding Javelin no longer damages on impact, stuns for 5 secs & can't be blocked or dodged. Only when the CC is broken the victim suffers 5k damage... like RUNE CAGE!
DragonKnight
Fossilise... but with 5k damage.
Nighblade
Where tf did my Malefic Wreath go!? Plz turn Malevolent Offering back to the Wreath! (but with 5k damage on de-wreathing)
Sorc
RUNE CAGE YEEEAAAHH!H!@!!
Warden
Bear Poop.
Your bear takes a big poop on the enemy player which stuns them for 5 seconds as it's all sticky & they don't want it to get all over everything! The victim suffers 5k cleaning damage from the dry-cleaners when the CC ends.
tee hee
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✭✭✭✭✭Rune cage is not that OP. A little but not a lot. I play a mag sorc as my only mag class after all the stamina classes, and I’ve never once been “one shot” by the entire rune cage combo and I’ve been dueling a lot of sorcs as a sorc. The burst usually comes from curse, wrath, rune cage, frags. When everything hits at once. Also the only times I manage to meteor rune cage someone to death is when that person is not an experienced player at all and is typically running a build that’s is sufficient for PvP.1 -
Revokus✭✭✭✭✭You shouldn't be below 15k stamina with light armor in Cyrodiil anyway with some stamina regen from Shacklebreaker helps. I never had a problem breaking free from rune cage as magsorc even tough I use the skill. But seriously I kill plenty of people who after the first rune cage can't even cc break it when they didn't even dodged or blocked first...that's their own fault and shouldn't be complaining when they have a bad build with low stamina. Either people dodge too much or block too much and then rune cage = death. it's the same thing for fear it's unblockable and undodgable and was always regarded as the best cc in the game. But I admit the damage on rune cage isn't necessary.Playing since January 23, 20161 -
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✭✭themaddaedra wrote: »It's like everytime a sorc kills a person they come here complaining lol. Get gud is all it is.
No this is not a “get Gud” rune cage is clearly the most broken overpowered cc in the game. Longest stun, unblockable, undodgeable, cheap, and massive range. BG’s is full of rune cage spammers and you’re likely not going to survive 2 seconds of a sorc burst. If you’re a mag character you’ll likely die by the second rune cage wombo combo. Anyone who disagrees otherwise is a sorc fanboy who doesn’t want their precious cancer build ruined. Even in duels is extremely broken. What skill does it take to curse, meteor, rune cage, and crystal frags. You’re literally hitting a dummy at this point since the opponent can not do anything to counter such a combo except have a lot of resistances.
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✭✭L2P issue. Mag sorc is perfectly balanced as is.
Not a l2p issue. Sorc isn’t balanced at all, unless you consider endless shield stacking and broken cc wombo combos that are undodgeable or unblockable “balanced”
Clearly some people don’t know PvP outside of their 3749388 different shields
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✭Omg omg 5 sec cc mommy sorc killed me!!
if you stay in ANY cc longer than 1 sec it is either your fault (bad build/resource management, L2P scrub lol) OR
server issues when you can't break free whatever you are doing (in this case you gonna die anyway and come here crying for
so-known macro-cheating-monsters under your bed)
Of course it is easier to cry for nerfs than to start using your own brain and upgrade your skills.
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✭themaddaedra wrote: »It's like everytime a sorc kills a person they come here complaining lol. Get gud is all it is.
No this is not a “get Gud” rune cage is clearly the most broken overpowered cc in the game. Longest stun, unblockable, undodgeable, cheap, and massive range. BG’s is full of rune cage spammers and you’re likely not going to survive 2 seconds of a sorc burst. If you’re a mag character you’ll likely die by the second rune cage wombo combo. Anyone who disagrees otherwise is a sorc fanboy who doesn’t want their precious cancer build ruined. Even in duels is extremely broken. What skill does it take to curse, meteor, rune cage, and crystal frags. You’re literally hitting a dummy at this point since the opponent can not do anything to counter such a combo except have a lot of resistances.
Boy i'm a bombblade, not a sorc. I never PvP on my sorc. Sort your s*it before making stupid assumptions.
Truth is i disagree with this thread because to me it's very obviously a l2p issue.
A good dk wearing Sload/Durok/Zaan can kill basically any sorc or nb by only fossilize and a couple of light attacks. A good templar can survive easily against five players for a long time. A good bombblade can kill 20 people in 8 seconds. It goes and goes. And a good sorc can range kill people as this is what it's supposed to do.
Go cry to someone else.Edited by themaddaedra on June 18, 2018 5:32AMPC|EU3 -
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✭Zos it is time to either give every class a 5 sec CC that does damage so we can fight fire with fire or limit all hard CC to 2 sec max even less if it is spamable. A 5 sec CC is way to long on a class that has major burst and it is even worse against magica classes that have little stam to constantly break free.
I really wonder if Zos intentions are to eliminate all but a few classes in pvp because right now all it seems that I see in Cyrodiil are Rune cage spamming sorcs. I would of course rant a little less if my class (magica templar) had a spamable hard CC that could not be blocked or dodged.
Well you had Blazing Spear, it was removed...but it was far more broken than rune cage... Did the same CC but to 3+ people around you. I used it, I miss it. Sorc's had Frags and removed it... They gave us Rune Cage.. The only reason its op and noticeable now is because someone made a build video.Daggerfall Covenant:Casterial Stamplar || Casterial DK || Availed NB || Castyrial Sorc || Spooky Casterial Necro
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Because the heal is technically your "house lock" but, as a stamplar you don't really have one.. But the OP heals to Vigor and dodge survival... We use to have Spear.Narvuntien wrote: »Templar players agree!
Why can't we lock the door on our house?Yes nerf sorc.
It will need a nerf, but I think its Overload more than Rune Cage, however removing Cage will just make everyone run reach and we will just hear "nerf Reach" next.. But it doesn't drop block. I guess that's nice... Nerf block?
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✭✭✭✭✭Haha like seriously? You think that this would change anything? Sorcs are not blocking 90% of a time to not waste stamina, you can stun them with anything, if you can't kill them now, you won't be able to kill them after, unless you're one of those perma blocking trolls and they are actually able to kill you, shame isn't it? But guess what?
Experienced players will still be able to kill you, with or without unlockable stuns. Yep I'm a *** because I'm sick and tired of rookies calling for nerfs, rage whispering because their build is complete trash and they melt in seconds, because they panic and make mistakes that I am exploiting without hesitation, because they don't know basic mechanics and PvP skill combos... and many more.
Go on nerf any class you want, I have all of them, I don't care which one I will use to kill you.I'm done with this game because of ZOS pushing us into Vengeance, because they don't know how to fix Cyrodiil.3 -
Animus-ESO✭✭✭✭✭They Honestly should have waited to see how strong the extra set bonus would make staff sorcs more powerful, But they decided to buff them anyway. Which put them over the edge into OP status.Dude Where's My Guar?0 -
Bajatar✭✭✭jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »They Honestly should have waited to see how strong the extra set bonus would make staff sorcs more powerful, But they decided to buff them anyway. Which put them over the edge into OP status.
The odd thing is, they nerfed two-handed damage but buffed staff damage.0
