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Officially a Mag Sorc main now.

templesus
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Had to. The class is overperforming so much that there is literally no reason to play anything but it in duels, bgs and open world. I advise any other top tier pvp player do the same :smile: btw this also means i retract all my previous statements about nerfing sorc :wink:
  • Wing
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    sorcs are weak and easy to counter, just ask all the sorcs, they will tell you how weak and easy to counter they are.
    Edited by Wing on June 16, 2018 9:07PM
    ESO player since beta.
    game got too disappointing.
  • templesus
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    Wing wrote: »
    sorcs are weak and easy to counter, just ask all the sorcs, they will tell you how weak and easy to counter they are.

    Yupp! We're honestly one of the weakest classes.
  • technohic
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    I havent taken my sorc out for a while. I need to give it a shot.
  • Ankael07
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    You guys should elaborate on why exactly the class is overperforming. Otherwise you'll only look like a bunch of whiners who dont even know why their enemy is powerful
    If you want me to reply to your comment type @Ankael07 in it.
  • redshirt_49
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    Nooo sorcs are really weak, give us some more of DKs skills please. They're way too powerful! SORCS NEED MOAR BUFF!
  • Luigi_Vampa
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    neat
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  • Abysswarrior45
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    Ankael07 wrote: »
    You guys should elaborate on why exactly the class is overperforming. Otherwise you'll only look like a bunch of whiners who dont even know why their enemy is powerful

    rune cage. enough said.
  • technohic
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    Ankael07 wrote: »
    You guys should elaborate on why exactly the class is overperforming. Otherwise you'll only look like a bunch of whiners who dont even know why their enemy is powerful

    Im still not sure. Its tough to fight some, but its tough to fight good players of any class. Havent seen a lot of magplars or magwardens openworld lately though. And stamdks. Shoot. Last night on shor when fighting died down, I had 19 out of 20 templar quest and it took me over an hour to find one as it had to be when in a XvX situation to where there would be a dedicated healer.

    Years ago; I recall seeing everyone and their brothers with their sorc 1 v x video. Thats when it gets pretty obvious.
  • Emma_Overload
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    Wing wrote: »
    sorcs are weak and easy to counter, just ask all the sorcs, they will tell you how weak and easy to counter they are.

    Thank you for this breath of fresh air and for saving me from having to post something similar!
    #CAREBEARMASTERRACE
  • Asmael
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    *Equips Shieldbreaker and Sload*
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  • templesus
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    Mag sorc is balanced. Does not need nerfs.
  • Heka Cain
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    Oh do pipe down!
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    Ankael07 wrote: »
    You guys should elaborate on why exactly the class is overperforming. Otherwise you'll only look like a bunch of whiners who dont even know why their enemy is powerful

    rune cage. enough said.

    Rune Cage only seems overpowered to players to who are used to blocking or roll dodging their way out of trouble. Sorcs hardly get to do either of those things, so Rune Cage doesn't seem much different than other CCs to us.
    #CAREBEARMASTERRACE
  • Strider__Roshin
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    Yeah there's a buddy of mine that I knew from Destiny 2 that picked up this game a couple months back. First he started with a stamblade and he was enjoying it for a while, but he was never doing all that hot; typically averaged 2-6 kills and 6-12 deaths in BGs. Then he leveled up a stam sorc, and he hated it. Next he leveled up a stamplar, and he was having a blast! Gave him a lore friendly name, and spent a lot of gold to get the motifs he wanted to look the part of his RP character. Unfortunately he still wasn't doing all that great which is understandable because he's still fairly new at the game. Heck I think two days ago I had to remind him that Major Resolve does not stack with Major Resolve lol. So anyways he was doing better than his stamblade with his stamplar, but he was still in the negative consistently.

    Well he decided less than a week ago to level up a magsorc since he noticed quite easily how OP they are, and man is he having a good time. Ever since he leveled up his sorc he has been consistently in the positive, and not just in the positive but we're talking about getting 20+ kills a match on average. He loves how tanky he is and how brutal the Rune Cage + Frags + Curse + Endless Fury combination is.

    He knows he's being carried by the class's OP damage and survivability, and it honestly irritates me that this is their current state.

    Does it but bother the magsorcs out there knowing how cheesey it is to play your class? Wouldn't you want some pride in performing well? Hopefully they make magsorcs more skill based in the future rather than handing them victory with minimal effort.
  • DuskMarine
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    Wing wrote: »
    sorcs are weak and easy to counter, just ask all the sorcs, they will tell you how weak and easy to counter they are.

    in bgs i litterally can kill someone with force pulse in a couple blasts.........sorcs are strong very very very strong
  • templesus
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    DuskMarine wrote: »
    Wing wrote: »
    sorcs are weak and easy to counter, just ask all the sorcs, they will tell you how weak and easy to counter they are.

    in bgs i litterally can kill someone with force pulse in a couple blasts.........sorcs are strong very very very strong

    wrong...it takes skill to effectively execute sorc burst...especially against good players
  • DuskMarine
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    templesus wrote: »
    DuskMarine wrote: »
    Wing wrote: »
    sorcs are weak and easy to counter, just ask all the sorcs, they will tell you how weak and easy to counter they are.

    in bgs i litterally can kill someone with force pulse in a couple blasts.........sorcs are strong very very very strong

    wrong...it takes skill to effectively execute sorc burst...especially against good players

    wrong. shield force pulse/mages fury spam, throw a proc=win sorcs are the easy mode this game has cause their rediculously better than any other class.
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    On the same set up I still get way more damage, more survivability and straight up insane sustain on my MagBlade. I used to main a sorc, then I took MagBlade to the knee :smile:
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  • templesus
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    DuskMarine wrote: »
    templesus wrote: »
    DuskMarine wrote: »
    Wing wrote: »
    sorcs are weak and easy to counter, just ask all the sorcs, they will tell you how weak and easy to counter they are.

