Looking for a....weird build

seipher09 · June 2018

Ok first I know this is extremely weird what I'm going for but on an rp character.

Nightblade, pve content, solo. Mostly do world bosses solo dungeons and overland content.

Looking to use sword and shield ONLY. I know weird yes. So not sure if going magic or stamina is better course. I know stamina of course helps with my left clicks, but magic I can utilize a full nightblade only skills into the mix.

So what would you kinda suggest going with sword and shield nightblade in pve? I know already my damage isn't going to be the highest but this is for me not to compete with others.

Also I would prefer craftable armor only as I'm broke and have no monster sets to narrow it down even harder.

VaranisArano · June 2018

Sword and shield is going to be stronger if you make a stamblade because it scales with stamina.

If you want a magblade, I'd use heroic slash for ultimate regen and focus on blocking/interrupting while you murder things with your magblade abilities.

Puncture has good debuffs, but is also a taunt, so only use it if you want to have the enemies be taunted or you need to debug a boss enemy.

Jimmy_The_Fixer · June 2018

Is saptank still a thing? I haven't seen a saptank in a while. Might be good for soloing dungeons like OP wants.

FrancisCrawford · June 2018

Some thoughts:

Food is essential to any build. Don't go without it (or in a few cases drink). There are cheap ways to make that happen.
Dropped potions work a lot better than no potions at all.
Your main choices for "spammable" are Surprise Attack in the nightblade line and the stamina morph of Imbue Weapon in the new Psijiic skill line.
For a stamina nightblade I love having Concealed Weapon for its boost to sneak speed. Unfortunately, that conflicts with Surprise Attack. Concealed weapon + the Cloak morph that still gives invisibility + Retreating Maneuvers is a LOT of fun.
Vigor is essential. You get that from PvP.
Reaper's Mark helps with self-healing in trash fights.
Dropped gear can often be cheaper than crafted. I don't know what part of your post is about.
Fungal Grotto is probably the single easiest dungeon, especially in vet mode. The monster helm from there, Krag'h, would be a good one for you.

Nolic1 · June 2018

seipher09 wrote: »

Ok first I know this is extremely weird what I'm going for but on an rp character.

Nightblade, pve content, solo. Mostly do world bosses solo dungeons and overland content.

Looking to use sword and shield ONLY. I know weird yes. So not sure if going magic or stamina is better course. I know stamina of course helps with my left clicks, but magic I can utilize a full nightblade only skills into the mix.

So what would you kinda suggest going with sword and shield nightblade in pve? I know already my damage isn't going to be the highest but this is for me not to compete with others.

Also I would prefer craftable armor only as I'm broke and have no monster sets to narrow it down even harder.

Give me the weekend I will see what I can do and do you want it stamina or magicka based I can also try a hybrid and this is for solo play so will not matter how it is built but let me know?

seipher09 · June 2018

Nolic1 wrote: »

seipher09 wrote: »

Ok first I know this is extremely weird what I'm going for but on an rp character.

Nightblade, pve content, solo. Mostly do world bosses solo dungeons and overland content.

Looking to use sword and shield ONLY. I know weird yes. So not sure if going magic or stamina is better course. I know stamina of course helps with my left clicks, but magic I can utilize a full nightblade only skills into the mix.

So what would you kinda suggest going with sword and shield nightblade in pve? I know already my damage isn't going to be the highest but this is for me not to compete with others.

Also I would prefer craftable armor only as I'm broke and have no monster sets to narrow it down even harder.

Give me the weekend I will see what I can do and do you want it stamina or magicka based I can also try a hybrid and this is for solo play so will not matter how it is built but let me know?

I think I'd prefer magic overall due to sap essense being such a fun aoe that heals me to. Thanks!

Tasear · June 2018

Maybe some damage tank sets? There's some in tempest and dragon bones dungeons. There's also twin sister and hallbringer.

RavenSworn · June 2018

Hi there!

I'm intrigued by rp builds and will always try to make them viable not just for overland content but for dungeons as well. are you looking for which theme exactly?

like, are you looking to be an assassin in the shadows or are you a flamboyant mage-assassin? you know that sort of theme.

seipher09 · June 2018

RavenSworn wrote: »

Hi there!

I'm intrigued by rp builds and will always try to make them viable not just for overland content but for dungeons as well. are you looking for which theme exactly?

like, are you looking to be an assassin in the shadows or are you a flamboyant mage-assassin? you know that sort of theme.