    in bgs i litterally can kill someone with force pulse in a couple blasts.........sorcs are strong very very very strong

    wrong...it takes skill to effectively execute sorc burst...especially against good players

    wrong. shield force pulse/mages fury spam, throw a proc=win sorcs are the easy mode this game has cause their rediculously better than any other class.

    nuh uh look at stam nb they have everything, classes based minor maim minor berserk best aoe cc and incap which increases their damage by 20% and defiles..they are clearly the best class mag sorc isnt that good
  • Strider__Roshin
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    templesus wrote: »
    DuskMarine wrote: »
    Wing wrote: »
    sorcs are weak and easy to counter, just ask all the sorcs, they will tell you how weak and easy to counter they are.

    in bgs i litterally can kill someone with force pulse in a couple blasts.........sorcs are strong very very very strong

    wrong...it takes skill to effectively execute sorc burst...especially against good players

    By skill do you mean "Rune Cage"?
  • DuskMarine
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    templesus wrote: »
    DuskMarine wrote: »
    templesus wrote: »
    DuskMarine wrote: »
    Wing wrote: »
    sorcs are weak and easy to counter, just ask all the sorcs, they will tell you how weak and easy to counter they are.

    in bgs i litterally can kill someone with force pulse in a couple blasts.........sorcs are strong very very very strong

    wrong...it takes skill to effectively execute sorc burst...especially against good players

    wrong. shield force pulse/mages fury spam, throw a proc=win sorcs are the easy mode this game has cause their rediculously better than any other class.

    nuh uh look at stam nb they have everything, classes based minor maim minor berserk best aoe cc and incap which increases their damage by 20% and defiles..they are clearly the best class mag sorc isnt that good

    nope nightblades you do have the chance of if a dk catches you you die. a sorc your litterally a walking middle finger to everyone.
  • generalmyrick
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    templesus wrote: »
    Had to. The class is overperforming so much that there is literally no reason to play anything but it in duels, bgs and open world. I advise any other top tier pvp player do the same :smile: btw this also means i retract all my previous statements about nerfing sorc :wink:

    and nerf sloads right? because it goes through those shields! :-)
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  • WreckfulAbandon
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    Mageblade is magsorc's kryptonite but most ppl aren't good enough on mageblade to see these results. Mageblade has great burst and the best fight control in the game. As good as Rune Cage is, a mageblade can usually mess up the sorc combo and ensure they won't take all of it to the face. Through misdirection and well timed CC's. Cloaking LA/HA and frags is great too. They'll eat pieces of the combo here and there but the full one should be hard to perform against a good mageblade. Much harder than the mageblade hitting them unshielded with a bow proc. Which is an interesting paradox since sorc is much easier to play in general than mageblade.
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    Your average sorc is balanced.
    The usual 1vX sorc is pretty balanced compared to something like an NB, or a stamden.

    However:
    • Shields 1v1 aren't, wayy to much tankiness with little sacrifice, and the counters are either too hard, or non existent. (This can be seen by MDK's running 1 shield and it being better than a fully built into block)
    • Runecage isn't. (Remove frag stun, then make everything hit guaranteed, whilst also *** over DKs, genius,)
    • Overload gank builds aren't.
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    This sorc' is now a stamplar main
    Minalan owes me a beer.

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    Biro123 wrote: »
    This sorc' is now a stamplar main

    1v1?
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    templesus wrote: »
    DuskMarine wrote: »
    Wing wrote: »
    sorcs are weak and easy to counter, just ask all the sorcs, they will tell you how weak and easy to counter they are.

    in bgs i litterally can kill someone with force pulse in a couple blasts.........sorcs are strong very very very strong

    wrong...it takes skill to effectively execute sorc burst...especially against good players

    Sure. But that skill is less than any other class’s burst combo.

    I am loving hoppin around on my mag sorc. Reminds me of the times pre-crystal frag nerf.

    It’s an easy class to play effectively in pug / casual situations, but an extremely difficult class to play in GvG / 4vX situations / organized small scale. Anyone who says otherwise has no real basis for comparison.
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  • pod88kk
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    Nurf dur surcs
  • Kikke
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    You know, when we sorcs complain about other classes, we usally complain about one or two abilities, or a combo of gear and abilities.

    Now! all you 'nerf sorc' people just say that.. 'Nerf Sorc'..

    How can you think zeni will do ANYTHING if all you say is 'nerf sorc'?
    Give us a reason too nerf anything! Why is sorc overperforming in your mind?

    Two things ANY sorc will agree with:
    1: Rune cage end dmg is overperforming (and the fact that we finaly have a block/dodgeroll stopping CC is NOT)
    2: Overload CAN be build into a gank build, but what people do forget is this setup will ONLY do strong overloads. rest is CRAP!

    So I'l turn this thread around and say:

    #NerfMagBlades!
    #NerfStamBlades!

    Because these entire playstyles / classbuilds are OVERPERFORMING and should be NERFED! PvP and PvE!

    - Incap OP
    - PvE DPS OP
    - New shade OP
    - Cloak OP

    Thanks you, goodbye.
    Edited by Kikke on June 16, 2018 11:04PM
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  • Vanzen
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    8 Sorc out of 12 in my last BG.

    This is ruining BG at high speed.

    Before last patch it was 8 NB ...

    I dont know what I prefer ...
    Edited by Vanzen on June 16, 2018 11:07PM
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