Dark Knight, heavy armor black and red. Have my armor all picked out but it's tough. I always like sword and shield because it's just kind of my theme in games. Luckily works like a charm on my magplar and so so on the magden. But with my nightblade either I do decent damage with some builds but die to easy, or I can stay alive fine but don't do enough damage.

Narvuntien · June 2018

The Sap tank Kind of works.

Its Bahara's Curse or Livewire and Bloodthorn. It can be very hard to find Bahara's Curse in heavy since it only comes from the quests so you might have to use Livewire then Bloodthorn gives really good sustain of both resources.

I don't know if anyone has tried it but Nocturnal’s Favor but it also seems good on Nightblade sap tanks.

There seems like a lot of good monster sets, you can use sustain, healer or tank sets depending on what you feel you need.

GrumpyDuckling · June 2018

@seipher09

5 pc Curse of Doylemish (heavy)
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Curse+of+Doylemish+Set
5 pc Bahraha's Curse (jewlery and weapons)
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Bahraha's+Curse+Set
2 pc Nightflame (monster set)
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Nightflame+Set

Skills
- Pierce Armor (for taunt, debuff, and to set up Curse of Doylemish)
- Low Slash (for minor maim + ultimate generation)
- Funnel Health (for heal over time + healing received + magicka passive + ultimate passive)
- Refreshing Path (for heal over time + damage + major resist buffs from passive)
- Mirage (for dodge chance + minor resist buffs)

Ultimate
- Veil of Blades (for great damage and defense)

Analysis
You will be extremely hard to kill and still have some decent damage. Between Funnel Health, Refreshing Path, and Bahraha's Curse, you will proc Nightflame often, and have excellent healing. You've got a few nice dots (especially with ultimate), and some burst every 7 seconds with Curse of Doylemish. You're getting the most out of your passives, and you have a lot of buffs and debuffs.

Oh, and by the way, that's only one bar... you still have a backbar that you can load up another 5 skills and ultimate. Enjoy

Edit: sorry, I totally forgot about the craftable only part. Maybe you could consider this later on. Bahraha's Curse is pretty easy to get. You can just open up chests in overland Hew's Bane.

RavenSworn · June 2018

Here's what I got for you:

Gear: Akaviri Dragon Guard + Julianos + monster set ilambris.
Setup is easy to get, dragon guard can be farmed in eastmarch both with delves, dolmens and public dungeons, for the weapons and jewelry. The good part of having Julianos as body pieces is that it's better for you to control what armor type you would want to wear for it. Ilambris monster set can be gotten easily with crypt of hearts 1 to be one of the easier vet dungeons. But honestly, even the shadowy clann fear set from banished cells 1 (arguably the easiest dungeon be it vet or normal, as long as no hard mode) can be used. With that said though, heavy armor does not give any other bonuses for a magicka set other than extra damage mitigation.

Bar setup: you wanted sword and shield for both bars so I tried my best to include as much usefulness for a dps as possible.

SAP Essence
Twisting Path
Proximity Detonation
Mirage / Inner Light / Pierce Armor
Deep Slash

Concealed weapon
Impale
Swallow Soul
Merciless Resolve
Siphoning Strikes

Soul Tether / Shield Discipline
Soul Harvest

Now I'm gonna be frank with you, the build doesn't do insane damage due to its weapon choice and perhaps its armor (it is up to you since it's mostly crafted) but it can hold its own with a bit of proper rotation.

Rotation is simple, the formula is just buff up, dots then direct damage with light attack weaving. It's fairly standard rotation with the exception of merciless resolve which throws your rotation slightly off.

Because of s/s, your attacks return stamina which hinders your resource management. It's mitigated with siphoning strikes which returns magicka after a while but it's not much. Thus, max magicka + mag recovery food will help tremendously.

Note: I didn't add in summerset psijic abilities as I didn't want to assume you had access. If you do however, then you can swap mirage with channelled acceleration for better damage buffs and /or Deep Thoughts for siphoning strikes. This will allow you to make full use of the psijic passives such as the spell orb and shield block.

Hope this helps!!

seipher09 · June 2018

GrumpyDuckling wrote: »

@seipher09

5 pc Curse of Doylemish (heavy)
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Curse+of+Doylemish+Set
5 pc Bahraha's Curse (jewlery and weapons)
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Bahraha's+Curse+Set
2 pc Nightflame (monster set)
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Nightflame+Set

Skills
- Pierce Armor (for taunt, debuff, and to set up Curse of Doylemish)
- Low Slash (for minor maim + ultimate generation)
- Funnel Health (for heal over time + healing received + magicka passive + ultimate passive)
- Refreshing Path (for heal over time + damage + major resist buffs from passive)
- Mirage (for dodge chance + minor resist buffs)

Ultimate
- Veil of Blades (for great damage and defense)

Analysis
You will be extremely hard to kill and still have some decent damage. Between Funnel Health, Refreshing Path, and Bahraha's Curse, you will proc Nightflame often, and have excellent healing. You've got a few nice dots (especially with ultimate), and some burst every 7 seconds with Curse of Doylemish. You're getting the most out of your passives, and you have a lot of buffs and debuffs.

Oh, and by the way, that's only one bar... you still have a backbar that you can load up another 5 skills and ultimate. Enjoy

Edit: sorry, I totally forgot about the craftable only part. Maybe you could consider this later on. Bahraha's Curse is pretty easy to get. You can just open up chests in overland Hew's Bane.

Just curious why go with heavy armor? And would you suggest using magic or stamina with this kinda build? Looks fun to test out on the pts

Tasear · June 2018

seipher09 wrote: »

GrumpyDuckling wrote: »

@seipher09

5 pc Curse of Doylemish (heavy)
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Curse+of+Doylemish+Set
5 pc Bahraha's Curse (jewlery and weapons)
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Bahraha's+Curse+Set
2 pc Nightflame (monster set)
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Nightflame+Set

Skills
- Pierce Armor (for taunt, debuff, and to set up Curse of Doylemish)
- Low Slash (for minor maim + ultimate generation)
- Funnel Health (for heal over time + healing received + magicka passive + ultimate passive)
- Refreshing Path (for heal over time + damage + major resist buffs from passive)
- Mirage (for dodge chance + minor resist buffs)

Ultimate
- Veil of Blades (for great damage and defense)

Analysis
You will be extremely hard to kill and still have some decent damage. Between Funnel Health, Refreshing Path, and Bahraha's Curse, you will proc Nightflame often, and have excellent healing. You've got a few nice dots (especially with ultimate), and some burst every 7 seconds with Curse of Doylemish. You're getting the most out of your passives, and you have a lot of buffs and debuffs.

Oh, and by the way, that's only one bar... you still have a backbar that you can load up another 5 skills and ultimate. Enjoy

Edit: sorry, I totally forgot about the craftable only part. Maybe you could consider this later on. Bahraha's Curse is pretty easy to get. You can just open up chests in overland Hew's Bane.

Just curious why go with heavy armor? And would you suggest using magic or stamina with this kinda build? Looks fun to test out on the pts

I assuming they are thinking more dps/tank hybrid kind of thing.

GrumpyDuckling · June 2018

seipher09 wrote: »

GrumpyDuckling wrote: »

@seipher09

5 pc Curse of Doylemish (heavy)
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Curse+of+Doylemish+Set
5 pc Bahraha's Curse (jewlery and weapons)
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Bahraha's+Curse+Set
2 pc Nightflame (monster set)
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Nightflame+Set

Skills
- Pierce Armor (for taunt, debuff, and to set up Curse of Doylemish)
- Low Slash (for minor maim + ultimate generation)
- Funnel Health (for heal over time + healing received + magicka passive + ultimate passive)
- Refreshing Path (for heal over time + damage + major resist buffs from passive)
- Mirage (for dodge chance + minor resist buffs)

Ultimate
- Veil of Blades (for great damage and defense)

Analysis
You will be extremely hard to kill and still have some decent damage. Between Funnel Health, Refreshing Path, and Bahraha's Curse, you will proc Nightflame often, and have excellent healing. You've got a few nice dots (especially with ultimate), and some burst every 7 seconds with Curse of Doylemish. You're getting the most out of your passives, and you have a lot of buffs and debuffs.

Oh, and by the way, that's only one bar... you still have a backbar that you can load up another 5 skills and ultimate. Enjoy

Edit: sorry, I totally forgot about the craftable only part. Maybe you could consider this later on. Bahraha's Curse is pretty easy to get. You can just open up chests in overland Hew's Bane.

Just curious why go with heavy armor? And would you suggest using magic or stamina with this kinda build? Looks fun to test out on the pts

Heavy because there are some world bosses that hit really hard, or have 3 bosses fighting together and you take a lot of damage. Heavy makes you tankier and receive more healing. I'm thinking prioritizing survival is your first step when it comes to solo-ing world bosses.

And the great thing about this build, is that you can also tank dungeons really well. You make the healer's job really easy. For that you probably could switch Curse of Doylemish out in favor of 5 Leeching Plate.